Fast faction farming runs?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Since the addition of faction for killing things in areas under Kurzick/Luxon control if you get teh blessing, faction can be farmed via boss runs.

So i guess we need a thread were people can share there boss runs for faction farming.

So far the best i've found for Kurzicks.

Eternal Grove (explorable)

Clear the 3 patrols near Scar Eater, then kill the Scar Eater last in his mob, ensures max or very near max faction from the kill.

Go back down and kill the mobs there on the way to Shatterstone.

Head back along towards The Time Eater. Then go left upto Spiritgarden.

Clear the mob to the left on the way back to Jayne and the patrol that will join it. Then clear Jayne.

Head through and go left. Either go across the bridge or just go down and kill another couple of Warden mobs, the 1 on the other side of hte bridge will always charge back after a bit.

Kill Everthorn.

Can be done easily with H/H in Normal mode for about 1-1.5k faction in 10-15 minutes.
Can be done just as easily in Hard mode with a few people and heros for about 2.5k-3k faction in ~15 minutes.

Build as you'd probably guessed... multiple SF eles and an MM and any method of chaining Theres nothing to Fear.

At present our build involves 1 R/P w/ TNTF (my own build, working quite well).
SS w/ TNTF
MM
Some SF eles (heros) and a Savannah/Tenai's/Searing ele w/ Intensity
Couple of monks.

So... anyone else found some good runs for farming faction?

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

Ferndale, start from fort aspenwood gate, follow south, kill mungri + clear dredge patrols, kill ritu boss, follow east to necro and assa, make round and clear tarnok, follow south to dredge temple, clear that area, kill mesmer boss and follow the path until lutgardis. on the way you can do 2 additional quest (luxon scouts, supply lines) that'll cause some luxons to spawn. total 2k faction (without quests) on NM, takes around 40mins. (if doing HM, make sure for organised party, should bring up to 4k faction in about and hour) this run is rather for fun, as already cellardweller posted faster run in HM Arborstone.

enjoy ;]

note: 40 minutes was doing the lazy way, with lots of stops and forum browsing + typing on the net so i bet you can do it in 20 ;]

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

The real question is whether any of these can beat good-ol Lutgardis FFF. But worth looking in to definitely.

kenichiukiya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rt/

Hm someone better come up with something similar for luxon side >.<
been trying to devise a luxon faction fast farm but closest i can get is just doing the jade arena with about 475 faction points per 4 or 5 minutes. sigh...

NuclearDope

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenichiukiya
Hm someone better come up with something similar for luxon side >.<
been trying to devise a luxon faction fast farm but closest i can get is just doing the jade arena with about 475 faction points per 4 or 5 minutes. sigh... Couldn't you kill the Kappa outside Gyala then Stou Swiftscale's group?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

You need as many bosses as possible really, thats where the real faction comes from.

Quote:
The real question is whether any of these can beat good-ol Lutgardis FFF. But worth looking in to definitely. I think it might. In Hard Mode definatly. Its also slightly more active and profitable. So far its gained me 1 Vera and 1 Scar Eater outside of the merchable drops.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

As the luxon side of it goes i'd suggest Gyala or Rhea's. See if theres a good run of bosses. Gyala will prob be the best. Off the top of my head, going left taking out the few rampaging bosses in the middle first followed by the few bosses wandering the left hand side of the map might work.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
So... anyone else found some good runs for farming faction? yes


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Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Hmm, does seem worth a look. So you basically clear out the entrance then kill the 3 Gargoyle bosses on the left side...

But i think the Eternal Grove run might net more faction, course its not as doable with H/H. I would probably put it second on my list, ie, i'll go do that if Vasburg Armoury is taken over by luxons and i can only gain luxon faction from it (c*nts...).

I'll give it a go after i've done chest running.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
At present our build involves 1 R/P w/ TNTF (my own build, working quite well).
SS w/ TNTF Thanks for all the help getting paragons into pugs, ANET..

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

For luxon it might me shoken farming when its possible. But still I dont thing anything can beat lutgardis FFF's 10k per 40minute

kenichiukiya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rt/

Well I'm going to try out Gyala Hatchery Explorable now both in NM and HM and see how it turns out. as for the kappas and Stsou group...may be it's just me but they pwn my grp so badly in HM T_T well i might go try again with some other builds.

Will report back later.

EDIT: ok the Stsou group gave me about 475 faction per 4 or 5 minutes...which is bout the same as doing the jade arena. however the Gyala Explorable gave me 680 faction in 7 minutes in NM and 1520 factions in 12 minutes in HM...that includes killing 5 bosses. well i guess it's not that bad after all but the fight can get very nasty and bloody in HM.

The builds i use are:
Offensive spirit spammer (me) with TNTF
2 SF eles
1 MM
healer hench, spirit hench (he's useless), fighter hench and illusion hench

Any ideas or comments?

