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I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

12 Jul 2007 at 11:03 - 1

Check the screenie I took in American District 1 at 1pm GMT+2

SO what's so interesting in Altrumm Ruins to farm? Greens? Gothic Swords?

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

12 Jul 2007 at 11:06 - 2

3million players 80% bots

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

12 Jul 2007 at 11:08 - 3

Bots have been farming there for ages.

Arcane_Penguin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Land Downunder

The Shadowheart Vanguard

R/Mo

12 Jul 2007 at 11:08 - 4

I've noticed bots in the Hot Springs (one near LA, forgot the name) I've never seen bots there before, yesterday however, it was flooded with at least 30-40 bots.

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

12 Jul 2007 at 11:09 - 5

Thats alott of monks O_O
Maybe they'r striking? :P

Edit: Bergen hot springs has been busy with bots ever since Hard Mode.

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

12 Jul 2007 at 11:10 - 6

LOL /agree

Do bots need to buy another account to have so many chars or what? I don't understand the concept of the bots -_-

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

12 Jul 2007 at 11:11 - 7

They just go out and kill those 3 warden groups just outside for drops. It mostly junks but when you do it over and over and over and over and over x 1,000, the golds do add up.

Oh I forgot! to mention this. "oh no! not another bot farming thread again!" angry red face and all that.

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

12 Jul 2007 at 11:12 - 8

That's nothing... I accidentally came there and it was probably the rush hour... there wasn't a free space... 1 billion bots there and then until I prepared myself for a screenie most of them were gone (maybe they know when someone is taking a screenie so they hide

)

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

12 Jul 2007 at 11:13 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etta

Oh I forgot! to mention this. "oh no! not another bot farming thread again!" angry red face and all that.

Hehehe I wanted to make an impact :P

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

12 Jul 2007 at 11:21 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etta

They just go out and kill those 3 warden groups just outside for drops. It mostly junks but when you do it over and over and over and over and over x 1,000, the golds do add up.

Is this how the bots work out of Altrumm? Just the starter-room mobs? If so, I wonder if I'll have less of a chance of accidentally getting caught in a bot sweep if I'm actually doing a circle run of most of that explorable with my monk? I've already been accidentally banned once (Bergen XP run), and I'm afraid to farm Altrumm Ruins for fear a 2nd ban - even accidental - may get my account taken away.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

12 Jul 2007 at 11:22 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

That's nothing... I accidentally came there and it was probably the rush hour... there wasn't a free space... 1 billion bots there and then until I prepared myself for a screenie most of them were gone (maybe they know when someone is taking a screenie so they hide

)

And they know when your naughty, and they know when your nice. They know when you are sleeping and they know when your awake!

And old location, 'theys' has been there for ages.

Every time you post a bot thread a farmer makes a new bot; stop the madness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

Hehehe I wanted to make an impact :P

Next time don't, seriously DON'T!

I wanted my statement to make an impact :P

Miral

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hell. AKA Phoenix, AZ

The Gear Trick [GEAR]

W/A

12 Jul 2007 at 11:26 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

Check the screenie I took in American District 1 at 1pm GMT+2

SO what's so interesting in Altrumm Ruins to farm? Greens? Gothic Swords?

not new at all.... it has had the nickname botrumm ruins

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

12 Jul 2007 at 11:34 - 13

Mo/Me 13

lol

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

12 Jul 2007 at 11:48 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by onerabbit

Mo/Me 13

lol

I noticed that one as well.

A newbie lost in a sea of bots? Maybe the only human player there.

Oh yea...

NOT ANOTHER BOT FARMING THREAD!

Kinn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Englandshire, England.

The International Association of Mending Wammos

R/

12 Jul 2007 at 12:31 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by TideSwayer

Is this how the bots work out of Altrumm? Just the starter-room mobs? If so, I wonder if I'll have less of a chance of accidentally getting caught in a bot sweep if I'm actually doing a circle run of most of that explorable with my monk? I've already been accidentally banned once (Bergen XP run), and I'm afraid to farm Altrumm Ruins for fear a 2nd ban - even accidental - may get my account taken away.

