I think Abaddon's 'crime' of gifting tyria with magic was a noble act with good intentions, and he was much too harshly punished by the others whom erased all mention of his existence. I also love that his whole story of gifting mortals with magic only to be punished is an obvious reference to Prometheus, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to the mortal man (only to be punished by having his liver eaten daily by an eagle).
Apart from that, I'd probably go for Balthazar, seeing as I'm a pyromancer and the luxon tradition I love appreciates nomadic strength, which is most closely identified with him.
Six Gods - Who is your God and why?
Raminus
Sigon
Abaddon untill the end of time. Alot of good posts were made by others in reguards to him , i'd like to add tho. I don't believe he was suplanted or that Kormir achieved godhood. It's too fishy. Kormir started everything by reading the Apocrypha , she was afterward tainted by daemons and it was not anyone else but her who got sucked into the realm of torment. Afterwards she of all people was marked for ascention rather then us even tho we were the ones doing the fighting. I believe Abaddon used her a facade to escape his prison unnoticed. i refuse to believe that the God of Knowledge's plan of escape was "Kill them all! Destroy everything!" no matter how stylish it looked.
No matter i shall stand in the cities of GW 2 and preach in his name.
p.s. Don't you think the Margonites look awesome? It would be so cool if we get to become one eventually.
No matter i shall stand in the cities of GW 2 and preach in his name.
p.s. Don't you think the Margonites look awesome? It would be so cool if we get to become one eventually.
Konig Des Todes
I think Kormir was chosen over the other heroes (aside from game mechanic purposes) because she's a known leader and, more importantly, she was put against madness and taint longer than anyone else without turning mad. As for why she was pulled into torment alone, it might have been because Abaddon saw her as a threat and wanted to isolate/try to kill her. As for Abaddon's Plan, I doubt it was "Destroyer everything" and more "I want to break free!" (Yes, reference to Queen) which would turn to "I want revenge!"
Just my thoughts on your reasoning.
Just my thoughts on your reasoning.
Sigon
But in such dire matter the god's don't intervene themselfs. Last time they fought it took all five of them to defeat Abaddon and inprison him. Now that he is breaking free they leave mortals to do it? Nine mortals no less. Gameplay aside what exactly stopped every creature in any given zone to attack us simultaniously? Something is not right when Abaddon had the forces to break free and easly shatter the defenses of the forgotten , but didn't.
"I want to break free!" (Awesome band Queen...) , but he was no fool. He was cast down once , breaking out the conventional way would've got him the same treatment. No i believe he had it all planned out , "Plans within plans..." (Dune reference) so the whole Nightfall comotion was to get mortals to venture to him and not just any mortals , but those with the capabilities to survive and supposedly ascend. Kormir was exposed to the realm of torment a little longer then us , but we've been enduring the torment for just as much. She is however the perfect facade and one that he had tainted already. Kormir was loved throughout Elona and was well known to people like the Zaishen and the Lion Guard so her ascention would allow for worldwide worship. It was an act , the way she looks right before running to absorb the power , it was like she was having a conversation with herself. Maybe Abaddon devoured her soul and went about to play out the act. Note that Kormir's statue is shown with Aby's helmet , no other god displays his predicecor's items. So i believe Abaddon is free , hiding behind the facade that is Kormir's hollow shell planning how to take revenge upon those who were once his brothers and sisters. Revenge is a dish best served cold after all.
In summation let's be fair , neither the asura , nor norn , or sylvary look half as awesome as Margonites . Charr get a free pass for being an old and established race.
"I want to break free!" (Awesome band Queen...) , but he was no fool. He was cast down once , breaking out the conventional way would've got him the same treatment. No i believe he had it all planned out , "Plans within plans..." (Dune reference) so the whole Nightfall comotion was to get mortals to venture to him and not just any mortals , but those with the capabilities to survive and supposedly ascend. Kormir was exposed to the realm of torment a little longer then us , but we've been enduring the torment for just as much. She is however the perfect facade and one that he had tainted already. Kormir was loved throughout Elona and was well known to people like the Zaishen and the Lion Guard so her ascention would allow for worldwide worship. It was an act , the way she looks right before running to absorb the power , it was like she was having a conversation with herself. Maybe Abaddon devoured her soul and went about to play out the act. Note that Kormir's statue is shown with Aby's helmet , no other god displays his predicecor's items. So i believe Abaddon is free , hiding behind the facade that is Kormir's hollow shell planning how to take revenge upon those who were once his brothers and sisters. Revenge is a dish best served cold after all.
In summation let's be fair , neither the asura , nor norn , or sylvary look half as awesome as Margonites . Charr get a free pass for being an old and established race.
Konig Des Todes
Firstly, I disagree with the nine mortals idea. It is shown in a couple cinematics, especially in EN, that the heroes come with the PC even if they are not in the party. Which means minimal in lore, Kormir, the 10 Henchmen, and the 24 Heroes that fought Abaddon - thus 35, not 9, mortals who defeated Abaddon from a lore perspective.
As for Abaddon being able to break free but not doing so - are you so sure? By various Forgotten dialogue, it seems that the demons only recently broke free, so the Forgotten would have been better off than what it seems you think.
