Zero tolerance on flaming?

Quote: Originally Posted by jrk247

Quote: Posting this thread here was actually a bad idea, here we only get responses from the truly dedicated ones and the admins. May I request to re-post in Sardelac or the Riverside in? Alternatively, I'd wish that you all made a public announcement in all threads stating that flaming will result in bans.
Uhm, bump? Am I allowed to do this or not? since anyone hardly reads these forums...

Quote: Originally Posted by jrk247

Quote: Originally Posted by Wyat Hawke

Quote: May I request to re-post in Sardelac or the Riverside inn? My question still stands. Can I do this, to get more responses (from those who don't bother reading this forum section)?

Wyat, you want a discussion on flaming in a forum that is supposed to be dealing with Guild Wars game issue and discussion. I understand the point of a discussion with the community but moving this into a forum supposed to be about Guild Warswould only generate the same complaints that you were speaking out against. This is a site issue. One of your first responses would be "great, another thread complaining about the complainers". A discussion on flaming would yield nothing more then... flames. We are trying to keep flames down, non-contributing negativity, one-liner spam, flamebait but a discussion with the community on this isn't an educational process that would be providing enlightenment for anyone. Most who are flaming know full well what they are doing, will defend it to the death, and are of the opinion matter that it's deserved/necessary/ or defensive.

Quote: Originally Posted by Avarre

I think the moderating on guru is fine, theres too many carebear forums like GWOnline that delete and edit every post that doesnt end in " <3 GAILE PWNS "

might i suggest the the report abuse icon be a bit larger with the words "Report Abuse"? i think many ppl don't know that that function exist of forget about it when they want to report a violation simply because it is not big enough.

The report button can't be modified, it is part of the forum software.

Actually, it's just a graphic. It can indeed be modified, enlarged, changed, even text added. We'd have to find a good way to do this though as we don't want column widths or lengths thrown off by it.

i think warnings should be giving out before a ban unless the violation was completely abusive. like cursing or name calling. real life threats should also result in a permanent ban.

if someone words their reply in a way that seems rude "Flamish" they should be contacted by a mod telling them to amend their post so it does not provoke flaming or hurt feelings. this would allow those of us who accidently word something wrong to go back and fix it. a Friendly Reminder can help alot, and will stick with us and make us members appreciate the understanding of the community. some times we just make mistakes, not all of us are rude on purpose.

I believe everything Wyat Hawke has said, especially the intro post to be common sence. as a child i was taught to respect others and treat them as i want to be treated, but that seems to not matter when dealing with online games in general. which makes me sad because we could prosper so much more as a community and as indaviduals if we just worked together instead of soley for ourselves.

I also support Mini Bans and Long Term Bans when dealing with abusive members. if someone makes a mistake, dont ban them, teach them not to do it again, and if they value their participation with this site they will stop.
I also believe and understand that it is up to the members to assist the mods/admins in keeping our community clean and stable. the site isnt a requirement of the game, it is a bonus!

i would also like to add that as wonderful a feature the report button is, we should only use it when it is truely needed. (Reading Post's in a Bad Mood is never a fair way to judge the material. calm down then re-read the post before you make the call. thanks.

thanks you all for providing guildwar players like myself a place to come and share our thoughts and ideas, and to meet other players.

We usually do pm/warn for minor offenses. Temp-bans varying in length aren't used until the offender violates the rules several times.

I've a vested interest in this particular topic, as many people consider me a 'troll'. While I certainly was at some point in the past--I did receive a deserved three-month ban--I would say that I've cooled down quite a bit.

However, people still tend to point out whatever I post as 'flames', however mild it might be--I don't sugarcoat what I say like many others, and if someone's acting like an idiot, I have no qualms about calling them out on it (if the mods disagree, that's their prerogative and their site).

I'm of the opinion that the definition of a 'flame' is too broad--just disagreeing with someone isn't flaming them. Recognizing that a topic will not garner worthwhile discussion and pointing this fact out isn't flaming.

I think a good, official definition of 'flaming' is in order. But that's just me.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kakumei

What I consider a flame:

Calling people retarded, stupid, moron etc

Also such things as "this thread fails" or "the OP fails"

Anyone that can't form a proper sentence/paragraph should be sent for English lessons. I know we are a multi national forum BUT it is generally the English speakers which fail so miserably at their own language. Closing of such threads wouldn't be harsh IMO, as these threads tend to only draw out the grammar nazi's.

I'm all for people disagreeing, it makes for some entertaining reading.

I'm up for moderating in Riverside if you need a hand, as it seems a lot of the Riverside mods are less then active.

Quote: Originally Posted by Malice Black

Quote: Originally Posted by Avarre

Quote: Originally Posted by 1 up and 2 down

So could someone answer me a question please.

If you post in a forum with a subject that is relevant to that forum and something you want to discuss with others, and it contains none of the following:

1. No flaming
2. No insults
3. No trolling
4. Contains your opinions on the subject

Is it correct that because your opinion does not match the moderators opinion he should just remove the post, without explanation besides maybe calling you a scrub !

I ask this because in one of your forums this is an almost daily occurence, the situation is such that any new thread which does not match the moderators opinions is closed almost immediately, but now and again they insult those who have posted before closing, and a friend of mine was actually banned permanently for asking the moderator why his posts were deleted in a PM.

I'm asking here as I think if I approached the moderator through PM I too would be banned, if and administrator wants details I will forward them by PM.

I hope this does not get ignored as the forum in question could be so much more active if a little common sense was used.