Bold emphasis mine. Could you elaborate on the banning? I'm worried because I've only just made my first 55 monk and I thought I'd practice on the Bergen Undead run - I've been doing it on and off for a few days now. Am I likely to get banned just by being spotted there as a solo Mo/D20? I always wear my guild cape and sunspear title so as to stand out from the sea of "Afsdsa Dfdsfa" - type tattoed monks.

thor hammerbane

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Side of the Moon

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid[nap]

12 Jul 2007 at 12:40 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

Bergen hot springs has been busy with bots ever since Hard Mode.

Bergen hot springs has been busy before factions came out, let alone that hard mode jazz.

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

12 Jul 2007 at 12:59 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinn

Bold emphasis mine. Could you elaborate on the banning? I'm worried because I've only just made my first 55 monk and I thought I'd practice on the Bergen Undead run - I've been doing it on and off for a few days now. Am I likely to get banned just by being spotted there as a solo Mo/D20? I always wear my guild cape and sunspear title so as to stand out from the sea of "Afsdsa Dfdsfa" - type tattoed monks.

I was going for Legendary Survivor outside of Bergen Hot Springs with my Mo/D. Long story short: don't repeatedly farm the mob of Skeletal Rangers on the hill just outside Bergen Hot Springs over and over again. Bot or not. In Hard Mode with an xp scroll, that one hill mob of Skeletal Rangers gives you over 2000 xp, and it only takes one cast of SoJ to get down. Good place/mob for Survivor title acquisition. Bad place if you want to play on your account the day after you get it.

FWIW, I had my account returned to me overnight so it wasn't that big of a deal. More of an inconvenience than anything else. Just letting you know that repetitive mob farming is a "bot-like activity" and could put you at risk. My suggestion is to make your farming runs something longer than one mob out the door -> repeat. That's what bots do, and that's what you shouldn't (especially in high-bot areas where ANet is closely monitoring).

In my case, taking a longer, circular Warden farm route around Altrumm Ruins explorable with my Mo/D - ie. my usual run - will probably keep me safe from bot sweeps (if bots are really just farming the one group of Warden mobs out the door -> repeat), but there's no way in hell I'm going to test that theory. Not with GW:EN just around the corner.

Friday

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

[DVDF]

12 Jul 2007 at 14:30 - 18

Some ideas for not looking like a Bot to those watching for them:

Vary your route every time you go out. 3 seconds longer is not "income killing"

Bots don't use the mouse: so use mouse-click movement and not your keys.

Bots don't use the mouse: so activate your skills with your mouse.

Do not use the Town sign posts to find your way to the door.

Don't do the same run for 14 hours non-stop. Do some runs, go to your Guild Hall and use the merchant there a few times, chat to guildies, go farm another spot for a few runs, go do a quick mission (even if you've already done it) for half an hour then come back etc etc.

Bots are running on pre-set scripts which dictate the precise key-strokes to exit a town then kill the target mob/s then back to town then to merchant/rinse and repeat ad nauseum. So "bot like behavior" is probably doing the exact same thing until your eyes bleed. Vary your routine randomly and I doubt you'll have a problem.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

12 Jul 2007 at 16:16 - 19

also most bots are ran on the trial keys. that way they don't have to purchase an account.

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Jul 2007 at 16:26 - 20

Ah, Great. Altrumm ruins used to be good and not so bot infested, but now they have taken it over, leeched up all the good drops, and it'll be nerfed. Once again bots ruin a good thing.

I've got like, 2 sup vigors, 8 sapphires? and Tons of gold drops and materials from this place, not to mention like 2-3k from every run (Before HM and Loot scaling) So yeah, it drops/(dropped) good things.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

12 Jul 2007 at 16:32 - 21

My guess would be they are killing Stonereap and Zarnas, thats what I farm with my N/Mo. Im just curious what their build is...

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

12 Jul 2007 at 16:36 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coridan

also most bots are ran on the trial keys. that way they don't have to purchase an account.

Thought they banned trial accounts from trading a while ago...?

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

12 Jul 2007 at 16:46 - 23

Are there bosses just outside there?
Maybe they are farming tomes in hardmode.
I don't know.
And why is that Mo/Me is still so powerful for farming?
Honestly I think Monks are the most broken class in this game.
And Inspiration should have most of it's skills in the mesmer primary.
Are there people skill testing this game still? lol

Da Mad M00

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Mo

12 Jul 2007 at 16:46 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coridan

also most bots are ran on the trial keys. that way they don't have to purchase an account.

