Thrill of Victory: Possibly the worst attack ingame

Thrill of Victory
If this blow hits, and you have more health than target foe you strike for +15...39 damage.
5 energy, 8 recharge

Compare this to the other "victory" skills:
Victorious Sweep
If this attack hits, you deal +1...25 damage. If the target foe has less Health than you, you gain 30...70 Health.
5 energy, 4 recharge

Chilling Victory
If it hits, this attack strikes for +5...17 damage. Whenever it hits a foe who has less Health than you, target foe and all adjacent foes are struck for 15...51 cold damage.
10 energy, 10 recharge

or even warrior skills:
Power attack
If this attack hits, you strike for +10...34 damage.
5 energy, 3 recharge

Soldier's Strike
If this attack hits, you deal +10...34 damage. If you are under the effects of a Chant or Shout, this attack cannot be "blocked".
5 energy, 4 recharge

Counterattack
If this attack hits, you strike for +5...29 damage. If you hit an attacking foe, you gain 2...5 Energy.
5 energy, 6 recharge

Griffon's Sweep/Leviathan's Sweep
If this attack hits, you strike for +5...17 damage. If this attack is "blocked," your target is knocked down and suffers 10...29 damage.
5 energy, 8 recharge

Desperation Blow
If this attack hits, you strike for +10...34 damage, and your target suffers from one of the following conditions: Deep Wound (for 20 seconds), Weakness (for 20 seconds), Bleeding (for 25 seconds), or Crippled (for 15 seconds). After making a Desperation Blow, you are knocked down.
5 energy, 7 recharge
Clearly, there is nothing victorious about Thrill of Victory...
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Proposed change:
Thrill of Victory
If this attack hits, you deal +15...39 damage. If the target foe has less Health than you, you gain 2...5 strikes of adrenaline.
5 energy, 8 recharge

OR
If this blow hits, and you have more health than target foe you strike for +15...39 damage. Otherwise, this skill recharges instantly.
5 energy, 8 recharge

OR
If this attack hits, you deal +15...39 damage. If the target foe has less Health than you, you gain 5 Health for each rank in Tactics.
5 energy, 8 recharge

Any ideas? Because right now any weapon's skills are better.

Yeah, I'd agree it needs a bit of a buff - but it certainly ain't the worst attack.
There's Hundred Blades, for one thing.
Then there's the poor Ranger... take a gander at Power Shot, Presicion Shot et al.
On top of that... there's ~90% of assassin attack skills which are pretty terrible.

Oh... Did I mention Hundred Blades?

Hundred Blades could be used to build adrenaline since it energy based.

Before Whirlwind attack, it was also the only sword attack to hit multiple foes.

Of course, compared to cyclone axe it isn't much.

It's bad, not the worst with skills like splinter shot around, but definitely very bad. The only build I've seen it in is the pretty terrible shove spike (something like shove, crushing, thrill) which is basically obsolete, if it has ever had a serious use (say, before assassins were invented and in an adrenaline denial heavy meta...). The damage improvement on soldier's strike is really minimal, considering you're replacing a conditional bonus in addition to the damage with a conditional requirement for the damage itself and getting double recharge thrown in.

Thrill of Victory
If this attack hits, you deal +15...39 damage. If the target foe has less Health than you, you gain 2...5 strikes of adrenaline.
5 energy, 8 recharge

^overpowered, very

If this blow hits, and you have more health than target foe you strike for +15...39 damage. Otherwise, this skill recharges instantly.
5 energy, 8 recharge

^I probably wouldn't take it.

If this attack hits, you deal +15...39 damage. If the target foe has less Health than you, you gain 5 Health for each rank in Tactics.
5 energy, 8 recharge

^this is the best one imo but not really there. It's not a great heal, victorious sweep's self heal is potentially pretty strong in that it can hit multiple targets which you presumably wouldn't be doing with this. I guess steady stance w/ds would lap it up.

Thrill of Victory

If this attack hits, you deal +5...29 damage. If the target foe has less health than you gain 2...5...6 energy.
5 energy, 6 recharge

This is what I'd do I think. Counterattack, but in tactics with a different condition.

Thrill of Victory

If this attack hits, you deal +15...39 damage. If the target foe dies from this attack, all your skills are recharged.
5 energy, 15 recharge

Just a bit of fun for pve. Pretty hard to ensure you get the kill yourself even then though so maybe would be worthless outside of solo farming in reality.

[skill]protector's strike[/skill] and [skill]leviathan's sweep[/skill] are both much worse than Thrill of Victory.


And Hundred Blades is not a bad skill...try going W/E and use one of the Conjure spells.

Even with Conjures... Hundred Blades is a bad skill.
Dragon Slash and Sun and Moon Slash says it is.

And Protector's Strike is fifty million times better than Thrill... Try PvPing sometime.

Thrill of Victory=more damage than Protector's Strike and you dont need to hit a moving target. And if attacking a moving target, theres a 100% chance of a critical hit making Thrill outdamage it....and whats the point in the 1/2 activation on a moving target? None, thats what.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr

Quote: Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Protstrike has nothing to do with moving foes and everything to do with the 0.5 s activation.

Hundred blades should buffed to a 6 seconds recharge instead of 8.

I'd take Thrill over Skull Crack anyday.

Well it looks very good beside old power shot but that seems old and forgotten .

As far as melle attacks go its quite nice imo, the damage is quite a bit higer than most of the others. And the conditon is quite easy to meet.

However when compared to power attack it looks like a longer recharging conditonal version and the larger damage deosnt stand for much. I think an added effect wouldnt hurt it.

This is from waaay back, but I think it used to give you health if you had more HP than your target. Was never mentioned in the skill write up and the health giving was considered a bug and got removed in some patch ages ago.

w/ 13 hammer mastery and 14 tactics do shove,crushing blow, thrill of victory for a good amount of dmg in a small amount of time

Since the buff of Power Attack, this skill is definately outclassed, but it's far from one of the worst attack skills, especially when compared to skills on other classes. As mentioned by Diddy Bow, Power Shot and Point Blank Shot make this skill look like gold.

Power shot needs a buff. That I can acknowledge. Point Blank shot is spammable and if you have 16 expertise it has as much bonus damage as 16 Marksmanship bow attacks. The half range is kind of iffy though.

Thrill of Victory used to give 100 health if you land the killing blow on the target.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Quote: Originally Posted by Bryant Again

See, the only problem when comparing it with hundred blades, skull crack, decapitate is that the latter three are all elites. And if there's any debate on which to take (thrill or one of those three), then clearly those skills are underpowered as elite skills.