Guild Wars on PSP in the future?

MirandaKali

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Just checked this out on i4U.
While I'm certain they would'nt develop a full version of GW for the PSP, they could possibly make a "dumbed down" version with cross over content.
Funny...Just the other day I told my friend that if the iPhone ran Guild Wars, it would push me over the edge and I would just HAVE to buy one...Now the same goes for the PSP..

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The PSP can run the internet, but very slowly.

Whats more likely is when the PSP2 comes out with the built in phone etc it might be GW compatible.

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An MMO on a handheld gaming device? Craziness.

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http://kotaku.com/gaming/apple/wow-p...one-276333.php <---WoW on iPhone.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
An MMO on a handheld gaming device? Craziness.
Seriously, and people have problem with lag in GW now. I doubt it'ld be an MMO. They'ld probably do a PvE type thing where you could attain content that you could take into the full version of GW.
The did something similar with Dungeon Siege.

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God I hope not, I do not want to have to buy another platform to play a game. If they are gonna force us to buy a sony product to play GW or GW2 I hope it is the PS3, not that I want to be forced to goto the PS3, But it is much better then the PSP options.

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Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...

That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!

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That doesn't count! That was just periodic screenshots sent from a mac to an iphone! The poor guy had trouble even hitting 'enter world'.

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GW on my PSP joy.....

MirandaKali

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...

That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!
I think it was this bit that gave me the impression that GW MAY have a place in the PSP's future..
"Together with the Internet-enabled PSP, we're confident that SCEI and NCsoft can develop unique and compelling online experiences that will be found on no other platform.”
Again, I emphasize "may". Guild Wars is a popular title and companies are always looking to expand their franchises into any viable medium.
I also stress, again, that personally, I highy doubt that a full PvP capable version on GW would be produced. PvE adaptations of PvP titles have been done on handhelds in the past. (admittedly, sometimes with little success).
Doom and gloom, you say? That is a matter of opinion. Poor evidence, you say? It would appear to me that there's at least enough proof to allow for conjecture.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...

That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!
And how you got PS3 exclusive out of the press release given that the first paragraph says...
Quote:
NCsoft Corporation, the world’s leading developer and publisher of online games today announced an exclusive game development deal with Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. that provides for NCsoft to create several online games for SCEI’s PlayStation platforms, including PLAYSTATION 3 and PSP, accessible through PLAYSTATION Network. The announcement was made today at the E3 Media and Business Summit taking place in Santa Monica, California.
is beyond me. The press release goes on to say that the games would be created from both existing IPs as well as new IPs. No where did it say which IPs where going to be used.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...

That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!
You presume far too much. When you work there maybe you can tell us whether or not they have 'no experience with console gaming' and not sound like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

People don't start working at the companies they 'currently' work at straight out of the womb you know. Yes, yes! I can confirm it! Games are made by people... More than one to!

Zinger314

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Originally Posted by SigurdTheBalmung
And how you got PS3 exclusive out of the press release given that the first paragraph says....
I don't take the press release as gospel, and I refer to more clear sources...

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It just said NCSoft has an agreement to make some exclusive MMO's for the PS3. It did not say anything about porting over existing MMO's to the PS3.

GW is heavily designed around Microsoft Direct X. They would have to redesign the graphics engine.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I don't take the press release as gospel, and I refer to more clear sources...
The fact that you refer to IGN as a clear source perplexes me. No actually quote from Jack Tretton. Exclusive deal to me still sounds as if it means they aren't going to do anything for the XBox or Wii.

I'd like to also point this article out...
http://www.pspfanboy.com/2007/07/12/...s-for-the-psp/

The actual quote from Jack Tretton is on Joystiq.com at the 12:18PST mark.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/11/en...-2007-keynote/
Quote:
"Let's start with our partners games first. We're providing them with the tools they need to develop great games for the PS3. We're very pleased to announce that NCSoft will be joining the PlayStation camp. You probably know them from Lineage, City of Heroes, and Guild Wars. Very soon, they'll be brining that to the PS3 exclusively. Only the PSN can support the types of games NCSoft has become famous for."
What is seen here are two different uses for exclusive. One, the Sony use saying PS3 exclusives. Two, the NC Soft release say exclusive deal with Sony. I'm going to go on a hunch that the NC Soft press release is a little more accurate than what was probably no more than a minute of Jack Tretton's time hyping up the PS3 all he can at another press event that centers on hype.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...
The original post provides a link with evidence for the PSP remarks, and your only retort is to provide your own link!? If your commenting on a thread how about focusing on the subject provided. Yes I know you posted your own source, but that was after your insigating post.

It all appears to be just semantics, exclusive... platforms.. ect. But it clearly says that NCsoft will create online games for PSP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!
Oh wow, that coming from Zinger314. Your known on this forum for posting baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence.

Don't worry I'm sure there will be an Online Gaming PSP forum you can post your "Sky is falling" threads

And so how is WoW? Can't be too exciting since your still posting and haunting a GW site; The very game you have admited to leaving... While constantly highlighting its death-coughs.

Edit: General And the PSP's can be used as a controller with PS3, so who knows what they can dream up.

