Someone drops out so they then demand everyone else pays more after, after ,we have all paid; obviously knew we'd not stand for getting pushed about like gimps. 99% of runners simply get peeved when someone drops out, they do not take payment then demand more money or they quit.
Out of the literally countless runners I've had over the years from mr random wammo to those 'lady blue steel' world tour types, never been scammed, so when it happens I think it's only right to give everyone a heads up on the very few that are not trustworthy.
This scammer also mocked the ability to report scammers, I've never been scammed, never had to report a scammer, I'd like to know does it work or is it futile?
gg all.
Caught a Scamming Droks Runner *w/proof*
Cottage Pie
Bryant Again
Not allowed to post screenies of people, or post their names.
...But hey, ANet doesn't take any action against this shit, so what else can we do?
...But hey, ANet doesn't take any action against this shit, so what else can we do?
Mr. G
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at the end of the day its dishonest players...what really can they do?
Its a waste of time if you ask me to run after every person who's ever scammed
Age
When I run ppl I always take screenshots before,mid and after bit mostly at payment times.
Bryant Again
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pfff....why should they?
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WinterSnowblind
There's nothing ANet can really do about it. The player didn't break any rules, so they can't be punished for this. You made an agreement with another player, you gave them your money, and they decided to be a jerk about it. Yeah, it sucks when it happens to you, but there's really nothing that can be done about it.
If you really want to do something about it, then you should go back to the district he's trying to run people in, and warn other players there that he can't be trusted. At least then you can screw him out of getting anymore business.
If you really want to do something about it, then you should go back to the district he's trying to run people in, and warn other players there that he can't be trusted. At least then you can screw him out of getting anymore business.
lyra_song
what a dick. -.o
Keithark
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pfff....why should they?
at the end of the day its dishonest players...what really can they do? Its a waste of time if you ask me to run after every person who's ever scammed |
Firebaall
You guys are wrong.
Take the time to report the inccident. They provide an attachment section to add your screenshots.
Give them relevent information. Important ones, are the time of day and what district and server it happened on.
This is a good example of griefing other players. This is a reason for a ban. Now it's up to you to do your part. If you're not willing to take the time to report (it's a pain in the ass), don't complain about getting ripped off on a public forum.
Good luck!
Take the time to report the inccident. They provide an attachment section to add your screenshots.
Give them relevent information. Important ones, are the time of day and what district and server it happened on.
This is a good example of griefing other players. This is a reason for a ban. Now it's up to you to do your part. If you're not willing to take the time to report (it's a pain in the ass), don't complain about getting ripped off on a public forum.
Good luck!
Vilaptca
We don't allow posting of names here. I've removed all your references to their in-game name here. Its nice to try and warn people, but its forum rules.
You can repost the screenshots if you edit out his name.
You can repost the screenshots if you edit out his name.
Cottage Pie
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You guys are wrong.
Take the time to report the inccident. They provide an attachment section to add your screenshots. Give them relevent information. Important ones, are the time of day and what district and server it happened on. This is a good example of griefing other players. This is a reason for a ban. Now it's up to you to do your part. If you're not willing to take the time to report (it's a pain in the ass), don't complain about getting ripped off on a public forum. Good luck! |
Mr. G
bah, once again - this is so far from the grounds of a ban its unreal....sure it would be nice to ban them...but still a waste of time if you ask me
And that whole hing about robbing a bank is isnane...Account hacking now that is bank robbery this is...being a bit shifty at best, at the end of the day they broke no rules
And that whole hing about robbing a bank is isnane...Account hacking now that is bank robbery this is...being a bit shifty at best, at the end of the day they broke no rules
Age
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hey firebaaaaaall, what section do you think I should submit it under?
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Bryant Again
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...at the end of the day they broke no rules
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DirtyDirty
Do people do like a pay-as-you-go kind of thing to keep both players honest? Can you trade part-way through a mission so that you give the runner more gold as they get closer to the end?
Cottage Pie
thanks all, have submitted everything I can Via GWs support.
'tis a pity we can't name names when we have screenies to back it up, oh well, I guess scamming is a safe occupation.
'tis a pity we can't name names when we have screenies to back it up, oh well, I guess scamming is a safe occupation.
Diablo???
Droks Run:
Very Serious Business!
Very Serious Business!
Sir Green Aluminum
Runners unite and organize a blacklist w/ screnshot evidence!! I don't know what happens if you report a scammer but I noticed this one scammer had to buy a second account because I ignored him and then a while later I saw him using a similar name shouting stuff. I hope Anet cares enough to ban someone after getting enough support tickets about that character scamming.
Scamming runners is almost exactly like riding a taxi then not paying when you get there. Except in real life the cabbie would beat that biznatch.
Scamming runners is almost exactly like riding a taxi then not paying when you get there. Except in real life the cabbie would beat that biznatch.
Aera Lure
Its too bad the in game ignore list cannot be expanded. That or a secondary tab to Friends that we could call [fill in the blank] and place these people there. Gaile has said its not possible under the current framework to expand ignore, much less add another list. I have no idea how that can be the case, but it is.
Aera Lure
Double post error.
Firebaall
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bah, once again - this is so far from the grounds of a ban its unreal....sure it would be nice to ban them...but still a waste of time if you ask me
And that whole hing about robbing a bank is isnane...Account hacking now that is bank robbery this is...being a bit shifty at best, at the end of the day they broke no rules |
http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php
Read number one. I'd consider this fraud, and most definitely extortion.
Now, agreed it's not the most serious infraction, but a temp ban would most be suited. At the very least an account mark against this person would be accrued.
Good job on following through with the report. Everybody should take the time to take the garbage out. It starts to stink if you let it sit around.
