Pre-Searing?

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

I never hear discussion of pre-Searing farming... probably because it isn't as profitable as other places by any stretch of the imagination. Nevertheless, what are some efficient builds for farming the beasts of this blissful land?

As it so happens, I'm running a Mo/Me Catacomb dye farmer specifically for the 2x damage inflicted by holy. I am enjoying it so far, but the drops seem erratic. One run I'll get two or three, then I won't see another for two or three runs. :|

I'm interested in getting a build for hunting the Charr, specifically Charr Bags.

Despozblehero

Despozblehero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

Well in all honesty, its presearing... For farming, you get nothing of real value except maybe dye or a charr bag which overall theres better ways to make money... as fo Builds you get so few skills, having any "build" is pretty much all the skills you got anyways. as for fighting charr... best to go with a partner. As a Monk though I been able to go charr hunting with my bear since lvl 10 and smite/wand from behind with no problems. but you already accepted your secondary (I havent) and i havent tried with mes secondary... doubt its impossible just give it a shot, although Id stick with a partner until lvl 14+ cause chaots are really bad for you ;D

darrengordon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Guild of Gordons

R/E

Hi there, pre-searing can actaully be very profitable, a guildie of myn loves it and has level 20 char in there specifically for farming. He sells crap swords shields for 200k plus (pre-sear money double value of norm game money by the way) its a weird little comunity! I think there a web site called presearing.com or something which tells you all about it and has the famrs and auctions etc.

Reason

Reason

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

California

E/

Pre-searing can be VERY profitible, just working on my LDoA I cranked out over 110k in 4 days. Although that was at the start of the CSK craze, but between kits and bags, dont be surprised to make 100k every week or so, just in pre.

Just to add, if you ever plan on making a pre char to farm charr, go with a ranger, I can do solo boss runs in 3 min and I am only lvl 17.

GL to ya, and ya it is presearing.com

c ya there.

My Green Storage

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Arizona

My Blue Storage

N/

Both of you are talking noise out of every hole you have.

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He sells crap swords shields for 200k plus
Name me one sword in Pre that can be sold with post searing money.

You might wanna say "20k" or even "2k" to make it sound more believable

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dont be surprised to make 100k every week or so, just in pre. See above.

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I can do solo boss runs in 3 min and I am only lvl 17. GG bragging on owning level 10 bosses with a level 17 Ranger and probably a level 16-17 pet.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Green Storage
Both of you are talking noise out of every hole you have.


Name me one sword in Pre that can be sold with post searing money.

You might wanna say "20k" or even "2k" to make it sound more believable


See above.


GG bragging on owning level 10 bosses with a level 17 Ranger and probably a level 16-17 pet. Dude are you just a flamer? He wants honest advice, not a snivelling child. GTFO.

I'm a post-sear player, but I know how hard it is to clear the Shrine, even at level 17. I saw a level 18 Ele/Ranger with a level 20 Dire Pet clear it; you might be level 18, but you have 7? Armor.

For pre-sear, I'd personally suggest you take Mo/E, then take the Protection Prayers quest along with the Bandit Raid quest, and just farm and refarm Alain and the other level 3 bandits outside the Abbey.

I made this video a long time ago (on my prev PC so not great graphics) showing the run
Clicky

Hope this was some help to you ^^

darrengordon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Guild of Gordons

R/E

hi there My Green Storage as requested heres that one sword, havnt got time to waste so didnt look too hard unlike you i guess, hehe, this is the first rare auction on pre sear where sword is currently up for about 135k pre-sear so 270k real game. http://presearing.com/index.php?opti...5&topic=3246.0

hope this helps, by the way if you cant say anything good or helpful then please dont waste the space and keep you little baby mouth closed

phool

phool

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Green Storage has no clue. A 11-16 14^50 +18% vs charr purple sword would be pretty much the CLS of pre. An axe of around 6-19 with very bad mods I recently got 50k for.

Charr salvage kits with 5 charges go for around 6-9k, charr bags go for around 1-1.2k. Blacks go for about post price -1k, whites go for pretty much the same price. You can get 3k for minor vigors, around up to 2.5k for the more popular minors like minor fire. a few k for stuff like +27 hp grips. Ales are 100g each. 1:2 preost gold.

But yeah, soloing the bosses is easy from as low as about level 7 depending on class and by the time you're level 17 I imagine stuff would pretty much just die when you look at it. Never got over level 14 personally so wouldn't know.

silent but true

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

OOUS

N/E

hi does anyone have any info about farming pre seering?

