Tyrian PvE Skills!!

electrofish

electrofish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Now that both Factions and Nightfall have their own campaign specific PvE skills, it is only fair that Tyria have them too.

I understand that there is a lack of trackable title in tyria (no alliance, ss or lb title to grind for), however this is not necessarily a bad thing. Associating skills to title progression just encourage grinding, so why not just give us skills that does not progress? or alternatively associate it with the primary attribute of each profession. No matter how it is done the most important thing though, is to introduce PvE skills to Phrophecies since it's already missed out on other rewards such as end game green.

My suggestion is to have the skills awarded by the vision of glint upon completing all 4 of the titan quests. Any thoughts?

orthrus

i am lurking

Join Date: Sep 2005

At home

Mo/

there's 5 titan quests tbh

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

*shrug* just have each campaign's skills be available after completing the final mission in normal mode, then have em get stronger for each point on the protector and guardian titles.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Introduce a new title/faction - The Shining Blade! There we go.

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

Sunspear lvl 7 or 8 is easy enough to get just by questing and taking bounties. So, shouldn't Prophecies skills be equally easy to get and develop? Skill trainer available in Dragon's Lair outpost? And then Dakk in Ember light can "upgrade" the skills when you get to him, if you've completed all three Southern Shiverpeak missions?

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Don't screw up prophecies with grind for skills too.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Introduce a new title/faction - The Shining Blade! There we go.
Oooooh, great idea. Institute a border over Kryta, like a Kurzick/Luxon border. Then give Tyrians some new alliance battle arenas, option to create alliances aligned with either the White Mantle or The Shining Blade. ROXXXXXXORZ!!1

Same could be done with Deldrimor/Stone Summit conflict. YEEEHAW!



On topic: yes, some TYRIAN PvE skills should be in order. I fail to see the reason why is Tyria neglected. No end-game green, no pve-only skills, ... Tyria ftw!

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
Oooooh, great idea. Institute a border over Kryta, like a Kurzick/Luxon border. Then give Tyrians some new alliance battle arenas, option to create alliances aligned with either the White Mantle or The Shining Blade. ROXXXXXXORZ!!1

Same could be done with Deldrimor/Stone Summit conflict. YEEEHAW!
Yeaaah, I was actually thinking more like the Sunspear. You don't have a choice with who you fight with there, either. Not some Kuzick/Luxon thing. Sunspear is fine, since it's part of the storyline, and you get pretty high levels just by playing normally. Also, if it was implemented into Prophecies, it would be completely optional grind, unlike having to have a certain amount to move on. Win/win, IMO.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

I agree .....tyria is my favorite place to play and i own all 3 chapters. I spend more time there then anywhere and there are usually more active player groups as well. There should be something worthwhile to do in tyria...the only real place for greans is in SF and that gets boring....there are what 3-4 others scattered around the map...give us some sort of end game content in the Original GW please!!

Engel the Fallen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

It would be awesome. Give like 4 points per monster killed and start the title at 500000.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Yeaaah, I was actually thinking more like the Sunspear. You don't have a choice with who you fight with there, either. Not some Kuzick/Luxon thing. Sunspear is fine, since it's part of the storyline, and you get pretty high levels just by playing normally. Also, if it was implemented into Prophecies, it would be completely optional grind, unlike having to have a certain amount to move on. Win/win, IMO.
I see what you mean. Now that I think of it - I'd like a sunspear-like Shining Blade title much better than an additional "perpetual warfare" thingy they have in Factions.

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
On topic: yes, some TYRIAN PvE skills should be in order. I fail to see the reason why is Tyria neglected. No end-game green, no pve-only skills, ... Tyria ftw!
FOR TYRIAN.......best place in GW's
Please stop the neglect......

Steps_Descending

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by orthrus
there's 5 titan quests tbh
Seriously this could be the best option for PvE skills. You get them from the seers and they grow more powerfull for every titan quests acomplished. Those needed better rewards then the 20 000exp.

If they made it faction oriented (though we dont have titles or faction, and please DON'T ADD the blessing system in Tyria!), the white mantle or the Shining blades are the most obvious answers. Perhaps more the white mantle.


On a more humourous tone...
I want the last skill to be Spectral Agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT : I said the seers but the wision of Glint is probably what will happen.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steps_Descending
Seriously this could be the best option for PvE skills. You get them from the seers and they grow more powerfull for every titan quests acomplished. Those needed better rewards then the 20 000exp.

If they made it faction oriented (though we dont have titles or faction, and please DON'T ADD the blessing system in Tyria!), the white mantle or the Shining blades are the most obvious answers. Perhaps more the white mantle.


On a more humourous tone...
I want the last skill to be Spectral Agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT : I said the seers but the wision of Glint is probably what will happen.
...If at all.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Don't take the messed up luxon/kurzick idea, worse idea in the game. Lets limit and divide the player base with a useless Alliance system that only works in one chapter, but limits there interactions in another!

