+0 xp to +1 xp in pre-searing

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister O
Or just change the title to Meat, since LDOAs are just meals for charrs.
Legendary Seasoned Meat of Ascalon

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

/signed I need to remake my ranger this may be an excuse to do it if they do this would like this title with survivor (factions fff ftw ). Also instead of using MithranArkanere they could do that every 25 monsters you get 5 exp. points like they did with the GW:EN stuff (for every 25 monsters you get a random buff). That way they can't just kill 1 thing zone go back in and do it again.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilanthe


I wouldn't expect a change in this title... moreso, if they would have wanted it, it would already be done.
Well, i don't know who thought death leveling a great idea.

I really think anet is smart enough to come up with something more logical

/signed x100

Mohnzh

Mohnzh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...

[KCOR]

Mo/

/signed for the >5 levels = 1exp, >10 levels = 0exp.

This way you can't do it on aloe seeds and easy stuff like that, but actually have to get to the charr. Also, it is so far unfavorable to death-levelling that those that did it the traditional way should not be bothered. DL will still be the popular way to do this. Do you know how long it takes to kill that many monsters??

PvE Less IMO

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2007

/signed I really want a way to get LDoA and Survivor
Plus if you think about it ANet is rewarding the people with LDoA for exploiting...

The Lurch

The Lurch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

In the darkest depths of your mind.

Guilds are for yuppies.

A/

Please, can we drop this stupid shit on LDoA? Anet isn't going to change it, it fills pre-sear up with a bunch of noobs thinking that committing make-believe suicide 3 billion times is going to make them a good player, and it starts a bunch of threads on it, filling up the forums. This title is completely and utterly pointless, more so than Survivor. At least with that title there is a possibility that the holder of it has some fragment of skill.

But if this were implemented, it would at least take the 'make believe suicide' part out of my description.
All in all, this title should be removed from the game, IMO.

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_jos
Well, ok, but only if the LDoA is mutual exclusive with survivor and the XP can only be gained by killing charr.
And the time needed to gain the title would be roughly the same as deathlevel.
Yeah, I think everyone would love it if they had to kill monsters over and over for 12 hours instead of afking and going to class...sleeping...curing cancer then coming back and killings stuff for 5 minutes.

That's sarcasm btw.

/not signed

You guys are just looking at your neighbors lawn gnomes and complaining about your pink flamingos. Like Gaile said it's a reward for the people who found a completely silly exploit and are so dedicated to getting lvl 20 that they'd be willing to reach it 9 charr at a time. It takes many many nights of setting up afking, and it also equals many many hours during DLing when you can't play GW

GW never intended for ppl to reach lvl 20 in pre-sear, so there's no reason they should make it easier for everyone to get it.

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

/notsigned

LDOA should never be diminished for those who have achieved...and its pretty clear your main desire here is that u can have survivor+LDOA on the same char, theres already enough people complaning about their tyrian born chars that cant get survivor...you want to open a whole new box of horrors with people crying about nto being able to get survivor+LDOA because they changed it

the_last_m_p

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

/Not signed

LDoA at the moment takes an amazing amount of dedication. Changing it to something obtainable by simple grind will be spitting in the face of all those that spent the exorbitant amount of time it takes to get it (or are about to get it in another 3000 xp or so, hehe).

As for all those who complain that this title takes no skill to obtain, I would then ask why don't THEY have it by now? I mean, if it is that silly or senseless, why are there so many people in this thread wanting it eaily obtainable? I have yet to see a single existing LDoA signing this

If you DO wish this title, get it the same way as everyone else - by spending time each day setting up the charr for death levelling, by slowly watching your XP progress bar climb upwards untill yet another level is behind you. And don't forget, that getting to level 16 sensibly involves a LOT of charr boss hunting which isn't what I would call a newbie-friendly thing.

Now then, go and make enemies give +1 xp, even for the whole 10 levels below stuff, and what you will have is a bunch of ebay postings of "Selling an accoung with LDoA" and everyone who dye farms in pre or can walk out of barradin's to shoot some lvl 0 aloes suddenly obtaining a title that used to indicate perseverance.

