So very dissapointed

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Don't get to dissapointed as you never know there could be more add ons.It would be nice if they unerfed a lot of areas to make the game a whole lot of fun to play.Bring back May 2005.

I guess after this we could look at modding.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
GW sucks now,anet ruined it beyond belive.Anet can forget about GW2,ppl who got brains wont buy it,it offers nothing new or exciting.lol anet even found a way to screw GWEN for me since charr wont be a faction like that stupid azura or damn nords.Forums arent for expressing anything other then asskisisng devs,did i mentioned that loading times suck on this board lol.
blah, blah, blah...

oh and type better engrish please (see what i did there?)

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

remake diablo2!

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

You sure you've done everything? I'm a PvPvEr and I never have a shortage of things to do. I mean so far I'm done SF beaten the 3 campaigns on multiple characters, gone after many greens but I still have a lot to do (DoA, clear UW, FOW, ELite missions etc). Not to mention all the stuff to do in PvP.

If your bored of this game why not take a break? My buddies go to Counterstrike and Warcraft 3 if we can't think of something to kill in Guild Wars. It's not like the game punishs you if you come back.

Guild Wars has a lot of content for a game with no subscription fee.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
Guild Wars has a lot of content for a game with no subscription fee.
heh and even more in 7 weeks

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Guild Wars has a lot of content for a game with no subscription fee.
But compared to other mmo's..it lacks a lot. PvP wise, i mean you don't even need to spend a lot of time or resources fixing it, just buff bad skills and nerf good ones. Is this that difficult to do?

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
But compared to other mmo's-
Guild Wars isn't an MMO. Unfortunately, many people think that it is, and that's why so many want so much out of it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
Is this that difficult to do?
Yes, because the "bad" and "good" skills could be "good" and "bad" in the Devs eyes, if you know what I mean. It also goes beyond that.

Also, keep in mind that they have only one guy balancing them all.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Yes, because the "bad" and "good" skills could be "good" and "bad" in the Devs eyes, if you know what I mean
With the collective knowledge on these forums, even if they don't know i'm sure they could make an educated guess *wink wink*.

Delta_24

Delta_24

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
There you go. Fixed! (sadly)
Lol, very true >.< Even though there were 2000+ online when I made that estimate :P

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
With the collective knowledge on these forums
Oh how I lol'd

and do you really think the devs read skill discussions on these forums?

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

Quote:
and do you really think the devs read skill discussions on these forums?
If they did, then maybe GW would be more balanced. At least the CR rep is reading Glad's.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by spawnofebil
If they did, then maybe GW would be more balanced.
You sir, are very much mistaken...

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

EASY to say and this is the facts....GWs is DEAD....new EXPANSION....who really cares...the game is over afterwards!!!!!

ANet is banking that you'll buy GW2 and that it won't end like this did....but in 2-3 yrs it will be GW3 if they are still around!!!

Hey where is Gaile BTW.......use to be a weekly or so sighting....now lucky if it's once a month....

Is GWs the Titanic? Maybe GW2 is the sister ship

LOL

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artkin
EASY to say and this is the facts....GWs is DEAD....new EXPANSION....who really cares...the game is over afterwards!!!!!

ANet is banking that you'll buy GW2 and that it won't end like this did....but in 2-3 yrs it will be GW3 if they are still around!!!

Hey where is Gaile BTW.......use to be a weekly or so sighting....now lucky if it's once a month....

Is GWs the Titanic? Maybe GW2 is the sister ship

LOL
hahaha, who says? jeff strain said that GW:EN may not be the last expansion

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by O Blue O
I wont even go into the fact that the skills that make the game the most fun are constantly "nerfed" due to pvp exploit. (I am a PvE player, exclusively)
And that's when your post turned into an even bigger joke than it already was. You don't realise that GW since release has been a primarily PvP game. Anet obviously cares more about PvP and has to put up with PvE whiners complaining about skill balance (keep in mind that Anet has screwed it up for PvP'ers as well but that's a different story).

