Questions about pricing

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lynn yi
lynn yi
Ascalonian Squire
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1. Is there some something somewhere that can help with general pricing guidelines for weapons and offhands that are not rare-skinned?

2. In the Baseline pricing on rare skin weapons sticky thread, are all those weapons actually rare, and are there rare weapons that aren't listed there? Because in a lot of these price check threads, it seems like people are saying that certain weapons are worth a lot even though they don't have a rare skin or perfect mods and on the other hand, there are weapons that ARE on that list that people are saying are worthless even though they have good or perfect mods.

3. Does modifying a weapon from how you found it devalue it in some way? And can you even tell if a weapon has been modified? Because it was said not to mod swords if you intend to sell, but I'm not sure if they meant those particular swords or all swords in general.

4. How do you know what weapon and item skins are sought after that aren't rare? I'm guessing that this must be one of the reasons that certain items command such high prices sometimes.

Examples of why I'm asking these questions and what has me so confused with pricing:

A. Sundering Dead Sword of Warding (req9)
+7 vs elemental
inscription +5 energy
AP 20/16
Suggested: 8-12k.

B. Furious Dead Sword of Shelter (req10)
Double Adrenaline 10%
+7 armor vs physical
inscription +15% damage w/enchanted
Suggested: 5-10k.

C. Dead Sword of Fortitude (req9)
+27hp
inscription HCT of spells 10%
Suggested: 8-10k

D. Sundering Dead Sword of Fortitude (req 11)
armor penetration 20/19
health +28
dmg 15^50 inscrition
Suggested: Salvage Inscription

E. Barbed Dead Sword (req 10)
Length bleed 33%
dmg 19% while hexed (inscription)
Suggested: 4k

F. Barbed Dead Sword of Swordsmanship (req 10)
length bleed 33%
Swords +1 20%
dmg +15% while enchant (inscr)
Suggested 5k

G. Vampiric Suntouched Scythe of Warding (req 9)
vampiric
ar +7 vs. elemental
halves recharge of spells 10% (inscription)
Suggested: 5-12k, don't salvage parts

Why? Suntouched Scythe's are common aren't they? So I don't quite understand why this one is worth more.


H. Deffensive Earth Staff of Mastery
halves recharge of spells 20%
en +10
ar +5
earth magic +1 (19%)
dmg +19 while health below 50%
Suggested: 15k

With this last one is it the halving the recharge of spells without a specified category that makes it worth something? Or the fact that it's an Earth Staff? A picture was included in this one, and the staff did look pretty nice.

With the Dead Swords, is it mostly the req that makes a great difference in the prices here?

Well that's all I can think of for now, although there was a lot more I remember looking confusing to me as I was looking through threads.

Would be nice if we could get an update on the rare skins thread and perhaps another sticky that would help a little in figuring out prices.

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G. Vampiric Suntouched Scythe of Warding (req 9)
Suggested: 5-12k, don't salvage parts
The mod were not good so salvaging would be pointless. You can't compare prices from different items - the value of the swords does not relate to the values of scythes or anything else.

I hope this helps though.

Cheers
-Inzil
Well see that's what I really don't understand about this one. If the mods aren't any good on it and suntoched scythes aren't rare, then what makes it worth that much? Or is that just the base worth for any max dmg scythe?

You definitely helped me understand some things more though! Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions
Inzilbeth
Inzilbeth
Lion's Arch Merchant
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Hi lynn yi,
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
1. Is there some something somewhere that can help with general pricing guidelines for weapons and offhands that are not rare-skinned?
Reading through these posts and looking at the buy/sell subforum and guru auctions will give you the best idea of how to price things

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Originally Posted by lynn yi
2. In the Baseline pricing on rare skin weapons sticky thread, are all those weapons actually rare, and are there rare weapons that aren't listed there? ....
That thread has not been updated in a long long time. Not all rare-skinned weapons were on it - some because they were forgotten, others because there wasn't much demand for them anyways so pricing was tough.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
3. Does modifying a weapon from how you found it devalue it in some way? And can you even tell if a weapon has been modified? Because it was said not to mod swords if you intend to sell, but I'm not sure if they meant those particular swords or all swords in general.
Modding a weapon does not affect the price of the weapon. It may make it easier to sell but you will not increase the value of the weapon. So if a sword sells for 15k unmodded (or with the mods it came with) and you add a 10k mod on it, you will not be able to sell it for 25k. You can make more money by selling weapons and mods individually.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
4. How do you know what weapon and item skins are sought after that aren't rare? I'm guessing that this must be one of the reasons that certain items command such high prices sometimes.
Rare skins are items that are either hard to get or don't drop often or (or both). Non-rare things can sometimes command high prices if they are in fashion at the time - such as when skills are changed or added. This is why, for instance, earth elemental stuff has been better priced these days.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
Examples of why I'm asking these questions and what has me so confused with pricing:
A. Sundering Dead Sword of Warding (req9)
B. Furious Dead Sword of Shelter (req10)
C. Dead Sword of Fortitude (req9)
D. Sundering Dead Sword of Fortitude (req 11)
E. Barbed Dead Sword (req 10)
F. Barbed Dead Sword of Swordsmanship (req 10)
With the Dead Swords, is it mostly the req that makes a great difference in the prices here?
Yes. Requirement always affects value of items. With the r9 worth around 8-10k and the r10 worth about 4-5k, the r11's incription is worth more than the sword itself.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
G. Vampiric Suntouched Scythe of Warding (req 9)
Suggested: 5-12k, don't salvage parts
The mod were not good so salvaging would be pointless. You can't compare prices from different items - the value of the swords does not relate to the values of scythes or anything else.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
H. Deffensive Earth Staff of Mastery
Suggested: 15k
Earth elemental stuff is hot right now since the release of NF (new skills) and the skin of this staff may have been a rare one.
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Originally Posted by lynn yi
Would be nice if we could get an update on the rare skins thread and perhaps another sticky that would help a little in figuring out prices.
Yes it would be, but someone would need to take it over and it's a monumental task. I hope this helps though.

Cheers
-Inzil