If you want the title, go ahead and get it the same way as everyone else. If you can't be bothered, then stop complaining. If you have technical issues stopping you from this title, such as the abovementioned disconnects, well, join the club, I had to add an extra gig of RAM and go x64 for the game to keep on running for prolonged time on the vista platform. Anet already gave you reconnect feature so disconnects are manageable. After all, if you were willing to sit at your computer to mindlessly grind low level enemies, how about spending the same time checking your connection status. GW is quite happy running windowed in the background and it is quite noticeable when your screen goes black and a warning pops up, so get a book, watch some TV, hell, browse the internet, while making sure GW runs ok. If you have internet usage limits, well, that is entirely your problem, isn't it? Intenet access is very accessible (that SO doesn't sound right!) at the moment and a few cavemen with dialup shouldn't hold sway in this situation.

All in all, if you want the title - work for it, if not, go away and grind your reputation points like a good WoW-bred automaton.

PegasusHoplite28

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper
lets make this title "Defender Of Ascalon" instead of "Legendary Coffin Filler Of Ascalon"
It's the concept of the Legendary Defender of Ascalon dying more often than s/he is killing that bothers me. And it would be nice to have the option to acquire both the Defender of Ascalon and Survivor titles again.

/signed

But people have the right to complain in either directions. And people are going to complain, it's what happens when you get changes mid-game. There were probably people complaining when all of a sudden Legendary Defender of Ascalon and Survivor became mutually exclusive, as there are people now complaining about an effort to make them compatible again. It happens.

I wonder if something I help petition for actually passes.

<(^0^)>

<(^0^)>

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/

/not signed

I agree this title is obtained in a very silly way, but may others have completed this title. Why should you guys have it any other way? I mean there wasn't even a title for this in the first place, BUT Anet awarded these players that thought up of a off the wall idea to make this come true. I mean half of the titles are ridiculous anyways like the max Sweet Tooth title. Might as well say " Look I spent 1+ Mil gold for this title " . I mean 95% of the ppl that have this title just bought creme brulee's. . .. . I'm a connoisseur of spending ridiculous amounts of gold to max titles. woohoo!!!!!!!!!! Same goes for drunkard lets keep zoning and clicking to earn my title yay!!!!!

Let's make this title easier to obtain for the poor ppl in Guild Wars, I mean it's just not fair that the rich ppl have this title or the ppl who can play alot more than others. /sarcasm

If you don't like the way the title is earned then don't get it instead of complaining " Ohhhh i dont like the way the title is earned!!!!" .

again

/not signed

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by PvE Less IMO
/signed I really want a way to get LDoA and Survivor
Plus if you think about it ANet is rewarding the people with LDoA for exploiting...
Actually...

At one point, wasn't death leveling removed from the game? Then, after complaints and such, they introduced the title and reinstated death leveling. I'm almost positive that was it. ANET *fully* supports the usage of this technique. The original title was meant for those clever few who first found it out, it wasn't meant for everybody. Unforunately, everybody feels entitled to have it...

I, personally, don't have it. I don't have the 1,000+ hours to afk it. It really...doesn't bother me all that much. Feel bad for all the people who don't even have presearing!

Ambuu

Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed.

I would like to see this happen. Death Leveling takes a long time, and leveling up the charr overnight just adds to your electricity bill lol =X

But I think it would make many players become more active in pre searing, instead of being afk for hours and hours, then only to come back and curse because of disconnection.

Also, there's a large number players who think it would be neat to show off their "LDoA" and "Survivor" titles.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

/signed

the current way of getting defender is wayyyy too hard and not worth it...

Darko_UK

Darko_UK

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

England

R/

GG Making LDOA actually mean something while letting survivor become accessible if you chose to go for it to /signed

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_last_m_p
Changing it to something obtainable by simple grind will be spitting in the face of all those that spent the exorbitant amount of time it takes to get it
/agreed in a way, but it should be won by playing the game

So this is spitting in the face of all those that dont have a good enough ISP

a few years ago, GW was skill>@

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

/signed
altho i would like to see an area of lv.16 monsters, tho ldoa would be annoyed by this,
ist is the ultimite death leveling title, and is theonyl real grind imo ( forced to afk for hours daily for months) to get the title

tbh i would easily make a perme-pre character if there where lv.16 monsters, as it would still take alot of killing its a copeable dose for a title. title should be rewarded for active interactivity and not afk death leveling.
altho it is a an admirable title

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

No you shouldn't get any points for WEAK easy to kill mobs just because you want an easier way to the title. Figures someone would come up with some easy let me do it idea instead of doing the title the way it is intended to be HARD not simple. So /unsigned and I have no fear Anet will implement this anyway it would be unfair to those who have already accomplished this hard title.

kradens

kradens

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

:P guess.

