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cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

03 Jul 2007 at 22:11 - 41

whoooopeee..something to do this weekend besides the same ss farming!!
and another mask...gotta have them all!!!!

and yes I to wish they would extend these into the week for those of us who are otherwise occupied on the weekends......

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

03 Jul 2007 at 22:11 - 42

I'm a little disappointed I won't be getting a Dragon Mask. I was out of the country during the first Dragon Festival (a no gaming business trip). I'm sure the demon mask will be great, but I've been waiting a year in hopes for some sort of Dragon Mask (seems Dragon and Tengu, my favourites, are two I will never acquire).

Maybe next year ;_;

Healers Wisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Anaheim, CA

BoMB

N/

03 Jul 2007 at 22:14 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder79

ooohh...hadn't seen that yet...looks like they're setting it up to relive the events with re-enactments...but who says there won't be surprises we don't know about...nice earthquake...fissues opening up in the ground...maybe some appearances by the destroyers, asura, norn, etc.

This kind of event is ideal for promoting upcoming stuff...why WOULDN'T they use it...

I had factions last time around but that was a particularly hard week for me at work...didn't get in game at all...

Wait did I already say this? *scrolls up*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Healers Wisper

Damn dude you haven't even seen the event yet. BTW what if the emporors speech was interupted by say something like a large Earthquake? hmmmm.....

Oh yeah I did just not in as much detail

lol

Glad someone else is thinking like me

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

03 Jul 2007 at 22:19 - 44

how pointless

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

03 Jul 2007 at 22:39 - 45

A stack of victory tokens for the hat? ugh, dragon arena grinding ftl...

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

03 Jul 2007 at 23:00 - 46

I'm getting me a demon mask and you aren't. because I don't gotta work this weekend (for once)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Ever tested it? No? That's what I thought. It's been tested, and the evidence suggests strongly that they removed loot scaling from at least the early parts of Shing Jea, Istan, Pre-Searing, and even a small part of Old Ascalon. The thing is, it's only inactive in Normal Mode.

So don't go calling me dumb when I happen to have done testing on it.

Your 'testing' simply cannot have been done correctly, because you cannot go back in time OR know all the parameters affecting loot scaling since you are not a Dev. Yet, you persist in claiming apriori knowledge which you cannot possibly possess (differing from religion in that someone alive does know, just not you). I can measure someone's skull and claim that it actively reflects their intelligence (actually was a real life 'scientific' experiment'). That experiment is flawed because it fails to take into consideration ALL possible variables which could affect the data. They didn't know then what those variables were, just as you don't... by the way, your argument is holier than the pope. I really was talking about the loot scaling, not the idiocy of farming mantids normal mode, but that's dumb too.

When you can show me _real_ data from 2 times since loot scaling supporting your argument that loot scaling has been 'removed' from lowby areas (those 2 times would be post loot scaling, but before this removal, and presently) I might believe the argument has merit. but you cant. Did you ever consider loot scaling might just be different in areas with smaller party size caps?

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

03 Jul 2007 at 23:06 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhearted

A stack of victory tokens for the hat? ugh, dragon arena grinding ftl...

Hey, if they're as easy to obtain as the Jade Wind Orbs last year, it should be a cynch.

They'll probably be rewards for the "missions", just like the Orbs were rewards for the quests last year.

Rawk n rawl!

Rocky Raccoon

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Massachusetts, USA

Guardians of the Cosmos

R/Mo

03 Jul 2007 at 23:11 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Well, since I can't afford to buy tickets, I can still get a mask!

Damn you Loot Scaling!

Can't you just say thank you without a dig.

Thank you ANET for the coming weekend, I'll be earning my lucky and unlucky.

Stilts

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Three Reapers Guild [TRG]

E/A

03 Jul 2007 at 23:31 - 49

Hurray for the Festival! I got Factions only a month ago, and I was disappointed that I missed the previous Festival. I'm glad I'll get a chance to experience it.

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

03 Jul 2007 at 23:31 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Hey, if they're as easy to obtain as the Jade Wind Orbs last year, it should be a cynch.