Yeah. The are gonna get a run and everything and an elite monk tome and the right skills within 10 hours

I don't think that is the way it works

silara_jorinset

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

AoFT

E/Me

12 Jul 2007 at 17:22 - 25

Yeah its surely too efficient to have to waste a load of time on trial keys. It would take a good few hours to get to farming level (especially for bots such as the afore mentioned ones for the ruins which is a decent way into factions). Doubt they are boss farming (after all Stonereap has enchant removal which he'll use if close), way too risky. Most likely the same one/two mobs over and over as thats reliable enough to be left running without having to check-up on (you can tell some users don't check that regularly due to the time it often takes when something like a granite bot screws up and is just going in circles constantly).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Are there bosses just outside there?
Maybe they are farming tomes in hardmode.
I don't know.
And why is that Mo/Me is still so powerful for farming?
Honestly I think Monks are the most broken class in this game.
And Inspiration should have most of it's skills in the mesmer primary.
Are there people skill testing this game still? lol

Does that make those builds that can solo the smites in uw broken? What about any other farm combination such as E/D earth tanks? Considering its probably only the first few mobs any profession could be botted as its just tailoring the build for the mobs at an appropriate point. Its probably just monks as the 55 build has been around so long, only requires one campaign and is likely easy to script..

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

12 Jul 2007 at 22:04 - 26

There is also a few at The Temple of Balthazar when I go there.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

12 Jul 2007 at 23:00 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

My guess would be they are killing Stonereap and Zarnas, thats what I farm with my N/Mo. Im just curious what their build is...

Umm your guess is wrong! They don't farm bosses, bots just farm general drops, they choose locations because of types of mobs and easy farming, then they farm crap over and over and over! That white armour merching for 50g may not be worth much but getting 500 adds up 25k

pnumm

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Crystal Overlook!

[CPSU]

Rt/R

13 Jul 2007 at 00:20 - 28

I saw a bot in Dragon's Throat today, I guess he was just on his way to altrumm ruins though.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

13 Jul 2007 at 02:00 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

LOL /agree

Do bots need to buy another account to have so many chars or what? I don't understand the concept of the bots -_-

As Gaile said, some bots use trial keys and hacked accounts.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

13 Jul 2007 at 02:26 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift Thief

As Gaile said, some bots use trial keys and hacked accounts.

And most people know that's partly a lie, trial keys can't trade, trial keys only last 10hrs. Its a scape goat for Anet; No we don't make money off botters buying new accounts they use trial keys. How can they when they can't trade? defeats the purpose of being used by a gold seller.

Sadly the hacked is true, but its not 100% of the numbers, they still buy the good olde fashion way, hell one gaming mag even quotes chinese gold farmers buy in bulk from some suppliers.

Don't d/l the latest 3rd party program to get an extra edge and never go to a site being spammed ingame.

van

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

13 Jul 2007 at 02:29 - 31

I dont know what there is to farm but most recently I was in Rihlohn Refuge(spelling is off I think) but there seemed to be alot of N/As, with bot names, going into Flood Plain. and I did notice they all had bot like actions hint hint Anet. But I am really wonderiong what are they farming out there?

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

13 Jul 2007 at 02:35 - 32

Attrium Ruins has wardens to farm. Not AT ALL new. I've been farming there for at least 9 months (there are mobs with only traper rangers, hammer warriors and restoration rits, no mesmer wardens at all). They used to be great (pre loot scaling) for materials like hides, fur, cloth, and leather.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

13 Jul 2007 at 02:39 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by van

But I am really wonderiong what are they farming out there?

Your thinking like a player, all there farming is a mob that doesn't have Mesmers (mostlikely) and are easy to kill with a simple build.

As for the drops, it aint greens, golds, rune or purples. It's just drops. Merch fodder, at 50g each adds up when your farming 24/7 30days straight.

AceeBlueEagle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

ASH -Ashes of Humanity

R/

13 Jul 2007 at 05:07 - 34

Yeppers. They farm the wardens and repeat/rinse. I watched a lot of them zone in and then appear over in Marketplace to sell to a non-faction controlled merch.

AceeBlueEagle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

ASH -Ashes of Humanity

R/

13 Jul 2007 at 13:45 - 35

I noticed in Nightfall that they are using Shadow Form Eles/Necs running bots now as well.

With names like an epileptic seizure on the keyboard, they are kinda not that hard to miss.

I soooo wish I had admin rights in Gwars sometimes...