one of my toons has lvl8 ss and lvl5 lb and i cant even begin to think about the grind its gonna take to lvl up both titles for other toons, so why not make the ss/lb titles account based like the luxon/kurzick titles? sure you have to reach a certain ss lvl if your elonian born to continue on with the story line but havent there already been enough people bitching and complaining about that too? so why not do away with the ss lvl cap to continue on in elona and just have both lb and ss titles account based?
i realize that certain types of repetition are all apart of rpgs but come on, continuously getting in a wurm and mindlessly killing undead and abaddons servants on different toons is just plain m o n o t o n o u s.
account wide lb/ss titles
korcan
Antheus
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And these titles are apparently not account wide due to role-playing or continuity reasons. Then again, people love to grind, so I guess that's where the future is.
Shaz
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Even though I only have one PvE character anymore with both titles already maxed, I can see how suck it must be if you have like 8. If not both, then at least make LB account based.
Even though I only have one PvE character anymore with both titles already maxed, I can see how suck it must be if you have like 8. If not both, then at least make LB account based.
JeniM
If you don't enjoy leveling characters maybe you should have less
I personally couldn't stand grinding max SS and LB for more than my one PvE player, and thats why i have one.
However that rant at you aside i have to agree on making more titles account based
Specially grinds and gold sinks
/signed
I personally couldn't stand grinding max SS and LB for more than my one PvE player, and thats why i have one.
However that rant at you aside i have to agree on making more titles account based
Specially grinds and gold sinks
/signed
bilateralrope
Personally for things like this I divide titles into two groups:
- Task based titles where they have a list of tasks you need to complete, but you only need to complete each task once. Eg vanquisher, explorer, mission completion.
- Grind based titles where you need to keep doing the same task over and over until you max out the title. Eg treasure hunter, SS, LB, any PvP title.
For the task based ones I can see having the title character based because they show you did those things on that character. But for the grind based ones, I can't see why they shouldn't be account based.
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- Task based titles where they have a list of tasks you need to complete, but you only need to complete each task once. Eg vanquisher, explorer, mission completion.
- Grind based titles where you need to keep doing the same task over and over until you max out the title. Eg treasure hunter, SS, LB, any PvP title.
For the task based ones I can see having the title character based because they show you did those things on that character. But for the grind based ones, I can't see why they shouldn't be account based.
/signed
korcan
for the most part, i could care less about titles but the lb/ss titles are directly tied to the effectiveness of pve only skills. for that reason alone, ive been grinding my lb and ss titles to a lvl that make the skills tied to them effective. all titles that are tied to pve only skills should be account and not character based.
scrinner
I sign this for Light bringer only. Sunspear itself is only a grind for the last 2-3 ranks. For the storywise its fine. However light bringer is a grind completely and since its not required for the storyline, Making it acccount wide is the perfect thing to do.
Onarik Amrak
I maxed out both titles on one character...
I don't really want to do it again for all my other ones, too.
I don't really want to do it again for all my other ones, too.
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Personally for things like this I divide titles into two groups:
- Task based titles where they have a list of tasks you need to complete, but you only need to complete each task once. Eg vanquisher, explorer, mission completion. - Grind based titles where you need to keep doing the same task over and over until you max out the title. Eg treasure hunter, SS, LB, any PvP title. For the task based ones I can see having the title character based because they show you did those things on that character. But for the grind based ones, I can't see why they shouldn't be account based. /signed |
/signed the summary *g*
Etta
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I maxed out both titles on one character...
I don't really want to do it again for all my other ones, too. |
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lyra_song
this idea would break the design of nightfall, since character progress through missions have certain sunspear requirements.
MagmaRed
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I'd rather see better rewards offered for the LB bounties. Getting 2 points per kill seems kind of low in most areas. Offer 4-8, like SS bounties scale,and the grind is cut down considerably.
I reached max level of SS with NO, none, zilch, nada grind/farming of points. I did the bounties at every shrine, every time I entered a zone. I did all the quests that offered points as a reward. Granted, Vanquishing supplied a lot of points people not doing that would get, but its certainly an option available.
LB I have done moderate farming for, and am only at rank 7, and need 24.5k yet to max it
More points at the bounties is all they need to do (imo).