Bryant Again
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Stupid Shizno
i really hope Anet has more important things to do then ban a player-invented "run" thats been around since the dawn of GW.
Antheus
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- Have the annoying runner demand payment in spatial chat.
- Ignore them so they repeat it 3 times.
- Report them for spamming.
Operative 14
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drago34
What the person did was wrong, but OP it's happenend to the best of us.
bart
I think you should report the fella. If Anet takes action then great but if they don't then at least you know u tried your best.
bart
Double post. Whats up with GWG these days... so laggy
Alias_X
Droks run are based on an honors system. The word of someone recorded in a chat log can only hold up so much. Even in real life, hand shakes only solidify so much, and the rest is based on honesty. Some people are jerks, it isn't a perfect community.
Abarra
To all those that say things like pah it happens or it's not a bannable offense live with it and they broke no rules...
This is the reason this still goes on. If anet banned people or put a mark on their account for scamming when reported, people would be less inclined to scam. As it is there's a whole world of scammers out there laughing at anyone who say's they'll report them because anet do nothing.
so poo poo all you like but you're just encouraging scammers. I was selling something for 50k the other day and no less than five people tried to give me 50g for it, even though anet have changed the way the cash shows up. I always check very carefully before accepting a trade but some don't. Scammers are the lowest of the low preying on people that in a lot of cases can't afford to lose the cash. It's about time it was stopped. To me this is far worse than spamming which is merely an annoyance. This is theft and fraund and patently against the games terms and conditions.
This is the reason this still goes on. If anet banned people or put a mark on their account for scamming when reported, people would be less inclined to scam. As it is there's a whole world of scammers out there laughing at anyone who say's they'll report them because anet do nothing.
so poo poo all you like but you're just encouraging scammers. I was selling something for 50k the other day and no less than five people tried to give me 50g for it, even though anet have changed the way the cash shows up. I always check very carefully before accepting a trade but some don't. Scammers are the lowest of the low preying on people that in a lot of cases can't afford to lose the cash. It's about time it was stopped. To me this is far worse than spamming which is merely an annoyance. This is theft and fraund and patently against the games terms and conditions.
jrk247
You try to cheat the system by getting a run and I know lots of people get runs, but you have to know the out comes. Sometimes you get scammed and sometimes you don't. Reporting to Anet won't do much because I'm sure they get tons of reports about runners. Runners are a way to cheat the game. If you want to take the easy way out deal with the consequences.
And GL with your report, for all the time it takes you to issue the report I bet nothing will get done.
And GL with your report, for all the time it takes you to issue the report I bet nothing will get done.
Mournblade
You should make your own site and post all the pictures and information you want about the incident, then tell everyone about it. You could start your own scammers warning forum... and then you could put up with all the crap when people started posting false accusations and doctored screenshots. And since you have no affiliation with ANet, you have no idea who is telling the truth or lying.
I guess thats why GWG doesn't let us post that kind of stuff here.
I guess thats why GWG doesn't let us post that kind of stuff here.
bilateralrope
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bah, once again - this is so far from the grounds of a ban its unreal....sure it would be nice to ban them...but still a waste of time if you ask me
And that whole hing about robbing a bank is isnane...Account hacking now that is bank robbery this is...being a bit shifty at best, at the end of the day they broke no rules |
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Personally if this is his only offense I say let him off with a warning this time. But if he is known for doing this and/or continues scamming then start with the temp bans and move up to the perm ban.
Then again, while I don't scam people, I'm unsure about if anti-scamming rules are required or not. Any exploits that make scamming easier should still be fixed( eg: a bug causes the trade window to display incorrect stack sizes), but I don't actually see the harm in allowing them since they are easy enough to avoid. Maybe put something on the login screen to educate new players about the commonly tried scams if they chose to read it.
But since there are rules against scamming, and he broke them (assuming the OP is telling the truth) so he should be punished for it.
around
And we care because?
Phaern Majes
Its my experience that most scammers are the actual people being ran rather than the runner. However I have reported a scammer to Anet via support. I had all the screenshots and everything to prove the scam. Two days later the guys character no longer existed. I think he got a permaban for it (probably not first offense).
gone
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or were you all fighting to dorks?
Hmmm...sounds like you got Effed in the A..lol
or perhaps not?
The Defiled Knight
How I have looked at situations like this is if someone is stupid enough to get scammed they deserve to get scammed and shouldn't complain about it ( stop hiding behind Anet) but..... If someone is pathetic and gutless enough to scam a person through a computer game then they deserve to cop abuse from the people that play the game, seriously scammers are freaking annoying that is true but it's part of online gaming, every game you play has them and if you get scammed accept it you made a mistake and lost something and just move on.
I simply don't trust people ingame and if I see someone in the middle of Kamadan or Lions Arch saying can i please have a free wep or i need 500 gold to get a skill, I ignore it, they could easiley put a little bit of work in and get the money for themselves.
Be friendly ingame but don't let people take advantage of your friendliness that's all I can really say on the matter.
I simply don't trust people ingame and if I see someone in the middle of Kamadan or Lions Arch saying can i please have a free wep or i need 500 gold to get a skill, I ignore it, they could easiley put a little bit of work in and get the money for themselves.
Be friendly ingame but don't let people take advantage of your friendliness that's all I can really say on the matter.
Yanman.be
Haha. Another proof that running ruins the game.
Verek
Caveat Emptor
aubee
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So, if I got this right....a scammer scammed a scammer?
or were you all fighting to dorks? Hmmm...sounds like you got Effed in the A..lol or perhaps not? |
However, advertising a service, taking money, and then not providing the service is scamming and is against the user agreement AFAIK.