Warrior NERF

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

see it as an opportunity to stop simply standing around taking a beating and start doing what you're supposed to do : kill stuff.

I've never ever used any armor buff for playing in groups, groups that "need tanks" are not worth grouping with anyway. Surely you can bodyblock some foes, but chances are stuff will slip by. Casters should learn to kite instead of constantly whining about needing tanks.

The Bard

The Bard

Metal Machine

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

good warriors don't pug alot, since everyone thinks that you're gonna cast mending on yourself and aggro everything it's hard to get a normal pug even if you wanted to
good warriors play with heroes/hench or guilds, that's why you never see them in pugs and they get a bad reputation >___>

and yes, this isn't wow, tanking doesn't work the same in this game, warriors are for damage. there's no reason to pack 5 armor buffs on a war. besides the armor stacking change most likely isn't meant to hurt warriors but the E/D earth tanks all over.


btw dellight, stop double posting.....

Gemini Knight Juno

Gemini Knight Juno

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ascalon

Guardians of Lothlorien Realm [LOTR]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Hmmm, seems like the description I would give to the Assassin profession.
Right on, if any profession is a noob profession it is the Assassin.... shadow step here and there, cheap attack, run away.

Its sad and wrong that Warriors have such a bad name, especially W/Mo. I have two W/Mo characters (yeah I really do don't ask) and against lvl 28 demons in the Realm of Torment my Warriors have struck for 250+ damage using skills such as Final Thrust with a rank of 16 in swordsmanship (its just a matter of time before they nerf Final Thrust, mark my words).

Of all professions to nerf, why the Warrior, when Assassins and Dervish run wild? If I remember correctly aren't they going to actually buff the Assassin with reduced energy costs? That's ridiculous.

shooshang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Heaven's Exiled

W/

lol i'd rather just run around with heroes in PvE anyway I find heroes + hench a lot better than most formed groups .... as for the nerf .. sure its a bit sad but hey find a way around it ... we find ways around a lot of other nerfs. Assassins and Dervishes aren't too far off a good nerfing ...

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

"what the hell happened to the warrior"

if you think that a class is useless becuase it cannot solo farm something then u are retarded. That is exactly what anet is trying to prevent. Anybody that says warriors are useless has no idea how to play any profession in the game correctly.

and quit complaining about the 25 armor cap ... god damn, it really dosent matter that much

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini Knight Juno
and against lvl 28 demons in the Realm of Torment my Warriors have struck for 250+ damage using skills such as Final Thrust with a rank of 16 in swordsmanship (its just a matter of time before they nerf Final Thrust, mark my words).
I find that really hard to believe. Screens, or it didn't happen.
And ffs it's not a warrior nerf it's a paragon nerf

Water Angel

Water Angel

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

Paris

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
And ffs it's not a warrior nerf it's a paragon nerf

wow finally someone noticed.

margretli

margretli

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/W

I can recall some amazing warriors in groups that know what to do. I have been in teams where the only character left was a warrior (with mending AND HH mind you), he manage to kill off what ever was left, and rez everyone else. Took a little bit of time, but it was better than a party wipe.

I have been in situations where the warrior held up a mob until everyone runs to a safe place, and regroup, thus saving most of the team from getting a DP. Of course in situations like that the warrior usually dies and get yelled at for dying, despise the fact that he just saved the team.

However, I have also seen w/e drop dead in the middle of casting meteor shower... The trouble is I see more warrior drop dead because of a silly reason in the middle of a battle than I see warrior saving the day. That's what is giving warriors a bad rep. Like any other class, it's the player, not the class.

Twinsoul

Twinsoul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha

Rogue Clan [Rg]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by margretli
Like any other class, it's the player, not the class.
QFT. One of my best friends in GW plays warrior as his main character, but the important thing is that he plays it well. Tanking doesn't work as well in GW as it does in WoW, because the aggro system is different; if you want to reduce damage dealt to your squishies, just body block with minions or pets, not rely on luck and a mostly useless tank. Just look at how people use warriors in high-end PvP if you want to see what warriors do best: damage.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

people that can't play a warrior talk crap, but people that do know how to play a warrior stay quite. So if u suck at play a warrior change ur profession lol.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
I find that really hard to believe. Screens, or it didn't happen.
And ffs it's not a warrior nerf it's a paragon nerf
That sounds like only a small exaggeration, if any. I've hit Demons in Call to Torment with 192+3(vamp) or 202+3(I can't remember which figure it was)with a critical Eviscerate or Executioner's Strike. Final Thrust doubles the bonus damage under 50%, and if Call doubles that bonus further, 250+ on a critical hit sounds feasible. Even more so if Sundering was used, and if it actually triggered.

On topic, this update does indeed break a few of my farming builds for my warrior, but updates are not designed with farming in mind. They are designed for game balance. I don't see any problem with playing my warrior in groups. Agonizing Chop looks like fun.

Free Wind

Free Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Moscow

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
I find that really hard to believe. Screens, or it didn't happen.
And ffs it's not a warrior nerf it's a paragon nerf
most probably was during Call to Torment

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

As there is no real question and as this is just basically a whine thread..

Thread closed.