Hard Mode Drops not Dropping

I have attempted to vankquish all of the regions in the desolation only to fail at the last boss, but one thing i noticed was that i was not getting anything related to hard mode. No golds, very poor white weapons, just a little gold. Is anyone else seeing almost no drops come down. It is like 1 in 7 baddies produces a drop (which seems right with 8 people playing), but the drops I do get are whites, and no very often is their even gold let alone gold weapons.

i got a passage scroll the first time i went to kill scar eater yesterday O.o

I suspect you are doing it with full party of heroes and henchies?

Problem is, even though gold drops are not affected by scaling, the heroes and henchies still take their share and stand a good chance of getting the gold drops.

Unfortunately, to get the real benefit of gold drops in hard mode you have to find a place to farm solo.

or team with 7 other people. you'll actually see all the drops then

First couple days of HM I was getting a lot of gold drop's and lockpicks with a full team. Since then the drops have been reduced to basically the rate of old normal mode. Maybe HM solo farming is better, but with a full group it doesn't seem worth it at all, other than for locked chests.

I think it's all a matter of luck. I just vanquished Flame Temple Corridor & Dragons Gullet with me + 5 H/H and picked up 3 golds (one a al 16 r9 max shield with the -5/20% always mod), a ranger tome, a couple of dyes, and about 4k worth of gold & misc. junk out of about 200 total enemies. Not too bad for low level areas.

I have done plenty of solo farming HM and have been pretty dissapointed with the drops so far. Only thing worth selling has come from chests.

I also believe the anti farm code is still intact. I've been playing hard mode with a full group of henchies... and my drops are horrendous. I haven't seen a gold drop in two full weeks! Majority are either gold coins or white merch crap.

Well i'm not going to point fingers or anything, but I to havn't had any luck in HM. I tried going solo as well and still nothing but white, blue, and sometimes purple merc trash. That is if they drop anything at all. The only good thing I got was a monk tome, even though it just sits in my storage.

I wasn't that lucky before hard mode either so I guess it's normal for me. Maybe now that I got the armor I want I should start investing in chest runs. Doesn't one of the titles help increase your chances for better loot? Maybe when they did that they something got screwy for people without the title. Don't know what's up.

Something just doesn't seem right about hard mode. Other than it being harder... I haven't gotten anything good out of it in terms of loot.

I used to believe that there was anti-farm in HM despite Gailes statements claiming there was not code in HM.

Lately I'm starting to believe it's just all random. There were some threads about this topic and some people compiled some nice data that showed it was random luck and no code existed. I believe this data was linked from gwonline.net.

Farming is and has always been about persistience. Don't give up just keep killing stuff and the drops will come.

TOTALLY AGREE.-

Well, I've been getting a lot more golds than usual in NM. For example, doing just the Iron Mines of Moladune bonus (no infusion) with 3 heroes, and the rest hench I got 2 gold armour drops, one from the first mob and one from the thing you have to kill for the bonus, but over the past few days, this seems to have been the trend - lots of golds, I've definately gotten more golds than dye drops over the last 3 days (2 dye, about 8-10 gold).

The place I farm solo in HM is trapping the vamps in Urgoz Warren -

I really have not seen any change since the time when the vamps were suiciding and dropping loot - the ratio of golds has been pretty much constant. Yes. there are long stretches of nothing but white. But then I will get several runs with 1-3 golds in them. Overall, the average has remained constant. So I don't think there is much of a "farming code."

However, what people forget is that the vast majority of golds aren't worth much. They don't really make up for the constant steam of white, blue and money drops from before the loot nerf - oops, I meant scaling. Yes, there is always the chance that the right one will drop with perfect stats that will make it all worth while (got a req 9 elemental sword on my third lb/ss run). But short of that golds most often provide more in salvage than they do in cash.

Fact is, if you are running a full H&H team - you will probably make more money in Normal Mode. Cash drops happen more frequently, HM is weighted toward item drops, and at least you get 1/8 of the total cash - which is better than the nothing you get when the henchies take your items.

At least that has been my experience.

I have farmed an area that has 12 easy to solo dragon moss. Usually I'll do about 10 runs, I'll be lucky to get 1 gold. Are you going to tell me that out of 120 dragon moss, IN HARD MODE, that I should only be getting one gold? I know that there's obviously probability to take into consideration, but I have been doing this for many months.

I solo the titans outside of Lions Arch and get 1-5 golds EVERY run, killing 60-80 titans in 30-40 minutes.

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I haven't HMed as much as other people but what I've seen from it drop-wise hasn't been all that great so I have little incentive to go there often.

I've been vanquishing Cantha and I've gotten plenty of good stuff so sorry.

40 minutes of solo farming for 1 gold... er... yeah thats really not quite as good as you made it out to be.

The drops are weird... a friend from DVDF gets so many elite tomes... either from enemies or chests. I generally get crap... i went through a day or 2 of been the only 1 to get Warden armours... but that seems to have stopped too now.

Eh, I get decent stuff in HM. No complaints here. No matter how many times I repeat an area, I get the same random occurrence, not diminishing returns.