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

They release two sets of profession-specific skills for free, so it's only fair they release a third set for free too? I'm afraid game developers may have a different definition for the word "fair"

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by DFrost
They release two sets of profession-specific skills for free, so it's only fair they release a third set for free too? I'm afraid game developers may have a different definition for the word "fair"
eh you do make a point, but should at least let one of the current skill sets be obtainable in prophecies, to show that they still have interest in supporting an older product instead of abandoning it completely for the new areas...

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

I'd like some Tyrian PvE skills. The Luxon/Kurzick skills require boring PvP grind(which sort of defeats the purpose of these being PvE only skills) and I already have the relevant Sunspear skills. I know quite a few people who only own Prophecies and they're confused about why they don't get anymore new content. At the very least ANet could give PvE only to those who've beaten Augury Rock and have ascended(foreign characters would have to beat Augury Rock to get the skills, even if they're Closer To The Stars or Sunspear General). There are a goodly number of missions before Augury Rock and so its not like it would be too easy to get *cough* Sunspear skills *cough* or too tedious to get *cough* Luxon/Kurzick skills *cough*.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Cool ideas, although I don't see Anet introducing any new Skills in Tyria, as Tyria has no titles that could be used to chart the skills.

Mitchel

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
I know quite a few people who only own Prophecies and they're confused about why they don't get anymore new content.
Because they didn't buy their latest products, means they should add stuff for them?
Oh and what is HM, Totem Axes, SF, Tombs and Rotwing Bow again?

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

The reason it wouldnt really work is because Tyria doesnt have "faction points" (i.e, Kuzack, Luxon, Sunpear, Lightbringer) which you can earn!

The skills which were added to factions and nightfall obviously work with them, and work towards how much faction u have!

And I dont see Anet adding something as big as faction points to Tyria!

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

no point, of this. GWEN is coming out, so there goes new pve skills for ya there.

Lyonette

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

E/

They have alrdy said there will be Sunspear-style titles to earn in EotN, an EotN is located in Tyria so....

xshadowwolfx

xshadowwolfx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

California | Ascalon

Mo/

Eh, maybe PvE Tyrian skills based off the Protector of Tyria title track...but the 5 Glint quests seem like a good idea. I might actually do them then. =)

Oh please Gaile at least ask the devs about this idea. =D.

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
I see what you mean. Now that I think of it - I'd like a sunspear-like Shining Blade title much better than an additional "perpetual warfare" thingy they have in Factions.
Yes its nice and all, but the Shining blade suck every which way to Sunday. Theyre also extremely ignorant, and they wear tights.

Fact not oppinion~ White Mantle > Shining Blade.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Why do they even need to be based on a title ?

I say tie them to an attribute line instead, since there aren't any complaints about that.

roysland

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Me/

Rurik-skills. We all love that cheezy prince.

"You cannot save me"
Shout. You loose all health and all party members are healed for 100-300% of the amount of health you lost.

""This is a fight we cannot win"
Skill. All party members shadow step out of aggro range.

etc etc.. Frankly, I thought of Tyrian skills too, but unlike Factions and Nightfall, Prophecies is an extremely well designed game, there are no superpowered mobs or areas (perhaps Icedome is an exception.) I don't see the need for them, and besides, I'd rather have Anet focusing on making GW:EN as solid as Prophecies.

Prophecies makes me happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

people who make threads with misleading titles should automatically be banned

Enix

Enix

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

I am in a transitional period.

GRE

PvE Skills should be based on Protector Titles because...

THEY ARE PVE SKILLS, PROTECTOR IS A PVE TITLE (Friend of the Lux/Kurz isn't nessisarily a PvE title, though Sunspear is). Not every mission is Super Easy (heros have made them relitivly easy).

At least make Tyrian PvE skills based on the Protector title - that takes a while to get people. :S

/le sigh

Also, Anet, give PvE skills a different border color, similar to elites. Totally.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Tyria gets kinda boned with a lot of updates.

However, I'd rather have it the way it is now than into another Elona

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Al
people who make threads with misleading titles should automatically be banned
It's not misleading. You interpreted it wrong.

On a more to-the-point note, the completion of the Titan Quests would be a decent follow-up to Tyrian PvE skills.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyonette
They have alrdy said there will be Sunspear-style titles to earn in EotN, an EotN is located in Tyria so....
EotN, or GW:EN as every else calls it, isnt just located in Tyria(prophercies)! It accessed from and spans all 3 campaigns.

Its an expansion for all 3 campaigns!

How they will access it from each seperate campaign I have no idea, but because its all underground in caves and dungeons, it means it cant just be contained underneath prophercies.

So to say that adding sunspear skills to GW:EN is like adding them to prophercies is incorrect, because GW:EN expands upon all 3 campaigns and isnt localised to any of them.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Introduce a new title/faction - The Shining Blade! There we go.
I have trouble taking your posts seriously, I can't stop staring at that Berries n' Cream lad. But on topic, more skills is a good thing in my book, so I say bring 'em on.