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

you guys remember the halycion job farm a while back? with a Mo/N using SS you can do a run in 4-5 min solo in HM, with good drops and 520 factions. i can pull 4 min runs consistantly. i'll pull a screenshot later today.

flipfly2004

flipfly2004

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

A/

whats "TNTF"?

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

There's Nothing To Fear!

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

To Flipfly....

TNTF is There's Nothing to Fear...its a new Paragon shout....go get it from Sunspear Sanctuary

Carboplatin

Carboplatin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

[PIG]

W/A

here are some screens of a run i did.
before:

after:


520points solo per 4 min + gold and drops

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro Maniak
For luxon it might me shoken farming when its possible. But still I dont thing anything can beat lutgardis FFF's 10k per 40minute The Lutgardis run gives you 400 faction. 10000 faction in 40 minutes means you finish a run in 1.6 minutes. You don't finish a run in 100 seconds. Get a real statistic.

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

100 seconds is actually pretty close, but it's more like a bit more than two minutes. If you have a door man, it saves a ton of time.

Kaitoa

Kaitoa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

Ive been doing Halcyon job as well as a Warrior (Unlimited Glads build). Was farming Golds there but now i do it for Luxon points as well. I was killing Geoffer as well (he doesnt drop Tomes very often, 1 in 20 for me).
Anyway, I thought Ide take heros henchies, kill 25 things, then Geoffer solo. Next is Sskai kill his mob and then him (need to modify build to take him solo). Go over to Halcyon job. Flag henchies away to get drops, "Finish the job" there. Killing Assasin boss solo, then finally trying to kill last mob with henchies, because there is another Warrior boss there. Should net at least 2k faction a run but need to see how long it takes.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
Thanks for all the help getting paragons into pugs, ANET.. For the record... we only play those characters because we prefer it. I brought my Para down to test out a build. It was effective enough to replace the Prot monk and we still progressed with only a few deaths (we were rushing after all).

Zeek Aran

Zeek Aran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Earth, sadly

BORK

A/

Wow, FFF is actually one minute ten seconds or so. Lutgardis ftw.

philo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
Thanks for all the help getting paragons into pugs, ANET..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
For the record... we only play those characters because we prefer it. I brought my Para down to test out a build. It was effective enough to replace the Prot monk and we still progressed with only a few deaths (we were rushing after all). I must say that I took this as an ironical remark, meaning:
"Thank you, ANet, for trying to make paragons more attractive to PuGs by implementing a new paragon skill that causes everybody and his grandmother to run P as a secondary - which still excludes paragons from PuGs."

By tying TNTF to the paragon's primary attribute, ANet corrected this mistake with last night's update, it seems


@R Langdon:
Not everybody runs screen resolutions as huge as you do, mate. Could you, in the future, please resize your screenshots before posting?

the_wind

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
The Lutgardis run gives you 400 faction. 10000 faction in 40 minutes means you finish a run in 1.6 minutes. You don't finish a run in 100 seconds. Get a real statistic. While average groups may be slower, 10000 faction in 40 minutes is not only possible, it is actually slow if you are in the right group.

http://sinsalliance.com/forums/thread/6339.aspx

My last alliance almost got it down to 1/2 an hour, and even PUGs were doing 40-45 minutes/10k faction. So far, it doesn't seem as if any of these methods, even in hard mode can match that.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

When i use heros for FFF at Lutgardis, if I want i can finish each run just under a minute. Since no one dies, I don't have to wait the ten second ressurection thing. Usually I do it in a minute.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Would anyone mind sharing their hero builds for this?

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys
When i use heros for FFF at Lutgardis, if I want i can finish each run just under a minute. Since no one dies, I don't have to wait the ten second ressurection thing. Usually I do it in a minute.
Yes i recently learned to do this with my heros and it is just perfect for a 1 minute run, saves alot of time over the boring solo or team runs!

Although, for me it's not worth it really, I only do it for when i need fast? free chunks for armor because it does get a little tedious at times i can only stand one 10k session maybe at the most.



"EDIT"
Basicaly i've been using a similar idea to this
HERE: I can vouch for this link though! Works great.

Sergeant of Marines

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by knives
Would anyone mind sharing their hero builds for this? You run 3 Heros...

I use Vekk, Melonni, and Margrid or Jin

Load them all up with Shadow Form and running skills

Veek: Shadow Form, Dash, Dark Escape, Storm Djiins Haste (stairs)
Melonni: Shadow Form, Dash, Dark Escape, Enhanced Haste or Harrier's Haste,and maybe Whirling Charge (Mushroom)
Jin: Shadow Form, Dash, Dark Escape, Dodge, Zojun's Haste (shore)

Then use 2 or 3 Henchmen: Both Warriors and (optional) the Sin (Bridge)

I also take Paragon Skills, Fall Back and Godspeed for my use to help them out...Usual run for 400 Faction takes about 50 seconds to 1 min. (Personal Best is 43 Seconds)

Hope this helps you out!