Reason

Reason

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

California

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Green Storage
Both of you are talking noise out of every hole you have.


Name me one sword in Pre that can be sold with post searing money.

You might wanna say "20k" or even "2k" to make it sound more believable


See above.


GG bragging on owning level 10 bosses with a level 17 Ranger and probably a level 16-17 pet. First off, it is a lvl 20 pet

Secondly, imagine getting 1 CSK each day for 10 days straight, ZOMG at 11k each WTF can we do basic math? 110k every week and a half...hmmm, imagine that. Try to learn about a pre economy and spend more that 9 seconds in there to post you mending wammos.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

My Green Storage,

Some of the wealthiest players in Guild Wars generate their income from pre-searing. These guys don't blink twice when spending millions for the "right" items in pre.

If you truly want a rude awakening, you should have seen a couple weeks ago when the blackmarket was in full roar. There's more profit in pre-searing than many parts of post. Even more so, now that Loot Scaling is brutally active.

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

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i got a character going for LDoA, and i've seen some insane stuff in pre searing. just doing some research on pre, i saw an axe with a charrslaying mod (max damage, as far as pre goes) which was 14^50 going for an ungodly amount of black dyes. i've seen screenies of people with 100plat in their inventory and a STACK of black dyes. crazy stuff in pre, but it's all worth it, even if there's no storage. i can't wait till my mez gets LDoA, i'll just hang around pre bein all cool.

Fuzzy Taco

Fuzzy Taco

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Level Twenty One [HAX]

N/

charr salvage kit.

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

presearing.com unfortunatly doesnt have much info on farming there.

Plz keep the thread active and post some profitable runs and builds

AngeloM3

AngeloM3

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

RI

Diciples of Rage [RAGE]

I'm not much of an "experienced" pre farmer... but I just started.

I got a Mo/E... I farm the Bandits, Bears, Catacombs, Spiders. Havent tried yet with the Charr.... but I dont think a Mo/E is a good Charr farmer.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

What makes Bandits worth farming? I can destroy them with my Mo/Me.

Conjure Phantasm + Banish + Shattered Delusion ftw.

silent but true

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

OOUS

N/E

apparantly ppl farm dyes from bandits during bandit raid quest because supposedly pre seering has less items so more gold chance

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

ONLY during the Bandit Raid quest? Because if so, I already completed (I believe). In either case, I was planning on starting a W/R or a R/W for farming Charr and the likes as I don't believe my wee Mo/Me and her 7 AL armor could stand up to their brawn.

By the way... which would be better in the long run? W/R or R/W? I am already running a W/R in post-Searing (previously W/Mo) so it would seem kind of redundant to create yet another Warrior, thus I'm leaning towards having Ranger primary. But would it make an outstanding difference?

Lurid

Lurid

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

R/Me seems to be a popular choice.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

I still feel iffy about this 12 AL though.

phool

phool

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

If you have access to the /bonus bow r/w has a pretty big advantage from about level 9. I found w/r easier for charr but when I ran w/r the charr AI was easier to solo than the r/w charr AI (they had it where 1 of the charr would follow and the rest would stay behind).

TedTheDead

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Sons of Metal

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I am fond of a M/E and farming the Skale outside Fort Ranik. You can take on all of them at once with Shielding Hands and Healing Breeze even at a lower level, and clear them out with a Firestorm. I have gotten alot of dye (including blacks) and alot of "Improved Sale Value" blues (50g+ each) from them. An average run takes maybe 2 minutes so the turn around can be alot.

DDeathblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Lahti, Finland

W/

Farming in P-S is stupid in it's own way. Orcourse it may produce some money (and if You stay there longer, Defender of Ascalon rank), but why don't you rather go to post-searing and hunt monsters that really drop something valuable.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by DDeathblade
why don't you rather go to post-searing and hunt monsters that really drop something valuable. Because people can make the same or even more selling stuff in pre in the same time it takes to farm something rare and try and sell it.

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DDeathblade
Farming in P-S is stupid in it's own way. Orcourse it may produce some money (and if You stay there longer, Defender of Ascalon rank), but why don't you rather go to post-searing and hunt monsters that really drop something valuable. Because I'm sick of post?