As for the Statue of Kormir, the statue is made by humans. By all our known knowledge, Kormir is the only one humans know have supplanted another god. Excluding the PCs.
As for Abaddon being able to break free but not doing so - are you so sure? By various Forgotten dialogue, it seems that the demons only recently broke free, so the Forgotten would have been better off than what it seems you think.
As for the Statue of Kormir, the statue is made by humans. By all our known knowledge, Kormir is the only one humans know have supplanted another god. Excluding the PCs.
Sigon
35 is still a very small number when we concider the GW 2 trailer. If Zhaitan has the power rivaling that of a god and it was too great for the human race united to stand against how come 35 people go out and defeat Abaddon? His power is constant and hadn't diminished one bit in the centuries of his imprisonment.
Even if they recently broke they had the numbers to take the various gates and go loose upon the world right of the bat. And when you fight , how come other daemon groups who are within visual distance don't come to see what is all the comotion.
Okay i admit defeat on that one , but the helmet was awfully deteiled and true to the orriginal if they only have 35 people's word for it.
Even if they recently broke they had the numbers to take the various gates and go loose upon the world right of the bat. And when you fight , how come other daemon groups who are within visual distance don't come to see what is all the comotion.
Okay i admit defeat on that one , but the helmet was awfully deteiled and true to the orriginal if they only have 35 people's word for it.
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35 is still a very small number when we concider the GW 2 trailer. If Zhaitan has the power rivaling that of a god and it was too great for the human race united to stand against how come 35 people go out and defeat Abaddon? His power is constant and hadn't diminished one bit in the centuries of his imprisonment.
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Abaddon's power isn't necessarily constant and unchanging. In fact, along with the effect of the chains, there's a suggestion that some of his power was stripped from him in his imprisonment - namely, that before his imprisonment he had water among his responsibilities along with knowledge. After his imprisonment, that seems to have disappeared while water magic has fallen within Grenth's domain. As for why the gods imprisoned Abaddon rather than killing him outright... they may not have had a suitable mortal to take his place until Kormir came along.
Finally, it doesn't actually seem as if Abaddon was actually trying to get out of the Realm of Torment, and the implication that I'd picked up was that he actually couldn't. His aim wasn't actually to leave, but to meld Tyria and the Realm of Torment into one big Nightfallen Tyria. He wasn't trying to escape the prison, but to make the prison he was in bigger.
Sigon
If the landmarks are to be believed Abaddon passed the time by creating demigods (THose big stone faces) and then killing them when they rebel.
As for the Avatars , why did they have to wait till the gate of Madness before giving that blessing? They were awfully oblivious to their sibling breaking free for a damn long and Nightfall wasn't exactly without fanfare.
I do think he might have been doing that , adding chuncks of reality to his own demention.
As for the Avatars , why did they have to wait till the gate of Madness before giving that blessing? They were awfully oblivious to their sibling breaking free for a damn long and Nightfall wasn't exactly without fanfare.
I do think he might have been doing that , adding chuncks of reality to his own demention.
Konig Des Todes
The Avatars didn't appear until they were called upon. Which only goes with the "hands out" theory. As Draxynnic said, there needs to be a "replacement" - when Abaddon first fell, there might not have been one, and the Avatars might have been debating all the way through, needing a mortal to be at Abaddon upon his death, and choosing which would be best fit. In the end, Kormir - who suffered more madness without going mad longer than any other good guy - was chosen for the job.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
Sigon
How can we be certain she wasn't mad? You don't need to wear you underwaer as a hat to be mad.
Also she was awfully unhelpful with Malix.
Also she was awfully unhelpful with Malix.
Avatar of Healing
I'd follow Dwayna and Melandru. My gw2 character will be a sylvari monk (assuming they exist.) If not, then I guess a human monk and a sylvari druid-like thing.
miriforst
i know they arent "gods" but....
go mursaat!
go mursaat!
Lourens
Melandru all the way just because I got a female ranger as main 
I love that mursaat picture =]
I love that mursaat picture =]
miriforst
from the mursat rally 
(off topic, yes the black widow i use as avatar is a texmoded one :P (destroyer yay))
(off topic, yes the black widow i use as avatar is a texmoded one :P (destroyer yay))
AggroHappy
God of Secrets ftw.
ischuros
Since my first character, who I still play, was a Necromancer, Grenth is the obvious choice. I also like the lack of deception, stripping the world of it's gilded and misleading aspects, in contrast to Lyssa.
Lakdav
Lyssa without a doubt. The duality of beauty and illusion is the wisest and most clever irony meld together into 1 goddess.
By her scripture i would say she would be a better judge than Grenth is. She is the one who knows an illusion and trickery when she sees one, for she is the essence of tricks itself.
Life is good only as long as you see beauty in it, or hope to see beauty once again. And as we know, hope is an illusion about a better future.
Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, thus making the entire concept of beauty
into a chaotic matter that defines what people may live for.
