Guys....what the hell happened to the warrior??
Nowdays it is only for showing it's cool armor, but it has no use in farming...so it is a completly trash...
Please anet guys do something with the class.
Thanks
Warrior NERF
Dellight
Anti Oath
If you're talking about the +25 armor cap, its not even implemented yet...
Dellight
I'm talking about this:
-No farming builds for W
-Teams don't need W anymore
-W=a big trash...i have one for about a year..it is maxed out(i mean nf endgame armor ids+perfekt zodiac shield) but no one needs it because they say that warrior sucks and they recommend me to delete it and make a new char >.>
-No farming builds for W
-Teams don't need W anymore
-W=a big trash...i have one for about a year..it is maxed out(i mean nf endgame armor ids+perfekt zodiac shield) but no one needs it because they say that warrior sucks and they recommend me to delete it and make a new char >.>
Does-it-Matter
Because the overall use of a Profession is, of course, determined by its farming ability...
This change ONLY... ONLY... ONLY affects you IF you have more than one armor buff.... That's it! If you only have one, it still works the way it did before. The only difference now is multiple armor can only stack to a maximum of 25.
I've beaten all three campaigns with a warrior with only one armor buff. So it still has its same role as it does before.
For the SUPER DUPER HIGH END LEET farming stuff? *shrug* Oh well... Welcome to the Community-Induced Build Wars. Its the same people who gave you the "Holy Trinity of RPGs only," who said that two monks were required for a group, mesmer what?, etc. Most of the other Professions and the majority of builds are already "excluded" from this.
The basics of it are this... a warrior has a base of 80 AL and +20 AL against physical. An Elementalist has 60 AL. A Dervish has 70 AL. A Paragon has 80 AL. If we look at just the basics of it, warriors still have the highest armor.
This change ONLY... ONLY... ONLY affects you IF you have more than one armor buff.... That's it! If you only have one, it still works the way it did before. The only difference now is multiple armor can only stack to a maximum of 25.
I've beaten all three campaigns with a warrior with only one armor buff. So it still has its same role as it does before.
For the SUPER DUPER HIGH END LEET farming stuff? *shrug* Oh well... Welcome to the Community-Induced Build Wars. Its the same people who gave you the "Holy Trinity of RPGs only," who said that two monks were required for a group, mesmer what?, etc. Most of the other Professions and the majority of builds are already "excluded" from this.
The basics of it are this... a warrior has a base of 80 AL and +20 AL against physical. An Elementalist has 60 AL. A Dervish has 70 AL. A Paragon has 80 AL. If we look at just the basics of it, warriors still have the highest armor.
Dellight
But why the hell the teams(parties) inogre the warriors?
Water Angel
and becaue you get in wrong groups.
and because koss>you
warriors can still farm btw, look wiki or game amps.
just warrior became more usefull in some specific areas now than geenrally.
and because koss>you
warriors can still farm btw, look wiki or game amps.
just warrior became more usefull in some specific areas now than geenrally.
Patrick Smit
i always use a physical team with heroes, me, 2 w's, and a para, then preferably devona 2 healer hench and x (x = often the earth or para hench). Sometimes i switch a war for a BHA ranger.
Dellight
Koss is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO
daraaksii
You can't play a warrior, that's all.
Off: Látszik magyar vagy.
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Dellight
btw what happened to the heroes? tahlorka can't bond be..i think it sucks that is why i want to go with a team:\
Dellight
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You can't play a warrior, that's all.
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Deathly_Overlord
Ha, why does nobody want warriors...
* Warrior is the n00b Proffesion. People who are starting off generally tend to pick warrior...
* 9/10 people who play warrior are absolute idiots, who do their best to agro as much as possible and generaly tend to think there character is better than any other and invicible...
*The max amount of warriors you ever need in a group is 2, any more and your asking for trouble
Im not saying that warriors are crap, just that most are
* Warrior is the n00b Proffesion. People who are starting off generally tend to pick warrior...
* 9/10 people who play warrior are absolute idiots, who do their best to agro as much as possible and generaly tend to think there character is better than any other and invicible...
*The max amount of warriors you ever need in a group is 2, any more and your asking for trouble
Im not saying that warriors are crap, just that most are
Dellight
loook...i played wow, i was a main tank in a good guild, we did karazhan
I can tank in gw too but actually no one party needs me...>.>
I can tank in gw too but actually no one party needs me...>.>
Deathly_Overlord
BLASPHEMER! Warriors are just too common these days... WoW is a Lot different to GW yuh'know 
Since the introduction of heros, people have stopped " PUG'ing", and have henched everything. A hench tank, with the skills you choose and the weapons and armour you want, seems a better choice than a random person, who has probably got a skill bar full up of Signets of capture
Dellight
lol....true...that is why koss and his friends are need to be deleted xD
Dellight
But my skillbar is not full of with SoC
JeniM
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Ha, why does nobody want warriors...