It really never get's old hearing PvE'ers complain.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tan Blademaster
You don't realise that GW since release has been a primarily PvP game. Anet obviously cares more about PvP and has to put up with PvE whiners complaining about skill balance (keep in mind that Anet has screwed it up for PvP'ers as well but that's a different story).

It really never get's old hearing PvE'ers complain.
JEFF STRAIN says you are wrong but what does he know?

from early intervieww

Quote:
Evil Avatar News: Guild Wars seems to be a pretty hardcore PvP type game. How does Factions supplement the core game in terms of additional appeal? Has there been an effort made to entice people who didn't like Guild Wars? Have there been any creative strides toward doing unique PvE situations?

JS: Well, I think Guild Wars has excellent PvP, especially in the online role-playing genre, in fact its the only game with well-designed well-balanced PvP; but that doesnt mean the game is a hardcore PvPer's game. Guild Wars started life as a role-playing game, and we continue to support that very strongly.
note the little bolded part?

if it were pvp they could have saved 95 per cent of the work they did.

look at it.........

there is this gigantic playground called PVE and there are a few little playpens here and there called PVP

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tan Blademaster
You don't realise that GW since release has been a primarily PvP game. Anet obviously cares more about PvP and has to put up with PvE whiners complaining about skill balance (keep in mind that Anet has screwed it up for PvP'ers as well but that's a different story).

It really never get's old hearing PvE'ers complain.
JEFF STRAIN says you are wrong but what does he know?

from early intervieww

Quote:
Evil Avatar News: Guild Wars seems to be a pretty hardcore PvP type game. How does Factions supplement the core game in terms of additional appeal? Has there been an effort made to entice people who didn't like Guild Wars? Have there been any creative strides toward doing unique PvE situations?

JS: Well, I think Guild Wars has excellent PvP, especially in the online role-playing genre, in fact its the only game with well-designed well-balanced PvP; but that doesnt mean the game is a hardcore PvPer's game. Guild Wars started life as a role-playing game, and we continue to support that very strongly.
note the little bolded part?

if it were pvp they could have saved 95 per cent of the work they did.

look at it.........

there is this gigantic playground called PVE and there are a few little playpens here and there called PVP

supa tim

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

I dont get people saying GW will b dead after GWEN or GW2 is gonna fail or not... HOW do u know? have you done research between the GW community? Have you made research between THE ENTIRE game community? I think not... Lets stop the *forecasting* and w8 till GWEN and GW2 come out.

Oh and O blue O:
1 Try PvP part of Guildwars
2 You told us all about your uber1337 titles (i realla think they r Uber1337 :P) and keep complaining about all the hard work for nothing...
Theres this new feature in GWEN called Halls Of Monuments...
I REALLY dont thing Anet will only give u some stupid Hat or things like that... I think the title on your GW1 character will still b seen on your GW2 character... And what are the benefits other than that in GW1?

Anyway... I respect you and your game experiences take a break and chill on other RPG's
GL and HF

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I agree with the OP. I just came back from my second "break" from GW, this one being 4 months long. I'm ready to wander off again as I am already fully bored and cant summon the urge to login right now. Guess I am in another indefinite break period. New content is too few and far between and too many things have been nerfed over time. Its been fun etc and it remains a great game concept - it simply has its limits once you've played through a number of times. Combining that with loot scaling, anti farming measures, economic woes and PvE falters.

There's just little purpose now beyond title grind and HoM is not enough incentive for me, since that's just changing the look of the monument in an instanced area. No longer at all worth my time in game. The real answer of the worth of titles I dont expect until we are much closer to GW2 when we know what those rewards will actually be, and I cannot fathom sticking around after I explore GWEN all that long so that I find out, which is even beginning to make me wonder if I'll bother getting GWEN. Who knows.

Its been a great game. It remains a great game. It simply has its limits.

Tozen

Tozen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

All Senses Failed [aSF]

A/N

Don't take this the wrong way, but it IS possible to care TOO MUCH about a game.