They'll probably be rewards for the "missions", just like the Orbs were rewards for the quests last year.

Rawk n rawl!

Ah, I don't really know how easy the orbs were to get last year since I missed it by a few weeks.

Echuu Ishtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sacred Forge Knights (SFK)

03 Jul 2007 at 23:46 - 51

I'm pissed that I have had 70 Jade Wind Orbs taking up a slot in my storage for the past year and they won't be reused.

Oh well, still a nice momento from the past I suppose.

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

E/

03 Jul 2007 at 23:52 - 52

Yay. Nice one, A.Net. I was quite sad when I thought we wouldn't get the festival this year, it was great fun last time.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

03 Jul 2007 at 23:55 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Liar that's a Judges helmet from FFXII!

To lol or not to lol, I really can't tell because my sarcasm detector is broken.

To the event: Well, cool! I liked saving the town from ultimate destruction from the grasps, etc. Maybe there'll be those difficult quests again, maybe with better rewards? Pweaze Anet?

And of course, there's the ever awesome, ever kick-ass Dragon Arena. FPS strafe action ftw, baby.

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

04 Jul 2007 at 00:06 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

Mleh. Same old shitty games. Can't say I'm thrilled. I'll make an appearance to get the mask, but that's it.

It wouldn't kill Anet to come up with original little events instead of running us through the same shit every year.

Way to be enthusiastic. I mean Anet could not have given us a special weekend at all. Or we could have gotten double dye drop again! I mean everyone looks forward to that.

I am happy the Canthan festival is going to happen again. I am definately going to take a visit the dragon arena again. I love playing there and it gives me a reason to go back to Cantha which I really liked contrary to the amount of people who said it sucked.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 00:29 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkest

I suspect he was calling you dumb as the idea of farming mantids for their pitiful drops is hardly a method of gaining money. Of course I could be wrong.

Last year you needed Jade Wind Orbs. They dropped from everything. Mantid are extremely easy to kill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lennymon

Your 'testing' simply cannot have been done correctly, because you cannot go back in time OR know all the parameters affecting loot scaling since you are not a Dev. Yet, you persist in claiming apriori knowledge which you cannot possibly possess (differing from religion in that someone alive does know, just not you). I can measure someone's skull and claim that it actively reflects their intelligence (actually was a real life 'scientific' experiment'). That experiment is flawed because it fails to take into consideration ALL possible variables which could affect the data. They didn't know then what those variables were, just as you don't... by the way, your argument is holier than the pope. I really was talking about the loot scaling, not the idiocy of farming mantids normal mode, but that's dumb too.

When you can show me _real_ data from 2 times since loot scaling supporting your argument that loot scaling has been 'removed' from lowby areas (those 2 times would be post loot scaling, but before this removal, and presently) I might believe the argument has merit. but you cant. Did you ever consider loot scaling might just be different in areas with smaller party size caps?

I tested it just a few hours ago. After the first 5 kills all monsters dropped me something (wepons or gold). I could go do it again right now, and if it would make you happy, I could make a neat little chart.

EDIT: Too lazy to make a chart right now. However, With some further testing, I have numbers that you will most likely be able to duplicate every run you try.

Experiment done in Kinya Province (exiting from Ran Musu Gardens)

1. Must be done in Normal Mode.
2. The drops from the first 10 (sometimes less, never more) kills must be ignored.
3. All monsters following those first 10 will have a 100% rate of dropping something (weapon, collectible item or gold).

Try it yourself if you don't believe me. And if you're own speech has any meaning to you; unless you can give me more than a couple instances of those rules being broken, I am right.

Also, while true they might not have "removed" loot scaling, it sure isn't making things drop less (like it does in high level areas). From that observation, it is rather conclusive to say that it has most likely had its effect removed. Since no one can prove that the drop rates for the first 10 kills has anything to do with Loot Scaling, it is just easier, and probably right to say that Loot Scaling has been removed from that area.

By the way. The spot makes for a nice bit of dye farming, since there doesn't seem to be any form of Loot Scaling in effect.