How do you know that Grenth's thruth is the truth indeed? It may very well be just another illusion of the greatest truth. That truth and justice is an illusional, imaginary system to seek order in chaos...
ups, this got out of hand a bit sorry. and of course im a mesmer primary.
By her scripture i would say she would be a better judge than Grenth is. She is the one who knows an illusion and trickery when she sees one, for she is the essence of tricks itself.
Life is good only as long as you see beauty in it, or hope to see beauty once again. And as we know, hope is an illusion about a better future.
Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, thus making the entire concept of beauty
into a chaotic matter that defines what people may live for.
How do you know that Grenth's thruth is the truth indeed? It may very well be just another illusion of the greatest truth. That truth and justice is an illusional, imaginary system to seek order in chaos...
ups, this got out of hand a bit
sorry. and of course im a mesmer primary.
Hyozanryu Sanada
Da great dwarf!!!!!!!! Everyone come to anvil rock!!!!!! Plus you get god mode which is real power .
mathiastemplar
Balthazar.
'nuff said.
'nuff said.
narcist the ranger
i would have to go with either Grenth or Melandru. Melandru because im a ranger so yeah ^_^ and Grenth... well do i really need 2 explain why i'd choose him?
Kokuyougan
Grenth, because I'm a necromancer and that's what we do.
He represents neutrality and attempts to judge people based on the truth, a practice I have almost based my life around.
He represents neutrality and attempts to judge people based on the truth, a practice I have almost based my life around.
KageNoShi
Grenth, because I used to always stop at his shrine during droks runs for good luck on my sin.
Tommy's
Dwayna and Melandru, for some true natures harmony ^^
Lyssa would get 3rd place. Ce n'est pas une pipe!
Lyssa would get 3rd place. Ce n'est pas une pipe!
aymanh04
Balthazar all the way man, he is my man because i am a derv and chop people for their evil doings
Rhamia Darigaz
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Del
Melandru, because I'm a dirty hippie.
vdz
Balthazar & Melandru, build for the kill, pure strength, battle tactics and a killer instinct, quite simply born to kill. No need to trick anyone with some fancy spells.
Freedom III
Definitely Lyssa...can't go wrong with thinking people to death.
AndroBubbles
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BaconSoda
Lyssa is most definitely the god I would worship. Duality is everywhere in life, whether we can see it or not. Greed or philanthropy, work or play, risk or guarantee, all are decisions we make everyday.
Furthermore, Lyssa is the god which I think best represents humans in Guild Wars 2. Humans being the most deceitful and two-faced race. Or, at least as I see it.
Furthermore, Lyssa is the god which I think best represents humans in Guild Wars 2. Humans being the most deceitful and two-faced race. Or, at least as I see it.
Levothar Kingdom
Lyssa ftw
I'm a Mesmer and I'm gonna pysch you out in the end
I'm a Mesmer and I'm gonna pysch you out in the end
Kosar The Cruel
I would have to say I'd follow Dwayna. I've never had a problem helping others in my Guild/Alliance.
ValaOfTheFens
Grenth. My toon Vala's father died when Orr sank and ever since then the only truth she's been able to get behind is the one found in the grave and the Underworld. Sad really but that tragedy made her into the Necromancer she is today, living at the Eye of the North and fighting the Charr scourge with the Ebon Vanguard.
aeronox
Lyssa all the way.
Ariovist Lynxkind
For me, Dwayna and Melandru... Air and Earth... Life and Nature...
I always have a habit of saying 'Melandru guide my footsteps, Dwayna guide my heart.'
also, come on, angels
Sidenote: I don't get this whole 'Abaddon innocent victim' stuff considering he and his margonites struck first. I mean, seriously, I doubt the Gods would have imprisoned him just for giving out magic....
I always have a habit of saying 'Melandru guide my footsteps, Dwayna guide my heart.'
also, come on, angels
Sidenote: I don't get this whole 'Abaddon innocent victim' stuff considering he and his margonites struck first. I mean, seriously, I doubt the Gods would have imprisoned him just for giving out magic....
Grim Lich
Grenth. Necromancy is the best way to make friends.
Also my Dervish love Avatar of Grenth. It's a made match.
Unless there was an Abaddon option. I do realize he's not a good guy and everything, but damn, those Margonites look awesome. Being sterile is alright if you have that much power.
Also my Dervish love Avatar of Grenth. It's a made match.
Unless there was an Abaddon option. I do realize he's not a good guy and everything, but damn, those Margonites look awesome. Being sterile is alright if you have that much power.
Neo Atomisk
Kormir or Grenth, based purely on philosiphy.
...with truth and justice for all.
...with truth and justice for all.
Madruk Dhuum
I saw a few other oddball posts here like this one is going to be so I figure I'd go ahead and post: were I more of the roleplaying type I would say that most of my characters actually worship Dhuum (well alright, though I'm not really a roleplayer a few of them are named for him lol). The reason being is that although he's a not presented in a good way, I agree with his order of things--no undead specifically, which would likely have saved everyone a lot of strife. Plus, I just think the guy is cool. :P That said, my necromancer is a devout follower of Grenth for the simple reason that he allows her to perform all aspects of her job, as is my ritualist.