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Originally Posted by Series
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Originally Posted by Series
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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
It has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with decency and maturity. You are not hiding behind a computer screen, you are out in the public when you play this game.
Would You and the OP act like 10 year old kids trying to come up with IDIOTIC names if you weren't hiding in the basement of your parents home? You really need to let this go, I cannot see why any reasonable adult would stand here and say that rude, explicit, demeaning, racist, etc names are "OK" |
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Again, I never once said that offending one person is okay. I never said that killing one person is okay. So by your logic, killing 1 person is that same as killing 100?
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Originally Posted by Series
No? If you do something wrong, you do something wrong. And it can be wrong on a severity. For example, an armed assault would get you in less trouble then a shooting spree, because it is less severe. You are punished regardless however, which is what you seem to not comprehend.
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Ok, so then we can agree that things severe, such as joking about AIDS should be punished harshly, since it hits millions of people. We can also agree that making fun of One Legged John, would hit very very few people. So what do you suggest for the small punishment? 100g? 30 second ban?
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Originally Posted by icymanipulator
What ivory tower are you in to determine who is adult and what is considered appropriate adult conduct? It has everything to do with political correctness and my drawing of a comparison between other far deadlier pandemics is both relevant and reasonable. Obviously you haven't been reading the thread. Why would cracker, ofay or any variation thereof be acceptable when negro is not? You know what fog, I find cracker offensive. I find anything racially pejorative against white people offensive. Explain it away with immaturity all you want or "hiding in mommies basement" which is frankly childish on your part. Making exceptions is not ok and if one form is not allowed the other shouldn't be either.
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Ok I don't know exact numbers, but I'm sure we can agree that more people have aids that play GW than people that have lost a leg?
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
OMG it was a simple temp ban for choosing a name obviously intended for shock value. A temporary ban. So you can't play GW for a few days. It's not punishment - it's a deterrent, and a way for Anet to pull a little CYA.
Look, if it happened to me, I would be pissed too. Though if I ever made a character name like that, I'd understand the action taken. In fact, I'd probably be waiting for the ban stick every day. |
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Originally Posted by Series
I'm sure we can agree that more white people play Guild Wars then black people (GW is hosted in Europe and America, both predominantly white, while not in Africa). So I guess that names with the n word in them should be given quick 30 second bans while names with "cracka" in them deserve perma-bans?
Or maybe the little offensiveness scale you are trying to use doesn't... work? See, I think we could have avoided the murder analogy for one simple reason: Murdering is against the rules. Having a name that has a word in it that is allowed by the filter is not. |
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Originally Posted by http://guildwars.com/support/legal/rulesofconduct.php
1. While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players.
3. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language. |
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Originally Posted by explodemyheart
Omniclasm, I think you forgot your initial post. Or you weren't paying attention? Or something?
You made the argument that it's not okay to use the name Snype has A I D S because there may be some man named Snype that plays GW that happens to have aids, and his life may have been devastated by it. So in response to that, what if a character with the name One Legged John was created, and there happened to be some man named John that plays GW that lost his leg is a tragic accident in which, like I suggested, he lost both his wife and child. How is that different? So maybe there's more people that play GW that have aids than those who've lost limbs in a traumatic accident, so what? If something is offensive, it's offensive. Snype whose life has been devastated by aids has no more or less right to feel personally offended than One-legged John who lost his wife and child just because he happens to be in a majority. |
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Originally Posted by Snype
When I bought Guild Wars, I read the Code of Conduct. I knew what I could do and what I could not do in order to avoid losing playing privileges. My problem right now is that Arenanet has taken away my right to play (and essentially, some of my money). I don't care how long it is for. If I didn't break the Code of Conduct (I challenge someone to find out where I did), then I see no reason to ban.
EDIT:After seeing the above post, I still don't believe I violated any part of those two clauses. |
| (a) Content. You acknowledge that by using the Software and the Service you will have access to graphics, sound effects, music, animation-style video, content, layout, design, files, data, characters (and items and attributes associated with characters), game objects and text (collectively, "Game Content"). NC Interactive does not pre-screen Game Content as a matter of policy. YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT NC INTERACTIVE HAS THE RIGHT, BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION, TO REMOVE ANY CONTENT (INCLUDING YOURS) IN WHOLE OR IN PART AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE AND WITH NO LIABILITY OF ANY KIND. |
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Originally Posted by Series
*Begins to wonder if these people actually believe what they are saying or are just trying to defend Anet*
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Personally, I don't find any name "offensive" per se. It's all in context. Would that name, or what was said in chat, be offensive to a large enough group, or a loud enough individual? If so, then it needs to be brought to Anets attention, or it could in the long run hurt them with bad publicity. That's really all there is to that.
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Originally Posted by explodemyheart
And followed it with the ideal that less people are missing legs than people suffering with AIDS. SO WHAT? Who cares if there's 1 million people with AIDS that play GW, and just 1 man with a missing leg that plays GW? If you're championing that it's not okay because those 1 million people have possibly had their lives devastated, you cannot then turn around and say "so what about John and his one leg, he's in the minority!" Offensive is offensive is offensive is offensive! It doesn't matter how many people it offends, or for what reason they are offended, you can't just exempt certain people because they're in the minority.
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
My first post was explaining how somebody could find it offensive.
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