You would think - an arrow through your sword arm would Weaken you, wouldn't you? Or an arrow through your neck or an artery would count as a Deep Wound?
I'd like to see a bow attack that can cause Weakness - either as a % chance, or by meeting some condition (for example only on a critical hit).
Similarly I'd like to see another bow attack that can cause a Deep Wound. Either an Elite skill, a % chance, or by meeting some condition (for example, on a critical hit, or half normal range)
These could come as changes to existing (but little-used) bow attacks, or entirely new skills.
I don't think being able to inflict these conditions from a distance is a balance issue, since Necros and Ele's already have spells to inflict Weakness, and Paragon spear attacks and Mesmer spells can inflict Deep Wound. But maybe balance could be affected in other ways I didn't think of.
Rangers are never going to get uber damage on their bow attacks, other professions are more suited to high damage attacks, and I think that's right. Rangers are good at spreading conditions and I think that's right too - but it just seems illogical they can't inflict Weakness or Deep Wound.
Create Ranger bow attacks that cause Weakness and Deep Wound
Riot Narita
MagmaRed
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Bow attacks already offer a lot of options, and Deep Wound and Weakness are not needed. Lots of other classes can cause those, we don't need ALL classes to cause them.
May as well add in bow attacks to:
Cause Blindness
End stances
Cause Disease
Remove conditions from yourself
Remove hexes from yourself
Secondary class options allow you to do what you want, usually with little or no attribute investment.
Bow attacks already offer a lot of options, and Deep Wound and Weakness are not needed. Lots of other classes can cause those, we don't need ALL classes to cause them.
May as well add in bow attacks to:
Cause Blindness
End stances
Cause Disease
Remove conditions from yourself
Remove hexes from yourself
Secondary class options allow you to do what you want, usually with little or no attribute investment.
Riot Narita
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May as well add in bow attacks to:
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MagmaRed
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Secondary class options allow you to do what you want, usually with little or no attribute investment.
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ZenRgy
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Rangers are never going to get uber damage on their bow attacks
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BDZeres
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If you want those conditions use a secondary.
If you want those conditions use a secondary.
Master Ketsu
I wouldnt mind it, but to balance out the fact that rangers normally cant cause deep wound and weakness I think any skill created for them to do such a thing should be drastically inferior to other classes deep wound skills. But then whats the point ?
Kidney Shot { Elite }
15E
12R
Elite bow attack. If this attack hits, you strike for +5...27 Damage. If this strikes a foe that is using an attack skill or casting a spell, then you inflict a deep wound for 1...10 seconds.
/halfsigned
Kidney Shot { Elite }
15E
12R
Elite bow attack. If this attack hits, you strike for +5...27 Damage. If this strikes a foe that is using an attack skill or casting a spell, then you inflict a deep wound for 1...10 seconds.
/halfsigned
Ecklipze
Give Warriors the ability to Poison while you're at it too 
But seriously,
And that's exactly why they should not be able to. No other class can afflict mass conditions as easily as a Ranger: mass poison, mass cripple, and mass bleeding. Not to mention the daze and burning that can be applied rather frequently as well. There is no need to throw any more conditions into that mix.
But seriously,
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Rangers are good at spreading conditions and I think that's right too - but it just seems illogical they can't inflict Weakness or Deep Wound.
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Thomas.knbk
buff ranger spike more please.
lyra_song
ive always wanted long distance blinding:
Dust Arrow - Elite - 10 energy -20 recharge - Elite Bow Attack. This attack does +____ damage. If this attack hits, your target becomes blinded for _______.
But deep wound is just too powerful. Youd have to make it a VERY VERYconditional skill.
Dust Arrow - Elite - 10 energy -20 recharge - Elite Bow Attack. This attack does +____ damage. If this attack hits, your target becomes blinded for _______.
But deep wound is just too powerful. Youd have to make it a VERY VERYconditional skill.
Ecklipze
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ive always wanted long distance blinding:
Dust Arrow - Elite - 10 energy -20 recharge - Elite Bow Attack. This attack does +____ damage. If this attack hits, your target becomes blinded for _______. But deep wound is just too powerful. Youd have to make it a VERY VERYconditional skill. |
Hyper Cutter
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May as well add in bow attacks to:
End stances |
Kale Ironfist
The whole point of Rangers isn't for their damage, hence why they aren't able to inherently remove stances. Warriors are DPS and spike machines, Assassins are spikers, Paragons have DPS on par with Warriors.