GWEN will have more titles and armor for you to grind. Otherwise, see you in GW2.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

I think GW:EN is going to be really great. I am really looking forward to seeing the new races and exploring all those dungeons. The storyline to GW:EN is going to be intersting and it will lead us right into Guild Wars 2.

At times i do get a little bored because yeah GW1 does have its limits but still it is one of the best games out there. For an online rpg Guild Wars is alot better than any MMO out in the market in terms of graphics and game play.
Guild Wars is my game of choice and I am so looking forward to Guild Wars 2 MMO.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

Extending level cap beyond 20 in GWEN would be a piece of cake. Insanely easy. Restrict PvP to level 20, i.e. those who have higher level are level 20 when PvP. Restrict old content to level 20, see above.

Done.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
Extending level cap beyond 20 in GWEN would be a piece of cake. Insanely easy. Restrict PvP to level 20, i.e. those who have higher level are level 20 when PvP. Restrict old content to level 20, see above.

Done.
Yes, it could be done. I can only surmise that because Anet has steadfastly kept Guild Wars capped at Lev 20, they decided to change Guild Wars now would be bad.

Of course, they made no promises about Guild Wars 2...

vaxmor

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

yeah >20 lvl cap = really easy, lvl 30 mending ftw!

hint: incase you havent realised if they increased the lvl cap w/ additional attribs - what do you think that would do to the entire skill system?

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artkin
EASY to say and this is the facts....GWs is DEAD....new EXPANSION....who really cares...the game is over afterwards!!!!!

ANet is banking that you'll buy GW2 and that it won't end like this did....but in 2-3 yrs it will be GW3 if they are still around!!!

Hey where is Gaile BTW.......use to be a weekly or so sighting....now lucky if it's once a month....

Is GWs the Titanic? Maybe GW2 is the sister ship

LOL
Gaile? Shes posted atleast fourty times in the last month (Including the two days of JulY)

And im ROFL'ing at your fear mongering

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Go ahead and insert my standard "leaving doesn't make any sense" spiel.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

^ Agreed. You can't "leave" Guild Wars. It's not P2P. When someone leaves in WoW, it means they've cancelled their account. When someone "leaves" in Guild Wars, they just, like, stop playing, I guess.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

People leave for a time, come back, leave again...

That's the beauty of GW. That's why it works for casual players. Hopefully, I won't feel totally lost if I leave GW2 for a bit and come back... but I trust Anet.

DarthFlesh

DarthFlesh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Gem of Destiny

N/

well even though i havent played gw too much(only 24 months X_X) im atm feeling a little bit bored with the game, now im constantly frustrated because i find nothing to do with it, im not much into PVP, and i dont feel like getting all those titles(tha heck with hall of monuments :P).

ive played many MMORPG(9 dragons, guild war, flyff, space cowboy etc...)
and in every game you need to grind, stayng hours in the computer...

sry to go offtopic, but i think GE is way better than all those games(granado espada-no it isnt mexican if someone asks -.-'') lol you can even afk grind, and the pvp is really great as well as the graphic and you control 3 characters at same time, wich makes it better.

that why until GW:EN comes out imma go play granado espada until it comes out xD

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum Duck
I guess I just don't understand this perspective on a fundamental level. There are many games I bought, played, enjoyed, and then put on a shelf when I was done. A few years later, a sequel came out, I remembered how good the previous entry in the series was, and I went out and bought it. Rinse, repeat for the last twenty years. Why does anyone expect a game to provide "something to do" for a hardcore player for the entire time it takes for them to make a sequel?

Last time I checked, the going rate for most games is about 40 hours for $50. RPGs are, for reasons I will probably never understand, expected to add enough pointless filler and grind to expand this to 80-100. Fine. Now we go online and everyone expects it to go straight into the 1000+ range for no extra cash? Why?

