Excellent Kurzick/Luxon faction idea. Must read!

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Why Anet never thought of this already, i don't know....

Allow the bureacrat guy to accept unwanted rare items from you in return for faction points based upon the merchant value of the item (for example, if you gave him an item worth 270 gold, you'd get 27 points).

Excellent and non-compulsory gold sink.
Opens up a bigger market for ALL rare items.
Reduces grind for both the PvE and PvP crowd.

Would make a change from giving my unwanted golds to the merchant. Perhaps the idea could be extended to purples too, for which there is an almost non-existent market, but the reward for those would be much smaller but worth considering if the price was right.

No longer will you complain about getting that non-max shield you really wasn't looking forward to getting!

Tell me you like the idea!

Taiyz

Taiyz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Jet Black Wings [SnT]

A/R

I quite like this idea, actually. It feels right, as you're donating weapons and other useful items to your faction's army.

/signed

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Optional gold sink that looks like it will work - Good.
Faster way to max your characters stats - Good.

More trade in worthless golds. While its a problem with our lack of a trading system, its easily avoided. So no problem here.

Interesting idea.

/signed. Really whats the downside ?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Hm... when you bribe a Priest to gain access to a Shrine and Blessings you pay 100g and get 10 points... so instead of giving items, you could just give them gold.

It won't be crazy to let them allow 'gold donations for the cause'.

10g~1point.

Apollo33

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/

I don't see why they can't exchange 10 faction for 1g. I mean, scrolls sell for like 1k. Yet they cost 10k in faction. I'm sure Amber and Jade will drop greatly once people start trading stuff in. So they'll probably go for like 100g. Get 10k faction for 1k gold. Sounds fair to me.

It'd also encourage people to do vanquishing with blessings for faction. Rather than just doing FFF. Provide people easier ways to gain faction. That's what I want. It is kind of confusing as to why you can't simply "buy" your faction... They should really add that. I mean, you're still supporting the Kurzicks/Luxons, right? A great gold sink, especially for the titles.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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/signed i love this idea, cause supporting the army with weps and gold is something that is needed, maybe materials too, like give them 1 stack of mats and get faction, idk about how much.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

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Glad you guys have shown a liking to this so far. I was expecting loads of people looking for any excuse to knock it back.

Shortly after posting, i thought of another extension to the idea. For a greater reward, you could donate green items. I'm sure half the people in Guild Wars has at least a few greens that aren't shifting or being used.
I myself have given loads away in the past.

Kurzick Bureacrat: Hmm, this is an exceptional weapon *player name*. Are you sure you want to donate it to the cause to help drive back the Luxon scum?
Yes. Give me 500 Kurzick faction.
No. There's a nub in Kaineng that might need it.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Eh.... not a bad idea (though it could use a better thread title so people actually know what it's about ).

/signed just because of merchanted enough crummy gold items that I might have gladly used for this instead.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

oo /signed. very nice idea.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

They will never go for this...

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

They already gave us faction for killing things with the blessing... seriously, thats good enough.

Twinsoul

Twinsoul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha

Rogue Clan [Rg]

Mo/N

/signed for great justice.
This would give me something worth-while to do with all the golds I find while checking treasure chests, as well as help me grind the faction title up.

drakun01

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

/signed
Really, whats not to like?

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

/signed

It still doesn't matter if this turned the titles buyable since gold takes longer to farm than factions anyway. This will work as another goldsink for GW. Gold items that are not perfect or unpopular can be used to gain progress towards a grind-based title and not introduce more gp into the game. Trading gold items give more factions than straight gp transfer could work too as the current market is saturated with golds and only perfect ones are desired for the most part. This will give purpose to "useless" gold items.

While I do understand that the current blessing are good enough, this will help the stagnant market and help the solo farmers sell their gold items to players and not to the merchant.

Apollo33

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
They will never go for this...

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

They already gave us faction for killing things with the blessing... seriously, thats good enough.
What's wrong with having it be a buyable title? I don't really understand... A buyable title is WAY better than a title that requires grinding any day. I say let us donate gold in return for faction on our title. 1 plat for 10k faction towards title. That way, you're just donating it to the Kurzicks/Luxons for their own benefit. You still wouldn't be able to finish "Befriending the Luxons/Kurzicks" by just paying 1k. Nor would you be able to get 10 scrolls/amber/jade for 1k.