I'd rather see better rewards offered for the LB bounties. Getting 2 points per kill seems kind of low in most areas. Offer 4-8, like SS bounties scale,and the grind is cut down considerably.
I reached max level of SS with NO, none, zilch, nada grind/farming of points. I did the bounties at every shrine, every time I entered a zone. I did all the quests that offered points as a reward. Granted, Vanquishing supplied a lot of points people not doing that would get, but its certainly an option available.
LB I have done moderate farming for, and am only at rank 7, and need 24.5k yet to max it
More points at the bounties is all they need to do (imo).
william1975
SS is not so bad you tend to get up pretty quickly, and its far easier to get the points onit than on LB, for example my main character has 45,000 SS but only 22,000 LB,
/signed as if they make one account based the other should be too.
Also with the Faction titles bing account based it woudl make sense to have these account based too, grind with one character is mroe than enough.
/signed as if they make one account based the other should be too.
Also with the Faction titles bing account based it woudl make sense to have these account based too, grind with one character is mroe than enough.
MithranArkanere
The truth is that people want them maxed out fast.
And there is one fastest way to max them all:
- Sunspear: Hard Mode Undead Hunt out of Gates of Desolation.
- Lightbringer: Hard Mode Domain of Secrets.
So if you want the title, you go there and repeat again and again the same run.
That's not really very fun.
At least they could add some repeatable quests giving 100..400 points or something.
And there is one fastest way to max them all:
- Sunspear: Hard Mode Undead Hunt out of Gates of Desolation.
- Lightbringer: Hard Mode Domain of Secrets.
So if you want the title, you go there and repeat again and again the same run.
That's not really very fun.
At least they could add some repeatable quests giving 100..400 points or something.
Onarik Amrak
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I'd rather see better rewards offered for the LB bounties. Getting 2 points per kill seems kind of low in most areas. Offer 4-8, like SS bounties scale,and the grind is cut down considerably. I reached max level of SS with NO, none, zilch, nada grind/farming of points. I did the bounties at every shrine, every time I entered a zone. I did all the quests that offered points as a reward. Granted, Vanquishing supplied a lot of points people not doing that would get, but its certainly an option available. LB I have done moderate farming for, and am only at rank 7, and need 24.5k yet to max it More points at the bounties is all they need to do (imo). |
I wouldn't mind if they did take this into consideration, change it to be more like the Kurz/Lux titles. (Without the insane amount required for max)
So they make the new amount for max like 100k for both but add up what your current characters already have and make it account based.
Seems like a good compromise, what do you think?
Kratos Angel
/signed, especially for LB title. It is totally retard for players who have 3 or more characters to maximise all of them, it has non sense, it's no more GW but a grind like level grind in WoW, that's why It really should be based on account, and probably make each level longer to get.
But I agree they could let SS likethat as you can get a decent level not so hardly, but LB really sucks, I really hope GW : EN won't do the same fault of making several titles like that, or it won't be that interesting o.O.
But I agree they could let SS likethat as you can get a decent level not so hardly, but LB really sucks, I really hope GW : EN won't do the same fault of making several titles like that, or it won't be that interesting o.O.
Maximumraver
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this idea would break the design of nightfall, since character progress through missions have certain sunspear requirements.
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bilateralrope
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this idea would break the design of nightfall, since character progress through missions have certain sunspear requirements.
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Then take into account that when I took my characters (dervish and paragon) through there, by the time I had gotten there and capped all nearby elites for my primary profession, I was already over the limit required.
Vinraith
Brilliant! Let's take it a few steps forward and finally strip grind out of this game altogether. You log in for the first time, immediately see the ending cinematic, and get a free über character with the best equipment, skills, and everything else in the game. Yeah, that'd be fun. Down with grind!
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darknight2169
how many quests are their that need you to get a LB or SS title? Oh soz, lost count, must be to many. Owell, I already got 1 char with LB rank 5, lets skip em all!
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hypernox
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Personally for things like this I divide titles into two groups:
- Task based titles where they have a list of tasks you need to complete, but you only need to complete each task once. Eg vanquisher, explorer, mission completion. - Grind based titles where you need to keep doing the same task over and over until you max out the title. Eg treasure hunter, SS, LB, any PvP title. For the task based ones I can see having the title character based because they show you did those things on that character. But for the grind based ones, I can't see why they shouldn't be account based. /signed |
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October Jade
Have you even considered that if SS/LB were to become account-wide, the rank requirements would most likely skyrocket?