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

04 Jul 2007 at 00:53 - 56

Aww...I've still got 250 Jade Wind Orbs from last year just waiting to be re-used....

This is going to make it even harder for my brother to get me the mask this weekend while I'm gone...

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

04 Jul 2007 at 01:16 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

meaningless data which doesnt answer the point

I guess you really don't get it... k, have a nice day

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 01:29 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by lennymon

I guess you really don't get it... k, have a nice day

Well useless trying to convince a person who decided long before they even posted. What do you want me to do, call up a person who works on loot scaling and ask them? Testing in game is the closest thing to data we can usually get.

Oh by the way. I used to kill Mantid before they introduced Loot Scaling. Back then, the Mantid almost always dropped something. Occasionally one might not drop anything, but that was rare. Might not be in a neat little chart like you'd like, but it was done before Loot Scaling. If you don't trust my memory, then too bad for you, I happen to have a very good memory. Otherwise, as they say; ignorance is bliss.

P.S. Look at this thread. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10171465

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 01:42 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaje vhanli

I'm a little disappointed I won't be getting a Dragon Mask. I was out of the country during the first Dragon Festival (a no gaming business trip). I'm sure the demon mask will be great, but I've been waiting a year in hopes for some sort of Dragon Mask (seems Dragon and Tengu, my favourites, are two I will never acquire).

Maybe next year ;_;

I dont know if it works really but I think if I give you mine, you can do a check to the hat trader and you can make it at your own. Never tested before but maybe it will work.

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 01:55 - 60

Soooooooo, ive been waiting for a year to have a chance of getting a dragon mask, now they come up with this UGLY thing, seriously im dissapointed.

Still that doesnt mean i dont care about it, i will be there and i will have my fun. but its lame not to get a dragon mask.

Anet do me a favor and implement them both, just tweak the eyes of the current dragon mask a bit and its a different one.Whats a dragon fest without dragons masks?!?!?

Cheers

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 01:55 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

I dont know if it works really but I think if I give you mine, you can do a check to the hat trader and you can make it at your own. Never tested before but maybe it will work.

It doesn't. Many people tried it when the Hat Maker was introduced.

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

04 Jul 2007 at 02:04 - 62

wooo I just love AFK weekend, my PC enjoyed that as well

murtagh deadmoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Call to the Torment {CttT}

A/

04 Jul 2007 at 02:21 - 63

I'm looking forward to it, if you were intending to play aimlessly now you have a sense of purpose

. If your whining about the event, don't go to it, not anybodys problem and no-one will likely care. Can't wait to get into the action Good Job A-Net

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 02:53 - 64

Should we expect a massive-banning after this year's Dragon Festival too?

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 03:03 - 65

Time to PLAY BALL!
remember the 5 D's of dragon fest Dodge; Duck; Dip; Dive; Dodge
and if you can dodge a demon you can dodge a ball

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

04 Jul 2007 at 03:56 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

It doesn't. Many people tried it when the Hat Maker was introduced.

Thanks for the reply Curse, I didn't know if it worked or not.

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

04 Jul 2007 at 03:57 - 67

I still don't get the mission system they are talking about, and the missions on each day at a specific time, but the MASK looks nice, and I want to get my Uber Micro Skillz title this weekend (if I don't have a test for Biochem).

TRUEgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Hampshire, USA

none

D/

04 Jul 2007 at 05:09 - 68

/\ /\ /\ Lord-UWR, is that from Magic:TG? If so, what is it??

YYYEEESSSSSSSSSSSS

Something to MAKE AN EPISODE ON!

It's too bad Steph and I wrote ep. 6.5 today, expecting no news on an event.

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

04 Jul 2007 at 05:17 - 69

If that is the mask that necro is wearing in the pic on the event page, then I am severely disappointed. Every mask up to this point has been very good in quality.

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

04 Jul 2007 at 06:15 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega X

If that is the mask that necro is wearing in the pic on the event page, then I am severely disappointed. Every mask up to this point has been very good in quality.

