Funny way to "hurt bots"

dsnesnintendo

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

This is a simple idea
In high bot level areas every 20 or so minutes there is an invasion of that areas main enemy such as mursaat or titans
The creatures would slow down and kill random people
these deaths dont count towards survivor and the only way to res is to change districts
this is what happened with the mursaat thing a while back...

just a funny idea i thought would be fun to see hundreds of dead monks on the ground

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

and yet it would add to inconvenience to the normal player besides how is it going to know if its bots or yust a whole bunch of players ?

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Bots would be quickly rewritten to change districts when this happens. But legit players would get pissed off at dying in town.

/unsigned.

Mike_version2

Mike_version2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

wouldn't do much, and would be annoying for legitimate farmers.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

lol no thanks, i still say just make signs un targetable lol

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Leave that for events.

Ecklipze

Ecklipze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

R/

I'm still waiting for your funny way to hurt bots.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Ive thought about something like this, items that have existed on other MMORPGs.

Monster summoning items

These are usually used to summon powerful monsters.

In some games they are commonly used for griefing, such as summoning powerful monsters in newbie areas, or inside shops...hehehehe.

In some games its used to level up your character.

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Having monster summoning items for use in town in GW would be really funny. Deaths wouldnt count to your death penalty, and youd stay dead until you mapped out.

AFKers and bots would have a hell of a time. lol.

VinnyRidira

VinnyRidira

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ridirian Guides

W/Me

Why not put up a squiggly written word and ask parties of one or less than party max to type in the password or be returned to outpost. This may piss off the 'legit' farmer but it would be really cool to not see tons of 'MoMe 20's not running around.

Also it may improve drops if the bots are combatted.

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

It should be made so the monster is one that does'nt move but attacks people close by like a torment claw that would kill the monk bots in one swipe (so no one spams it there should be allowed one per character per district) I know a certain signpost where I'd like to put one.

Razz Thom

Razz Thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Three Feet Below Sea [LevL]

D/Mo

Anet should just monitor where the bots are and randomly kill someone targetting signposts in the area. if there is no signpost activity for a couple of hours, turn that one off and move it to the next bot heavy area.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razz Thom
Anet should just monitor where the bots are and randomly kill someone targetting signposts in the area. if there is no signpost activity for a couple of hours, turn that one off and move it to the next bot heavy area.
And ofcourse you know everyone targeting a sign post is a bot right!

If there going to add that they may as well just add GM to the outposts.


The code on screen idea is also a bad one, bots have real life minders. Thats why killing while in town would just be a slight pain, but then again your talking about running a killing party thru outposts every 5secs to be of any effect against bots.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

We could just allow of miniature to pinch other charracter's knees.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Ive thought about something like this, items that have existed on other MMORPGs.

Monster summoning items

These are usually used to summon powerful monsters.

In some games they are commonly used for griefing
I think this says enough about why its a bad idea. As for making it a monster that can't move, imagine imagine with the monster blocking the exit in every single district (any less than that and the bots would switch district to a clear exit).

Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnyRidira
Why not put up a squiggly written word and ask parties of one or less than party max to type in the password or be returned to outpost. This may piss off the 'legit' farmer but it would be really cool to not see tons of 'MoMe 20's not running around.
We are talking about professionally written bots here. Its a fine balancing act to make the image readable by humans but not by image recognition software.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Razz Thom
Anet should just monitor where the bots are and randomly kill someone targetting signposts in the area. if there is no signpost activity for a couple of hours, turn that one off and move it to the next bot heavy area.
Yes turning off signpost targeting would screw up the current bots. However the troll cave outside droks was bot farmed at one point (I have no idea if its still being farmed) and getting the bots there looks to be a similar difficulty to making the bots able to navigate towns without signposts to click on. So if the signposts became unreliable for the bots, they would be rewritten to not use them.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

This idea is almost worse than the 1 about how crippling should cause knockdowns...

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

You want to hurt bots, and farmers, and whatnot?

Devalue the gold piece in GW. Make golds, greens, and other goodies drop like gangbusters, and ramp up cash drops insanely. Destroys RMT almost immediately, reminds people that wealth has nothing to do with whether you're an uber player or not. You want a status symbol? Go earn a Gladiator title, or somesuch.

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

D/

Here's a HILARIOUS way to hurt bots and farmers; quit buying gold.

dsnesnintendo

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

this was actually supposed to be a joke(hence the last line) suggestion, its hard to express sarcasm in text
but i do like the idea of not buying gold

Risa

Risa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Nights Watch [Crow]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
Here's a HILARIOUS way to hurt bots and farmers; quit buying gold.
Hah, I actually laughed a good twenty seconds for some strange reason...

Also, what's more important, preserving the legit players, or defeating bots?
Not as if they could be defeated anyways.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Simple answer is to fix the game so that people wont feel the need to buy gold.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

Best solution is to remove gold from the game
I don't mean gold sinks i mean everything everywhere is free

Obviously a joke but there is NO way to stop some people buying GW gold and while people will buy bts will sell

jkyarr

jkyarr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Earth, mostly

Hotties Of Ascolonian Rule

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnyRidira
it would be really cool to not see tons of 'MoMe 20's not running around.
ARGH! Enough hatin up on my profession! When I chose to be a MoMe I didn't know squat about what farming even was! I've never used a bot in my life and never will. If my combination of professions is unusually good at soloing then biscuit to me for winning the luck of the draw when I unwittingly selected the combination 2 years ago.

I like your password idea for ANY single man party leaving an outpost, but there was no reason to point a finger at a given profession combo (Mr Jealous W/Mo)... Point taken?

jkyarr

jkyarr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Earth, mostly

Hotties Of Ascolonian Rule

Mo/Me

Farming has been embraced by Anet as a legitimate form of gameplay or they would have nerfed tons of things years ago beginning with the 55hp monk.

Mind you BOTS are NOT acceptable, but the issue seems to be confused in this thread.

I use signpost to navigate out of outposts frequently because it's convenient. As I've said above I've never used nor will I, a bot. But evidently my behavior is bot-like enough that I'd certainly eat crow if some of these suggestions were actually implemented.

Anet already aggressively and proactively combats the use of bots... the point of this thread actually seems more to cross over the line and start punishing farmers too.

Answer me this, what are tomes for if not to decrease gold farming? Tome farming is perfectly legit. Anet realizes that the enjoyment of content hinges on the proliferation of skill availability. Farming tomes, or gold in the old days to pay for each of your skills, is a means to widening your skill bar and collecting worthwhile weapons, runes and insignias. How else am I supposed to equip my heroes? With 9 characters that I play and more than 10 heroes available to each of those characters, how else do you purpose I furnish them with adequate equipment?

I've earned and bought everything on my account with my own blood. While I have a strong distaste for farming because I don't consider it to be the enjoyment of designed content, I accept it, and down right count on it as an ACCEPTABLE means of provision. Cutting out the 1 plat for signets of capture or the 1 plat for the skill trainer by using tomes means I can put the needed runes and insignias on my heroes' armors all that much sooner. Kudos to Anet for understanding the grind and alleviating a portion of it!!

Fluffy Butt

Fluffy Butt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
Simple answer is to fix the game so that people wont feel the need to buy gold.
Exactly, Increase Gold/Green Drops (I'm not saying a whole lot), Lower max armor prices (10k on droks is harsh, at least half that) And increase money drops, get 8 gold from 100? Lets have *heros* not pick up gold (We spend money/time on the runes/weapons for them)

That would stop bots, because people wont need to buy money.