Seriously, what's wrong with buying the title? Many Kurzick guilds have just been FFFing to keep up their faction. They don't have to kill foes, they just run to a stinking place on a map and die. I'm not putting it down, as I'll probably do it... Since it's the easiest way to earn faction. But they can earn 10k in under an hour doing this... Why not just allow people to buy faction?

More gold sinks are good. Prices will come down even more (something that ANet likes) because people are spending money on stuff other than items.

Even with 10k faction for 1 plat, you've still got to spend 1000 plat to get the max title. That's the max amount you can keep in storage.

I think the reason YOU don't want a buyable title is because YOU don't think it's fair to YOU. Well, I don't think it's a fair title in general. Kurzicks have a bugged repeatable-quest that they can easily do in under 1 to 2 mins.

Ravi

Ravi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Average Joes [none]

Mo/W

i agree with this idea, but i think it will be a bit more on-par with the rest of the faction generating options if it would directly transfer weapon value to faction, e.g. 234g item >>> 234 faction, other than that :

/signed

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

/signed

Most items nowadays are little better than merch food.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

I like the trading in golds (and maybe purples) for faction, but definitely not paying 10g for 1 faction...

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.
You can already buy the Allegiance... It just takes a LONG time, as it's only once per shrine of the OPPOSING faction. Not only that, but you only gain 10 faction (costs 100 gold) at a time.

Neevan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Danish Viking [DKV]

W/Mo

Nice..
What about, if you want new pvp equipment, it costs you factions?
Like then if someone sold a gold for 27 factions, then you have to buy it for 27 again, or something like that.
Also, then you can only buy the equipment you have unlucked on pve, or that someone sold to factions guy

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

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/signed

Good idea, although I'm a bit worried if the devvers have time to plan, code, test and implement all the good idea's posted here.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

/signed

Means I don't have to grind forever to get the title.
Would cost exactly 1000k (1 million gold) to buy the title.

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

/signed and /signed again.

What could be bad about that?

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
They will never go for this...

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

They already gave us faction for killing things with the blessing... seriously, thats good enough.
A buyable title is bad why ?

RbX

RbX

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Devils Dark Destiny

W/E

/signed.. best game idea in a long time.. godd job

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

/signed. I don't think you should be allowed to donate gold - that would just make it too easy for some people. It would end up as people having to just pay for their title, getting gold from one of those pay-for-gold gaming thingies, which Anet certainly doesn't want. But giving weapons? Neat idea.

Liberations

Liberations

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Azeroth (shhh)

Ryders of the Sword [FrNd]

E/

/signed

Excellent Idea, as the thread title says. I say though, make it a limit like maybe 10 items a day you can donate, and I think that you shouldn't be allowed to donate more than 5k gold a day. If this is added, make another tier to the tracks because it would be easier to obtain. I don't know if ArenaNet would like doing this kind of thing, and I think it would receive harsh criticism from many players, but meaningful gold sinks would help this game out trememndously. If the game is back to greatness when GW 2 comes out, ArenaNet may be back on their tracks.

Good idea, keep them coming.

Jonn Shadowstalker

Jonn Shadowstalker

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

The Isle of Meditation

The League of Assassins [XIII]

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/signed

I like this idea alot. So yeah.

-Shadow

Dagoth Umbra

Dagoth Umbra

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

In Cartman's Brain, Directing.

Lazy Dominus Legatus [LaZy]

W/E

hhmm, maybe, but on the original posters idea of a weapon worth 270 gold = 27 measly faction, no, more like x10, or 2700 faction, or x10 for white and blue stuff, x20 for purples and golds, but definately not 270 for 27 faction points. Even 270g weapon for 270 faction is too low. so again, maybe, but it would have to be worth it.

dsnesnintendo

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

i like the idea alot just up the faction gain maybe 5g=1 faction or something similar(weapon price not actual gold)

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Lol, i like the fact that i got about 4 seperate quotes saying 'whats wrong with it been buyable?'.

People who've been working on this title from the beginning will be incredibly pissed, i really don't think Anet want to piss off more people.

We have enough buyable titles already.

I'm betting at least half of you couldn't afford even part of the title if it was infact buyable and would then start to whine about how you've never got any cash.

Much like all those tools who buy enough booze or candy for rank 1... then go no further... why? What benefit does r1 get you?

Kool Kirby

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed, but for GOLDS ONLY. No purples, and ABSOLUTELY no money trading.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Awesome idea!
Just think about it, first level title = 100k faction = 1 mil gold worth of Gold items!
Why not keep that million and not just go AB or FFF that 100k faction in 2-4 days?

btw, i absolutely hate buyable titles with a passion.