PvE balance? Yeah right!

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

An idea that I have been vocal about and also very fond of is:
Balance is needed for PvP.
Try to balance the PvP setting first - as it should have been done with the bloody armour cap - by adding PvP rules.
IF it is impossible to balance the game that way - balance the skills SINCE skills are being used by both sides of the game - PvP and PvE.
And if skills get balanced - balance PvE FOR THE NEW SKILLS!

So why the heck does this happen?


As you can see - my lovely warrior got hit by Debilitating Shot and lost 1 point of energy.
And based on wiki - that means that the lovely Redwood Shepherd has a 0 in Marksmanship!
Most of us will remember that Debilitating Shot used to be an unlinked skill - then it got moved to Marksmanship and then somebody out there forgot that there were actually foes using this skill!

Yes - I am aware that this isn't a big deal. Its actually quite positive since instead of losing those 10ish energy I lost only 1!
But now - lets think of the Factions ritu hench who is still spamming that shelter! Or the ritu bosses (or normal foes for that matter) with their lovely 16+ attribute points in little something called channeling AFTER the buff to it!
That's where the real problem starts!


So - the lovely A.net - either make your balance team do the job right (that means by looking at the impact of a balance on BOTH sides of the game!) OR just stop trashing the game with half-baked ideas!

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Agreed. Remove PvP from the game.. altogether...
Problem Solved.

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Agreed. Remove PvP from the game.. altogether...
Problem Solved.
Or remove the majority of big mouthed players who think theyre '1337!!1' for running a burning arrow rangers. Of course this would be 83.2% of all Kurzick players, but sacrafices must be made

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

poor spirit shepards. They got pwned.

/report

Miral

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Agreed. Remove PvP from the game.. altogether...
Problem Solved.
im playing pvp right now... yet this gets my vote. oy, big cesspool, it is

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

It's too late to balance both PvE and PvP simotaneously; why else would ArenaNet be starting Guild Wars 2 this early?

GWEN will likely make the balance worse with the 50 PvE skills...

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
why else would ArenaNet be starting Guild Wars 2 this early?
Because they realised they really need to rework their engine?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Because they realised they really need to rework their engine?
That was a rhetorical question, but yes.

samcobra

samcobra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
Agreed. Remove PvP from the game.. altogether...
Problem Solved.

yeaaa!!! so that any good players that were actually left would also leave and move to some other game that isn't complete shit.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
Or remove the majority of big mouthed players who think theyre '1337!!1' for running a burning arrow rangers. Of course this would be 83.2% of all Kurzick players, but sacrafices must be made
Because touch rangers are so much more "1337!!1", eh luxon?

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well, I can agree that the neglect of balancing pve is rather sad, But remember .. It's not ''important'' *wink*.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Don't worry; on hard mode it's -13 energy from their imba 20 marksmanship.

There are a number of enemies like that throughout the game where they have a skill with a 0 spec. Even before skill balances and what not, for just some reason they decided to give enemies skills that they weren't specced in.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

I would say that make all skills work differently in PvE and PvP. Let them be as imba as they were in PvE. The majority of the tweaks are good only for PvP but as always, PvE gets the worst out of the entire deal.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Sure, all these suggestions of "Remove PvP" or "Separate them" are fine and dandy, but they are also HUGE changes to the game. So they won't happen. Ever. But for arguments sake, my opinion:

Remove PvE. Why? I love to see people cry. Example? Soul Reaping. Seeing people cry makes me happy, so Soul Reaping was a good one. Removing PvE would solve many of the problems with PvP, as the devs would be able to properly devote the time that is needed to fix PvP. It would also cause a lot of crying. Which is also good.

Also, if you take that seriously, you are stupid. Really really stupid.

Destinyy

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

Faction of War [ARES]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
Or remove the majority of big mouthed players who think theyre '1337!!1' for running a burning arrow rangers. Of course this would be 83.2% of all Kurzick players, but sacrafices must be made
Lol, My guild is Kurzick, I play Ab for Kurzicks mostly and I get hit with Burning Arrows plenty!!! I bet you half those "Luxons" you're playing with are guest Kurzicks trying to get Luxon faction anyways... and visa versa for Kurzicks...

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Do Blades of Corruption still use Shield Bash, even though they don't wear shields?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Remove PvE. Why? I love to see people cry. Example? Soul Reaping. Seeing people cry makes me happy, so Soul Reaping was a good one. Removing PvE would solve many of the problems with PvP, as the devs would be able to properly devote the time that is needed to fix PvP. It would also cause a lot of crying. Which is also good.

Also, if you take that seriously, you are stupid. Really really stupid.
Crying is always a plus. But believe it or not, there's actually merit in what you're saying.