"Preventing hack account attacks" idea

AirFlame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

I know there is lot of h4xs in the net but all are just keyloggers and viruses to steal your account even some ppl try to brake passwords to some people accounts because they have a email adress they have registred on. My idea is to add 2 informations:

1st one will be every time you will be logging to your account you will be leving a ip adress and time when you was logged like:

Last time you was logged: Yesterday 16:17 ip: 212.130.133.111
or
Last time you was logged: 16'th June 20:17 ip: 73.10.153.1

Maybe make a alert option in gw will be a nice idea. You will be able to set range of ip's that you are loging from like 83.0.0.0 - 83.255.255.255 and when anyone that is out of that range log in you will be informed on the email or there will be a popup when you log in like : "Someone logged in from ip that is out of range that You have set up in alert menu"







2nd will be add information when you log in how many incorrect logins was made to your account like:

Someone or You have entered incorrect password and try to log in. At 16'th June 20:17 ip: 73.10.153.1


Sorry for bad english and thank you for reading.

Hawkeye

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Imperial Guards (TIGI)

Mo/

Well, hackers can't get anything if you play it honest and don't download third person software. At the point in which a player violates the contract they signed, why should arenanet help them in anyway? They're perfectly justified in not doing anything at all.

Dervish Warrior

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

Legacy Of Angels

D/

i agree with Hawkeye, and it sounds too much like something that is from runescape
so, a no from me

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

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not going to work wat happens when u are at a friends place and then get home with all these messages?

and wat happens if u have more then 1 comp or sumting

AND! wat happens if u get a new comp/intrenet u can't log back in to change the ip address thingy?

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Maybe u could use the MAC address(es) to prohibit access from other computers. This works well if u use one or few computers that u own.

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

that still leaves your friends computers out

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

No you could add his mac address to the list of safe users, you just have to think of it in advance, when u would use the OPTIONAL MAC address restriction

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

wat happens if u don't no there mac address? the fact is u can't get keyloggers if u just play the game like u are ment 2 and not download BOTS

"No you could add his mac address" ^^^^^

wat happens if its a she

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Or you could not give out account information or download bad programs...don't think they're allowed to give out IPs like that...

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

dam straight, don't download 3rd party programs in the first place and u don't have to worry about MAC PROTECTION

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rain Slip
wat happens if u don't no there mac address? the fact is u can't get keyloggers if u just play the game like u are ment 2 and not download BOTS

"No you could add his mac address" ^^^^^

wat happens if its a she
You call him and ask him. Additional (optional) safety is not bad, especially in times like these. I don't download such stuff, but I would encourage Anet to develop such security for their users. Chances to be hacked are maybe slim when u don't download stuff, but it is not impossible. Making chances smaller by simple security rules would not be bad to my opinion. After all U don't want to loose your xx months old account. But from the clients side some care is needed as well. But I guess it is part naivety from the not so paranoid, that use 3rd party software for certain things (like damage calculators, build simulators etc).

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

ok here is the facts, my dad (who runs our home computer) works out of town from monday 2 friday everyweek....

if i don't no the mac address how we ment to play on my friends accout from my house????


people just have to be careful and virus scan anything and everything they download as well as running regular virus scans on the computer system.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Like I said it is optional, u CAN use it if u want, it is not obligatory. But u can ask once the mac address of the network card in that computer and you are safer for the time being. IP is not a real solution, maybe mac addressess are not brilliant either, but better then nothing

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

hmm mabey having 1 mac address and if u log onto your accout with another mac address u have to answer a question or somthing like wats your pet name???

just another though.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

these are options too, define your own question, and answer it. Had that in mind as well, as i have it for several services.

Rain Slip

Rain Slip

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights Austrailia

W/A

the point wats your pet name was an example

myswheels

myswheels

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Join Date: Oct 2005

XoO

E/Me

This is a good idea, more needs to be done to prevent account hacks. There are plenty of other ways to have your computer compromised besides running third party software, the more information we have the better. Its not like it hurts you in any way if anet gave you the option. If you use multiple machines, either don't use the alert or have an option to add multiple address ranges.

Unless there was an update regarding this in the past year or so, in gw's current state if someone finds out your email address they can guess passwords to their heart's content without anybody ever knowing.

thetechx

thetechx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

the mooninites

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Well, hackers can't get anything if you play it honest and don't download third person software. At the point in which a player violates the contract they signed, why should arenanet help them in anyway? They're perfectly justified in not doing anything at all.
not true.
awhile ago one of my friends account got hacked and he didnt even have an internet connection or even play GW for a couple months. and he never d/led any 3rd party programs for it either

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

I think this answers this thread

I have a dynamic IP.

MudBone

MudBone

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Citadel of Immortals

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
I think this answers this thread

I have a dynamic IP.
Dynamic IPs have a range that could be put in, all ISPs/areas work in a certain range. My IP is static, always on, never changes even if i were to turn all power off.

myswheels

myswheels

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

XoO

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
I think this answers this thread

I have a dynamic IP.
and? so don't use the IP alert option. wouldn't you want to know if there were 200 failed login attempts since you last logged on?

AirFlame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
I think this answers this thread

I have a dynamic IP.
Well dynamic ip have a range too.

For others that think that they are safe because they don't download 3rd party programs or bots or some modifications. Think again... Windows have many uncovered holes. Btw you can always get infected by surfing the web by a new virus that your antivir don't have in database or get to a site that place a tracking cookie to your compiuter. After that port scans, holes scans etc. For people that know what they doing is not hard.