Heh, i thought that it was a headcrab from halfllife 2 the first time i saw that mask

Too bad it isn't one

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

04 Jul 2007 at 08:13 - 71

The mask looks ok, rather would have had something that resembles a face of a margonite ^^. Oh well we'll see in game how it looks

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

04 Jul 2007 at 10:02 - 72

Yeah it would look cool if we had margonite masks. I know a certain guildie that would love that.

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

04 Jul 2007 at 10:14 - 73

Uggh! it's worse than the tengu mask (imho) and that one was pretty bad. I'll keep my dragon mask from last year. If presents don't drop during the emperor's visits, I think I might just avoid this event altogether.

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

04 Jul 2007 at 11:39 - 74

great job, was hoping that they would do the dragon festival,

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

04 Jul 2007 at 11:41 - 75

Looking forward to this weekend. I think Anet saw the "Anet hates Cantha" thread, lol.

Time to get some cash put aside for tickets and increase lucky/unlucky titles. Hopefully i'll win some cakes too and boost my sweet tooth title.

Don't need cartography title anymore, got that, but happy for those who will be able to.

Thanks Anet.

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

04 Jul 2007 at 12:17 - 76

I missed last years Festival, and I've really been hoping they'd do another Dragon Festival this year. Now we have four yearly festivals spaced out pretty well. Great stuff. And personally, I quite like the new mask, it should look great with certain types of armour. Looks better than the dragon mask, in my opinion, I thought that was fairly ugly.

What I don't get, is all these people complaining. It's all been said before, but seriously, if you're not happy with anything the developers do, then maybe you should play a different game. They're constantly giving us great new content like this for free. Most MMO's with monthly fee's don't even get this kind of treatment, and all you guys do is moan about it.

icymanipulator

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

04 Jul 2007 at 14:10 - 77

Anyone know what demon this is supposed to resemble exactly? Can't complain until I've seen one with my own eyes but...

Anyhow thanks ANET for the festival it is much appreciated. The 30 minute windows for quests seems kind of clunky though. I mean that basically forces us to have scheduled playtimes over the weekend...kinda strange but we'll see. Off to farming for the next couple days, I guess I'll be needing the cash on hand. No bans for afk rings please!

Edit: Figured out what its supposed to be...I think...

Demon Mask: http://www.guildwars.com/images/events/demonmask.jpg
Scythe of Chaos: http://gw.gamewikis.org/images/9/94/Scythe_of_Chaos.JPG

Looks pretty close to me...

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

04 Jul 2007 at 15:36 - 78

Yay! I've always enjoyed the dragon festival and am very excited to see it return. This is really a pleasant suprise, as I didn't think A-net was going to hold an event like that anytime soon. And a mask to boot! Thanks A-net!

TRUEgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Hampshire, USA

none

D/

04 Jul 2007 at 16:12 - 79

For those who don't remember last years Dragon Festival, go here for a reminder.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...d=19408 45036

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

04 Jul 2007 at 16:54 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Also, while true they might not have "removed" loot scaling, it sure isn't making things drop less (like it does in high level areas). From that observation, it is rather conclusive to say that it has most likely had its effect removed. Since no one can prove that the drop rates for the first 10 kills has anything to do with Loot Scaling, it is just easier, and probably right to say that Loot Scaling has been removed from that area.

By the way. The spot makes for a nice bit of dye farming, since there doesn't seem to be any form of Loot Scaling in effect.

His point is that he has no money, he has no money because you can no longer farm trolls, mino's, etc and sell off all the white, purp, and gold drops to merch and make any money because they drop so few items. Yes you can kill low levels and get drops, that is fine but each drop is worth 3 gold so it is pointless. Bottom line is most ppl I know never bought gold online, bu now since loot scalling I know lots of people who have had to do it to get the stuff they previously just farmed for. The new Loot scaling deal is a bust it didn't work and it will not work (unless they also make materials cheap and no armor not cost over 1k a piece) OR THEY COULD JUST GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAAS WHICH WAS FINE!!!!