GGNORE;GET OUT OF MY THREAD

The.D0pefish

The.D0pefish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Germany

Matchup Close [yPrn]

Me/

if you're fighting against the charrs the rin blade with +7 rs vs. charrs and a quest award shield with +10rs vs charr will help a lot....
+17 armor is quite nice in pre-searing :P

corey54321

corey54321

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Artic Marauders [TAM]

W/

perma pre chars are usualy made by expericed players and in pre ascalon its a lot less ways to farm also u never c bots and u really need 2 accounts to take advantage of pre farming i use both of my accounts to farm char 1 opens the gate then leave then i farm them and i farm the hunters ales also u can sell them for 100g ea in pre or u can save 10000 of them and move them to post for max drunkard title

So Dont Knock Pre Farming is for people that have got bored with post and have done every thing in post

oh_oh_joe

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by corey54321
u really need 2 accounts to take advantage of pre farming i use both of my accounts to farm char 1 opens the gate then leave then i farm them How do you use 2 accounts at the same time? o.O

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

You can use two computers like me or I think there was a thread in community works on running two GW at once on the same pc.If you have excess to a second monitor that also helps.

Rainman

Rainman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

none

P/

you guys should try mesmers some time

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

can u post some quick/profitable runs for Mesmers and builds?

BLOODGOAT

BLOODGOAT

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

long a

Mo/

I'm really stuck on deciding what secondary profession to choose for my ranger. As far as I know, secondary Mesmers can't use Empathy, but they also have things like Conjure Phantasm, Backfire, and Ether Feast. Necromancer has Deathly Swarm which deals cold damage. Cold damage = double damage vs. Charr? I'm not sure... but if it does, then it could be a pretty powerful spell and would make Necromancer a fine secondary choice. But there is also the nuking potential of Elementalist. Since I have a pet, I generally use it to distract mobs, and when you get a good mob and slam it with Firestorm, the whole thing will generally die. But without Energy Storage, I'm going to be raping my energy which I will probably need, as well, for self-healing. They all have advantages but drawbacks as well.

phool

phool

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by TedTheDead
I am fond of a M/E and farming the Skale outside Fort Ranik. You can take on all of them at once with Shielding Hands and Healing Breeze even at a lower level, and clear them out with a Firestorm. I have gotten alot of dye (including blacks) and alot of "Improved Sale Value" blues (50g+ each) from them. An average run takes maybe 2 minutes so the turn around can be alot. I haven't found this run very effective but it's easy and pretty entertaining. Pets are an asset in gathering aggro - you can lock your pet on a mob to maintain aggro from the south west skales while aggroing the north east skales, which speeds the aggro up a little.

silent but true

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

OOUS

N/E

I dunno if my spot is any good, but today I farmed bandits by barradins estate, at the botton left of the map and got 1 black, 2 greens and 1 purple in run.

oh_oh_joe

oh_oh_joe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Power Surge [pS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by phool
I haven't found this run very effective but it's easy and pretty entertaining. Yea, I like seeing them all die from firestorm. I do it on my Monk/Ele also, yet I rarely get dyes.

oblivion god

oblivion god

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guild Hall

Desolation Lords [DL]

P/

i personally am a big fan of pre searing my first few months of gw were in pre sear but the bandit farm with the protection prayers quest and the bandit quest with the strongbox outside of ashford abbey really produces a lot of dyes got 2 blacks in one run with my mo/n one time

Dogma Blutlust

Dogma Blutlust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany...

W/

are the presearing armors inscriptable too?

corey54321

corey54321

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Artic Marauders [TAM]

W/

yes they are

Human slayer

Human slayer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Kentucky, USA

Passionate Kiss of Life [KISS]

W/

i too am putting a mesmer to the pre searing title..i jus wouldn't mind having some help with builds and what not...what are good ways to level up after level five from the charr at the gate quest. that can get me to level 8 i've been told but charr farming after that? or dye farming..either one wit an idea of what to bring would be good. right now... i'm Me with no secondary and i would prefer to wait and get a secondary at level 16 so is there anything i can get without actually getting a secondary that would help me out on soloing dyes or other stuff?

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

For quick experience gain farming for a Monk/Ele or Ele/Monk. I would run around and agro as many bears as I could in the folbees fair area. They follow when in agro range. Then hit them with both AOE spells firestorm and holy wraith? (Could be wrong on the monk AOE spell been awhile since I was there). Zone into the catacombs and return over and over and over.