And before people point to tradition MMOs, I'm talking about content. Forcing us to repeat a tiny piece of content a few hundred times before moving to the next isn't adding more content. It's just extending the time for those who demand "something to do". People willing to pay for "something to do" every month or so get what they ask for. I just wanted a game worth the money I paid, and that's exactly what I got with each of the three GW chapters thus far.

And if I stop playing entirely before GW2 comes out, I'll still remember the good times and most likely pick it up off the shelf when I do see it. How does that hurt anyone?
QD -- QFT.

If Guild Wars is a game that you want to play every day, that's great. If Guild Wars is a game that you burn through quickly, maybe pick up again every now and again, that's fine, too. You're buying a game (not renting it, with monthly fees) that allows you to choose what you do. You don't need to feel "Ack, I better log in so that I get my subscription fee's worth." (I've been there, done that. No log-in should feel like an obligation!) If you want to play PvP, you can. If you want to play PvE, you can do that, too. I think Guild Wars is about choices, and about each player having a lot of options.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
People leave for a time, come back, leave again... That's the beauty of GW. That's why it works for casual players. Hopefully, I won't feel totally lost if I leave GW2 for a bit and come back... but I trust Anet.
Thanks. And I think your trust will be rewarded both with GW:EN and with Guild Wars 2, as well.

Chilly Ress

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Even high-profile non-RPG genre games like Halo 3 and Starcraft II will become a focal point for the gaming industry. GW2 will be lost within a swarm.
Are you stupid? Halo 3 and Starcraft II are being released MUCH earlier than GW2. GW2 is coming out over a year, nearly 2 years after Halo 3 and over a year after Starcraft II. It won't be lost within a swarm. GW was released during one of WOW's prime points in time and it fluorished. Your opinion is ill-informed and wrong. Sorry.

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

[oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad

R/Me

theres plenty of ppl who left WoW cuz they did it all and now its boring, so they went on to EVE. Why is GW any different?

Surena

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by O Blue O
(Hall of monuments...exactly who will care to see it besides me?) All that work, for nothing, for a title? An exclusive "something". Which will undoubtedly suck as much as any other "reward" we have seen.
WHOTF cares about your virtual achievements? They don't have any single meaning to most people, except for weak personalities. Plug off your comp and you'll notice that they are non-existant, ALL of them. Why do they have such significance in your life and why do you pressure yourself so much?

Quote:
All that work, all that time, all the promises and changes to those promises.
I wont even go into the fact that the skills that make the game the most fun are constantly "nerfed" due to pvp exploit. (I am a PvE player, exclusively)
GW has the most promising PvP concept of all "MMOs". It's retarded to believe that the game suffers because of this very important part and to blame the crowd that prefers it is infantile. PvE is easy enough, of course it can never be too easy for you people.

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Right now what is there to do in GW besides grind more titles? Nothing.
Why do you force yourself? No hobbies? Children?

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Long before GW 2 is released, the veteran players will go in search of new lands to explore, new stories to experience, and new characters to play with. I'm quite sure WOW and other MMORPG's will be more than happy to absorb the runoff.
People come (again) and go (again) and so do whiners.

Quote:
Quite frankly, I'm considering running and not looking back. I've gone as far as I can, an officer in a large guild, finished all the content, have all the equipment and armor I want. I've enjoyed my time in GW, but its time to look elsewhere for exciting new content that will not lead to a brick wall and leave nothing to do but grind titles before its done.
GW can't entertain you every day of your life. If you want weekly new content, PAY FOR IT. GW is obviously not designed to please you.

alen

alen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Slovenia

Mo/

Cant do nothing in Pve? Go play PvP and stop crying godammit!

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by alen
Cant do nothing in Pve? Go play PvP and stop crying godammit!
Indeed, afterall, PvP was the original end game for PvE characters anyway

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster
I think GW:EN is going to be really great. I am really looking forward to seeing the new races and exploring all those dungeons. The storyline to GW:EN is going to be intersting and it will lead us right into Guild Wars 2.