Rangers are meant for their degenerative condition spreading. While weakness may be a viable condition to add to their arsenal, Deep Wound is not.
Rangers are meant for their degenerative condition spreading. While weakness may be a viable condition to add to their arsenal, Deep Wound is not.
HawkofStorms
Deep wound inflicted from longbow range? Yeah, that's what I want to face in PvP, being dead before I'm even in range to attack the enemy team. /sarcasm
/notsigned, it goes against the design/balance of the ranger
/notsigned, it goes against the design/balance of the ranger
-Loki-
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ive always wanted long distance blinding:
Dust Arrow - Elite - 10 energy -20 recharge - Elite Bow Attack. This attack does +____ damage. If this attack hits, your target becomes blinded for _______. |
Rhia Aryx
Rangers are intended for pressure, not for single-handed kills as warriors are. Weakness... I could understand that. But I would say no to deep wound. Yes paragons have deep wound capability, but they also use a spear rather than an arrow.
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Abedeus
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Even if ranger is my primary character... No. Ranger doesn't need to inflict all conditions that exist. Paragon dont have a Disease/Poison/Blind, Assassin's dont have disease or burning, warrior's dont have Poison/Disease/Dazed/Burning. There is no class that CAN do every condition. And there shouldn't be.
Even if ranger is my primary character... No. Ranger doesn't need to inflict all conditions that exist. Paragon dont have a Disease/Poison/Blind, Assassin's dont have disease or burning, warrior's dont have Poison/Disease/Dazed/Burning. There is no class that CAN do every condition. And there shouldn't be.
My Sweet Revenga
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Bow attacks already offer a lot of options, and Deep Wound and Weakness are not needed. Lots of other classes can cause those, we don't need ALL classes to cause them. May as well add in bow attacks to: Cause Blindness End stances Cause Disease Remove conditions from yourself Remove hexes from yourself Secondary class options allow you to do what you want, usually with little or no attribute investment. |
Green Arrow FTW, we need more trick arrows
The Lurch
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Even if ranger is my primary character... No. Ranger doesn't need to inflict all conditions that exist. Paragon dont have a Disease/Poison/Blind, Assassin's dont have disease or burning, warrior's dont have Poison/Disease/Dazed/Burning. There is no class that CAN do every condition. And there shouldn't be. |
Uhhh, Skull Crack?
MithranArkanere
It's too late all skills are already added, but they could turn already existing Spear attacks into Ranged Attacks.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10191432
Or they could change the functionality of any current skill. But Rangers already have degens and Dazing. That's more than enough, don't you think?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10191432
Or they could change the functionality of any current skill. But Rangers already have degens and Dazing. That's more than enough, don't you think?
Series
rangers have more conditions then most physical professions.
Hyper Cutter
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Uhhh, Skull Crack?
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And wow, old topic...
draxynnic
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[card]Ebon Dust Aura[/card]
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Going on the original topic... how about [card]"Find Their Weakness!"[/card]+[card]"Go for the Eyes!"[/card]? If you time it well, you could add [card]Keen Arrow[/card] to add insult to injury.
Darkhell153
/not signed (and I have a lot of ranger characters)
I'd rather not get killed before I even get to attack once.
I'd rather not get killed before I even get to attack once.
Riot Narita
Wow. Old topic resurrected. I was only ever thinking of PvE, not PvP... and as it happens, it looks like GW:EN gives me what I wanted, although not in the form of bow attacks. There are PvE-only skills that ANY class can use to inflict Weakness (AoE) and Deep Wound (if target health<50%).
Two Norn shouts: "You are all weaklings!" and "Finish Him!"...
Two Norn shouts: "You are all weaklings!" and "Finish Him!"...
cataphract
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May as well add in bow attacks to:
Cause Blindness End stances Cause Disease Remove conditions from yourself Remove hexes from yourself |
I hope they make rangers in GW2 more realistic. Inability to cause deep wound and knockdown and the fact that they don't run faster than heavy-armored warriors has turned rangers into tree-hugging hippies. More realistic physics in GW2, please.
Hawkeye
Dazed is one of the better conditions out there. I dare say it is better than deep wound, since you've pretty much disabled spellcasters right there...
If you want damage, be a nuker. Rangers aren't centered around damage dealing.
If you want damage, be a nuker. Rangers aren't centered around damage dealing.