R/

/signed

id finally give this title a try if it were like this.

i guess itd give me something else to do. so far i've looked at this title and have gone "meh - you gotta be psycho to do this".

roguey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

sorry to bring up a old post, but I do think ANet should really look at this. I completely agree about gaining at least 1xp for kills +5 level away.

This would make Legendary defender of ascalon accessible to more of us. Death levelling is stupid idea, full stop. The other soultion would be to add one lvl 15/16 monster.

/SIGNED

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister O
Or just change the title to Meat, since LDOAs are just meals for charrs.
Hahaha, Legendary Meat Of Ascalon. XD

Personally I'm with Lurch, LDoA is played out and discussion of it is even more so. And where's the logic in suddenly making it easy to gain a title that was awarded in the first place because people did what everyone assumed was impossible?

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

LDoA and survivor are supposed to be mutually exclusive (theyre not really since the reconnect thingie, but w/e), and this would change that.

halcyonbiscuit

halcyonbiscuit

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

W/N

good idea, but you will NEVER get survivor and LDOA on the same character. Ever. Stop trying. Anet doesn't care how many threads you make, it won't happen.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

Excellent idea dude.
/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by halcyonbiscuit
good idea, but you will NEVER get survivor and LDOA on the same character. Ever. Stop trying. Anet doesn't care how many threads you make, it won't happen.
Then make them exclusive between themselves.

Solved.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by genofreek
Hahaha, Legendary Meat Of Ascalon. XD

Personally I'm with Lurch, LDoA is played out and discussion of it is even more so. And where's the logic in suddenly making it easy to gain a title that was awarded in the first place because people did what everyone assumed was impossible?
Umm how is death levelling for 1k+ hours to get to lvl 20 in pre searing hard? You just need to visit your computer every 10 or so hours and pay for the extraordinarily high electric bill...... 1 exp per foe would not make this any harder just more reasonable.... If killing 100k + enemies is reasonable that is.

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohnzh
/signed for the >5 levels = 1exp, >10 levels = 0exp.

This way you can't do it on aloe seeds and easy stuff like that, but actually have to get to the charr. Also, it is so far unfavorable to death-levelling that those that did it the traditional way should not be bothered. DL will still be the popular way to do this. Do you know how long it takes to kill that many monsters??
Do you know how long death leveling takes?

roguey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

too long! 700+ hours?

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by halcyonbiscuit
good idea, but you will NEVER get survivor and LDOA on the same character. Ever. Stop trying. Anet doesn't care how many threads you make, it won't happen.
Lol, WOULD I dare to post picture of My titles?

/Signed

I never really like the "0" Exp anyways, and LS + LDoA should have been both accesable on 1 character since day1 introduction of those titles...

NamelessBeauty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI

Mo/

It would piss Borat off lol since he's the only one or at least the very few in GW that have BOTh tittle (before when the guild hall can be used and NPC in scrim gives exp.) lol!

Personally

/sign

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

/signed hook me up for a new title

Elisabet Ramsey

Elisabet Ramsey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

ITS A TRAP!!!!!

W/

/signed
Lol hurray for 1xp grind off bears and midgets

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned/unsigned /unsigned /unsigned /unsigned....

Hell no, people would be able to get LDoA AND Ls.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

hmm LDoA was put in the game as a reward for thinking up the death leveling thing.
Lets keep it that way.
/notsigned

Raiku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

/not signed

Its one title or the other.

Survivor or Ldoa?
Thats the choice.

Kiragi Yagami

Kiragi Yagami

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Elician Mercinaries [eLm] Leader.

E/Me

/signed. would make the title worth more than "legendary res-shrine-camper of ascalon."

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

Me/N

I like the idea but onless you can make it impossible to get both LDAO and Survivor I will say /notsigned

U Wanna Die

U Wanna Die

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/Mo

/notsigned because people will now be able to slowly power lvl in pre sear for surivior and ldoa titles

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Quote:
/notsigned because people will now be able to slowly get surivior and ldoa titles
People already have both, just take LDoA out of the game. Theres no LDoIstan or LDoShing Jea, it was put in for people that like to stay in pre-searing so take it off people when they move into post.
Perma-pre characters still have it but now people can't get the extra title over Cantha/Elona born characters

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

I would hit pre-searing so hard if they added +1 experience, the only reason i dont have that title is because of obvious time consuming reasons but it is a title i do /would want.

I have had alot of characters to level 16 in pre-searing but i dont think i could stand all the time it takes to setup a death level and then have your internet disconect durin the night and have to start all over again etc.

For the love of god +1 exp gets a /signed