You'd be stuck with two more titles in the same vein as Kurzick/Luxon faction. Perhaps one player in a thousand has reached the highest tier of either of those two lines.
I can't imagine the amount of incessant whining to be seen if this change ever happened.
/not signed
You'd be stuck with two more titles in the same vein as Kurzick/Luxon faction. Perhaps one player in a thousand has reached the highest tier of either of those two lines.
I can't imagine the amount of incessant whining to be seen if this change ever happened.
/not signed
BenjZee
no way
i think it would be stupid; especially when u could say farm sunspear/lb points in wurms on hard mode and such.
maxing the title would mean u could make a noobie and have him have the high rank sunspear skills.
alot of people would abuse the quest rewards aswell. especially when a tyrian peerson or canthan gets loads os ss points for a primary quest in elona.
its fine as it is
i think it would be stupid; especially when u could say farm sunspear/lb points in wurms on hard mode and such.
maxing the title would mean u could make a noobie and have him have the high rank sunspear skills.
alot of people would abuse the quest rewards aswell. especially when a tyrian peerson or canthan gets loads os ss points for a primary quest in elona.
its fine as it is
stefan_moore
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Couldnt have said it better myself
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odly
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Personally for things like this I divide titles into two groups:
- Task based titles where they have a list of tasks you need to complete, but you only need to complete each task once. Eg vanquisher, explorer, mission completion. - Grind based titles where you need to keep doing the same task over and over until you max out the title. Eg treasure hunter, SS, LB, any PvP title. For the task based ones I can see having the title character based because they show you did those things on that character. But for the grind based ones, I can't see why they shouldn't be account based. /signed |
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Yarly
Always agreed with this.
/Signed
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bilateralrope
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Have you even considered that if SS/LB were to become account-wide, the rank requirements would most likely skyrocket?
You'd be stuck with two more titles in the same vein as Kurzick/Luxon faction. Perhaps one player in a thousand has reached the highest tier of either of those two lines. I can't imagine the amount of incessant whining to be seen if this change ever happened. /not signed |
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no way
i think it would be stupid; especially when u could say farm sunspear/lb points in wurms on hard mode and such. maxing the title would mean u could make a noobie and have him have the high rank sunspear skills. alot of people would abuse the quest rewards aswell. especially when a tyrian peerson or canthan gets loads os ss points for a primary quest in elona. its fine as it is |
seut
all titles with ingame benefits should be account wide, otherwise people who play a variety of professions to fill in what is needed in certain situations are being disadvantaged
MithranArkanere
Well.
They could make it so they are 'character wide' until you get to level 8 for Sunspear and 6 for Lightbringer.
Once a charater gets to such numbers, it will use the highest value amongst al characters in the account.
They could make it so they are 'character wide' until you get to level 8 for Sunspear and 6 for Lightbringer.
Once a charater gets to such numbers, it will use the highest value amongst al characters in the account.
Likelytodie
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Max account based titles are supposed to be time consuming. After 6 months of at least 5 hours of faction farming a day - reaching up to 15-20 hours (toward the end), I finally achieved the Savior of the Kurzicks title. Now, your want to make it, so that I could've gotten the same credit toward Koabd on every character for around 10 hours of work (Half the time on the double weekend)? The only way this would work, is if the max title was made much more difficult and time consuming to achieve. Sadly - I fail to see how the Lb/SS titles are comparable to Sotk/Sotl, or any account based title for that matter.
^^ I agree with that
Max account based titles are supposed to be time consuming. After 6 months of at least 5 hours of faction farming a day - reaching up to 15-20 hours (toward the end), I finally achieved the Savior of the Kurzicks title. Now, your want to make it, so that I could've gotten the same credit toward Koabd on every character for around 10 hours of work (Half the time on the double weekend)? The only way this would work, is if the max title was made much more difficult and time consuming to achieve. Sadly - I fail to see how the Lb/SS titles are comparable to Sotk/Sotl, or any account based title for that matter.
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More points at the bounties is all they need to do (imo).
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Patrick Smit
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all titles with ingame benefits should be account wide, otherwise people who play a variety of professions to fill in what is needed in certain situations are being disadvantaged
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/Signed