* Warrior is the n00b Proffesion. People who are starting off generally tend to pick warrior... * 9/10 people who play warrior are absolute idiots, who do their best to agro as much as possible and generaly tend to think there character is better than any other and invicible... *The max amount of warriors you ever need in a group is 2, any more and your asking for trouble Im not saying that warriors are crap, just that most are |
I also think warrior is the hardest of the melee professions as they have less or different deffence style to the other 2 melee classes
Sin's (or cowards as i call them) use shadow step to run away (constantly)
Dervs have mystic shields and regen and are strong vs conditions
Warriors have Tactics and strength skills but not many
Warriors are ment to take the first wave of aggro and the bulk of the damage for it and this armor cap will be the death of my warrior which means i lost the only class i enjoy using
As i am a single char person i have spent most of my play time on my warrior and if she gets nerfed i wasted 600hours over the last 6months (from /age) and may quit playing as this is the class i enjoy weather you people call it the "n00b class" or not
Also i have wish Anet would tell us which proffesions they intend to kill off infavor of their favorites (Dervishes) before we invest time in them
So theres a suggestion for GW2 - in the booklet that comes with it please tell us which proffesions and races you will kill so we can all be the one you like (in GW1 Dervs)
Deathly_Overlord
And have to PUG with a load of Mending wammos and crappy monks?1?!!?!
I think not !!!:P I would be serverely p'd of if my heros where taken away from me :P
I think not !!!:P I would be serverely p'd of if my heros where taken away from me :P
Dellight
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(please Anet don't implement that armor cap or you will seal warriors out of the deep and DoA, some of the last high level areas they are wanted)
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Deathly_Overlord
To jenim:
Well, i feel sorry if you are one of the few people who actually are good at the class, it has been ruined by the amount of rude people who play it.
Im with you on the " Kill of dervish" theme there Dervish are wayyy anoying and Mystic regen BADLY needs a nerf. 
Well, i feel sorry if you are one of the few people who actually are good at the class, it has been ruined by the amount of rude people who play it.
Im with you on the " Kill of dervish" theme there
Dervish are wayyy anoying and Mystic regen BADLY needs a nerf.
Dellight
Warrior=large amount of armor....that is why it is a tank class..if they give it 20 armor they will crash the whole class into the hell(i mean W will be the worst class:s)
Dellight
Btw W is my favorite class...but i don't know why anet is doing this freakin thingy with them
JeniM
Anet just hate warrior
I Is Special
I have no idea how people can pug and possibly have a Mending/HH/Healing breeze whammo in their group. WHY dont you take advantage of the "Billy Bob's Skills are xxxxxxxx"? The few times i do pug, i always ask almost everyone to say their builds, thusly i never get any noob/retarded builds in my team. And anyway, out of about a year of playing, I have only seen about 3 whammos with mending and healing hands/breeze in higher end PVE--I've seen many more of these whammos in PVP.
Thusly, it is almost your fault too for having this kind of whammo in your pug
Thusly, it is almost your fault too for having this kind of whammo in your pug
Dellight
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Originally Posted by JeniM
Anet just hate warrior
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Pericles
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Originally Posted by Dellight
Koss is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO
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Koss is better than u.
Mister Overhill
I have seen and been in many, many groups advertising for a tank (or two), and I've observed the class played poorly, well, and in-between. Warriors certainly have their place -- there just seems to be too many to go around.
Dellight
All i can say is lol...
My skills are all warrior skills and my only monk skill is the ressurrect
My skills are all warrior skills and my only monk skill is the ressurrect
Dellight
Koss isn't better than me..koss is only an NPC..he can't really aggro...and he sux i think..that is why i don't use him
RaginAsian
Where did you get the idea that warriors are going to have -20 armor? The change they plan on implementing is a +25 armor cap from skills. This means the warrior will still have its 80 base armor and inherent +20 versus physical. Armor from shields and weapon modifiers also doesn't count toward the cap, so unless I'm retarded, a warrior with a shield can still have 141 armor versus physical damage(100 base + 16 from a shield + 25 extra armor from skills like watch yourself). If you have high strength and use the insignia with +20 vs elemental then you can have 141 armor versus any kind of damage which is higher than any other class in the game. So in conclusion, warriors will still be used as tanks where tanks are needed.