At times i do get a little bored because yeah GW1 does have its limits but still it is one of the best games out there. For an online rpg Guild Wars is alot better than any MMO out in the market in terms of graphics and game play.
Guild Wars is my game of choice and I am so looking forward to Guild Wars 2 MMO.
/seconded for great justice!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
If Guild Wars is a game that you want to play every day, that's great. If Guild Wars is a game that you burn through quickly, maybe pick up again every now and again, that's fine, too. You're buying a game (not renting it, with monthly fees) that allows you to choose what you do. You don't need to feel "Ack, I better log in so that I get my subscription fee's worth." (I've been there, done that. No log-in should feel like an obligation!) If you want to play PvP, you can. If you want to play PvE, you can do that, too. I think Guild Wars is about choices, and about each player having a lot of options.
Ah my dear lady Gray, how good to see you, however i believe (from a marketting point of view) that ANet is also slightly at fault for this current (and previous) upsurges in disrest in the community due to not being marketed properly.

ANet tried to market GW as a CORPG, trying to break the mold, but in all honesty? It failed... and GW has wrongly been lumped in with all the other MMO trash on the market aswell as the good MMO's (you can all decide for yourself which is which) instead of taking pride of place next to great games like Diablo 2... Personally, i think this has hindered the growth of GW and yes 4 million players or so is great, but if idiot P2P games aswell as good ones can get upwards of 14million (Lineage 2) and 8 or 9 million (WoW), then GW should be up there by miles...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Thanks. And I think your trust will be rewarded both with GW:EN and with Guild Wars 2, as well.
I surely do hope so, especially if I'm going to champion GW and GW2 on my station

Qual

Qual

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark, Karup.

[PuG]

W/E

I am taking a break from GW atm, I havn't really played for several days.

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

I agree with the sentiment that once you have run through the story then the only objective in the game to expand characters is to chase titles.

That for me, however, is enough to keep me interested, as a completist by nature chasing titles is fun, though some of themare somewhat labourous.

I havent got bored yet, and though I don't play constantly I tend to be on at least a few hours each day. Primarily I would say I'm PvE, though recently I've being doing some PvP. So I'm still entertained.

I accept that there is not enough content to keep people here constantly, eventually everyone will get burnout, but I'm sure that they will venture back at some point, like with any good game, people drift in and out.

I played Baldur's Gate over several years, gettign the upgrades, and would continue to play if I hadnt lost all my files. GW is the same to me, with no monthly fee I see no reason why I wouldn't continue to play this indefinetly.

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

To the Op:
You are a no-life.
I would just remind you that GW is a game, and as such, not a replacement of achievements you missed in real life.
The only thing a game is made for is to provide fun during a certain amount of time.
Work? Time? You, and only you, chose to devote that much time to this game. You finished it? Then switch to another game until the next expansion.
You can only blame A-Net on false advertisement: they said that would be a skill>time played game, which actually is no more the case, since grind is required to be more powerful to other people with overpowered grindable skills, and some details, like say, a variable hero I still fail to find (advertised on Nightfall manual).

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by glountz
To the Op:
You are a no-life.
I would just remind you that GW is a game, and as such, not a replacement of achievements you missed in real life.
The only thing a game is made for is to provide fun during a certain amount of time.
Work? Time? You, and only you, chose to devote that much time to this game. You finished it? Then switch to another game until the next expansion.
Harsh, but fair


Quote:
Originally Posted by glountz
You can only blame A-Net on false advertisement: they said that would be a skill>time played game, which actually is no more the case, since grind is required to be more powerful to other people with overpowered grindable skills, and some details, like say, a variable hero I still fail to find (advertised on Nightfall manual).
now the skill over time spent is still there, especially for those that pvp competitively (and yes, GW is still a competitive game as there is monetary rewards for winning) and to be competitive, buy the PvP editions

around

around

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy

I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3

R/

Why would you want a higher level cap?

Yes, your numbers will get bigger, but the enemy levels will have to be increased to compensate. Thus, we arrive at the situation we have now, just with bigger numbers.