Make expertise work on shouts.

odly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Make expertise work on shouts.

I allways thoughy it did. Yesterday I used Stand Your Ground and Fall Back on my ranger and discovered it doesn't. It seemed so natural for me for expertise to work on shouts as well. Apparently it doesn't work for warrior "skills" either. I think it did in the past ?

Now it works for "attacks", "touch skills" and "Ranger skills". It used to work on all "skills" in the past right ?

Please change it back. :-)
Using Stand Your Ground was just too expensive for my ranger.

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

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It never worked on warrior skills.

I think it used to work on all stances (which might be why you're getting it mixed up with warrior skills). I vaguely remember using mesmer mantras under expertise.

Don't quite see why it should work on shouts, though. Shouting was never in a ranger's role.

Edit: I might very well be talking out of my rear. I just checked wiki and it does say "all attacks".

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Expertise

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Originally Posted by wiki.guildwars
Expertise only affect these secondary profession skills

* Attack Skills
* Binding Rituals
* Touch Skills

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

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It use to work on shouts but it quite honestly made rangers better paragons than paragons were. Only ranger shouts are affected now and i think thats best.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

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Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

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yes it did work on warrior skills, it worked on "Skills" anything labeled skill was reduced. i know i used to run a [skill]flourish[/skill] interrupter ranger, but they nerfed that *cry*

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

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Yeah Expertise would be too good if it worked on shouts.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Why did they take away the affects all non-spell skills thingy?

Too powerful?

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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yea idk...... but they left touchers -.- there was much profanity spewing from my mouth that day

OhCrapLions

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ivalice

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Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
yea idk...... but they left touchers -.- there was much profanity spewing from my mouth that day
after the merging of evasion and blocking i find that its was infinitely easier to kill them. Not to mention most assassin skills can utterly destroy them.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

If expertise affects shouts, paragons are dead.

I think expertise needs to no longer effect "touch" skills.

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
If expertise affects shouts, paragons are dead.

I think expertise needs to no longer effect "touch" skills.
or just convert vampbite etc from skill to "SPELL" and nerf touch rangers. Seriously we've had this BS for a year+ now. They nerf E/D's but they were easy, dazed or gaze of contempt etc. Touchers are far more annoying to kill than an E/D.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
or just convert vampbite etc from skill to "SPELL" and nerf touch rangers. Seriously we've had this BS for a year+ now. They nerf E/D's but they were easy, dazed or gaze of contempt etc. Touchers are far more annoying to kill than an E/D.
Agreed. Touch rangers are just annoying and shouldn't have been viable in the first place.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
or just convert vampbite etc from skill to "SPELL" and nerf touch rangers. Seriously we've had this BS for a year+ now. They nerf E/D's but they were easy, dazed or gaze of contempt etc. Touchers are far more annoying to kill than an E/D.
yea only problem with that idea is expertise lowers touch spells too last time i checked.