Oh and what ever happened to people using warriors to kill stuff in parties instead of just being tanks?
Oh and what ever happened to people using warriors to kill stuff in parties instead of just being tanks?
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Deathly_Overlord
Ha, why does nobody want warriors...
* Warrior is the n00b Proffesion. People who are starting off generally tend to pick warrior... * 9/10 people who play warrior are absolute idiots, who do their best to agro as much as possible and generaly tend to think there character is better than any other and invicible... *The max amount of warriors you ever need in a group is 2, any more and your asking for trouble Im not saying that warriors are crap, just that most are |
JeniM
Well whats the ratio of damage when you compare a warrior to an ele?
Thats why warriors tank
Mind you my star burst can still kick butt
Thats why warriors tank
Mind you my star burst can still kick butt
Thomas.knbk
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Originally Posted by Water Angel
koss>you
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The 'armor crap' as you call it, is implemented because paragons run around in groups stacking their armor up to the mid 140's, making them nigh invincible to anything that's not armor ignoring. This build is so overpowered that a team like [meow] got to rank 11 with it. Go think of that. Don't say it can be countered. Apart from the fact that that is totally irrelevant, the only hard counter to shouts is a hex with a 20 second recharge time, and the paragon build we're talking about has two copies of expel hexes.
Warriors still have the highest unconditional DPS in the game in the least skill slots (yeah thats right, higher than eles). They can pack a shitload of utility in the rest of their skill slots on top of that. This 'nerf' will probably make it harder to tank, but please don't say warriors are useless.
Does-it-Matter
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Originally Posted by RaginAsian
Where did you get the idea that warriors are going to have -20 armor? The change they plan on implementing is a +25 armor cap from skills. This means the warrior will still have its 80 base armor and inherent +20 versus physical. Armor from shields and weapon modifiers also doesn't count toward the cap, so unless I'm retarded, a warrior with a shield can still have 141 armor versus physical damage(100 base + 16 from a shield + 25 extra armor from skills like watch yourself). If you have high strength and use the insignia with +20 vs elemental then you can have 141 armor versus any kind of damage which is higher than any other class in the game. So in conclusion, warriors will still be used as tanks where tanks are needed.
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Like I've been saying, if you only have ONE armor buff, you are not affected.
wetsparks
What happened to stances to avoid attacks? It doesn't matter how much armor you have against physical a miss still equals zero damage. Yes I know they got nerfed pretty bad a while back but you still can make a stance tank, it just requires more skills than before.
bleh
warroirs are still great for farming i use mine way more often than trapper and 55 monk its simply more fun they can take almost any melee boss and if u use vengefull was khanai any ranged group thet doesnt heal ;p
as for usefullness in team my view is that warrs are not damage dealers but usefull for applying snares and keeping high damage enemies occupied (ie Tanking) you need a tank in groups because otherwise everyone will spend all the time "kiting" i find adren based builds with life bond or succor on monks are a big help to the team ( in low strip areas )
warr hasnt been nerfed just change your damn tactics ^^ once in a while pure damage warroir isnt always the way
as for usefullness in team my view is that warrs are not damage dealers but usefull for applying snares and keeping high damage enemies occupied (ie Tanking) you need a tank in groups because otherwise everyone will spend all the time "kiting" i find adren based builds with life bond or succor on monks are a big help to the team ( in low strip areas )
warr hasnt been nerfed just change your damn tactics ^^ once in a while pure damage warroir isnt always the way
VitisVinifera
in regards to warriors have no farming builds left, this is simply ridiculous.
W/Rit vengeful smite farmer solo = all the ectos you want, and lots of good golds
W/x ausipicious riposter = can solo almost every war/sin/derv boss in the game, if you want to farm greens
W/N grenths = can solo many other bosses for their greens
W/Rit vengeful smite farmer solo = all the ectos you want, and lots of good golds
W/x ausipicious riposter = can solo almost every war/sin/derv boss in the game, if you want to farm greens
W/N grenths = can solo many other bosses for their greens
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Dellight
loook...i played wow, i was a main tank in a good guild, we did karazhan
I can tank in gw too but actually no one party needs me...>.> |
God Apprentice
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Originally Posted by Dellight
Koss is a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO I've never understood this joke, some1 plz explain it to me, (im new on the forums). As for the thread, i agree: Koss is better than u. |
Example: Koss is such a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing noob.
ss1986v2
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
theres your problem, you think you are playing WoW. you are not a tank if you are a warrior. you are a DPS machine.
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we have a winner. just cant believe it took this long for someone to post it.