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I honestly hope that gw going to the ps3/psp doesn't happen. I think no good will come from it but, that's just me.

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Lol, who plays the psp anymore?
It was a failure.

I don't think that ANet would be like, "Yay lets put gw on a system that no one plays."

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Sigh. GW will never appear on a console, since the ArenaNet developers have has no experience with console gaming (to put it simply)

The deal was for PS3-exclusive MMOs, with emphasis on "exclusive." I have no clue how you interpreted that it was PSP only out of that press release...

That's baseless doom and gloom based on uninformed and faulty evidence! That should be permission to flame you incessantly!
Quote:
Originally Posted by NCSoft, the original source
Although company officials did not divulge any details regarding the names or types of games in development, NCsoft officials did say the games would be created from both existing intellectual properties (IP) owned by NCsoft, as well as new IP.
Sigh. People aren't flaming you because you're wrong. People get things wrong all the time. They're flaming you because you get things wrong with such incredible arrogance and self-belief. I get the feeling you're parodying yourself in an attempt to be funny. Either way you've become a cliché. As for your comment about their lack of experience on the console, there's no reason why they couldn't get in a 3rd party to do the conversion, as is often done. Maybe even Sony itself.

Personally I'm in favor of GW on the PS3, if it ever happens. It would certainly be a boon for Anet. The only downside I can think of being a possible Eternal September, but it's not like the GW community isn't already at that level anyway. Maybe a crappy client conversion too (I believe FFXI suffers from this?)

Roshi_ikkyu

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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster
Lol, who plays the psp anymore?
It was a failure.

I don't think that ANet would be like, "Yay lets put gw on a system that no one plays."
Well I think you should win the ignorant award for today and maybe the month.


Care to provide evidence? Last I heard PSP was alive and well and kicking ass!

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ever since i posted the original thread " SONY and NCsoft exclusive deal" its funny to see all the hype and concern of gw onto console , its obvious if u paid attention to fine detail of the article " PS3 and PSP exclusive" which means we wont have to worry bout it. I think its still a lil far fetched right now to say anything current will go to console [ maybe tabula rasa/exteel both inhouse NCsoft products] . But at same time both companies will learn from one another and thats a good start as im hearing so much flaming of the PS3 and how GREAT the 360 is ..lol .. All i have to say on that is " most of us were all PS2 Junkies" for yrs as that was the only console worth playing ...quit hatin on Sony so bad and show some luv and support ...

Zinger314

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My main point still hasn't been refuted; Guild Wars, and specifically Guild Wars (i.e. not City of Heroes or Lineage, which are likely to be ported to PS3) will not appear on a console because, as I said, the ArenaNet developers have had no experience in making console games (the three founders of ArenaNet mostly worked on Diablo, Starcraft, and Warcraft). Handing over aIt's too risky in a business sense, which leads to my next point. Even if it's ported, as bamm bamm bamm said, how would ArenaNet manage to publish updates for both PC and consoles, as they use different infrastructures? (I'm still bitter about the way Phantasy Star Online and Phantasy Star Universe were handled...)

Also, in a more business sense, there's no way Sony would risk investing money on a game without a monthly fee. (Keep in mind that Sony manages 3 games now with a montly fee, even now when they are desperate for money)

It's possible that Sony could publish a single-player Guild Wars spin-off...but that would be kinda contradictory (A single player MMO?), and Guild Wars is not popular enough for a spin-off anyways.

It's all business. But Sony has shot themselves in the foot before...

The original topic asked "Guild Wars on PSP in the future?" And that is a no. I'm answering the original question, thank you.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Also, in a more business sense, there's no way Sony would risk investing money on a game without a monthly fee. (Keep in mind that Sony manages 3 games now with a montly fee, even now when they are desperate for money)
At the moment they need to just push out consoles, and the way to do that is to bombard the public with titles. A free-to-play online game would do the trick nicely. It's the number one reason GW was so successful after all. They are desperate for money, and yes, they make it on the games, but not this early in the game when no-one actually has a console. The push for consoles comes first, the money comes a lot later. It would be, as you said, an investment. I have no idea how the updates would work, other than the fact that their separation of the client from the dumb assets would surely help, and that 'Blizzard manage OK' on Macs as far as I'm aware.

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Remember, Arena-Net themselves dont have to port it over. They could just pay off another dev team to do it for them. Though one thing stopping it would definately be the streaming system.

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Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Well I think you should win the ignorant award for today and maybe the month.


Care to provide evidence? Last I heard PSP was alive and well and kicking ass!
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said failure.

Yes the PSP is alive, but I would hardly call selling half as many systems as its competitor "kicking ass."

And a source: http://www.vgchartz.com/

I have six friends that own a PSP, and none of them have played their PSP since about the first few months of getting it.

Edit: Also, no one can deny that putting movies on UMDs was a failure.

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Originally Posted by Zinger314
as I said, the ArenaNet developers have had no experience in making console games (the three founders of ArenaNet mostly worked on Diablo, Starcraft, and Warcraft)
I find it funny that you keep pushing this idea and then you throw Blizzard into the mix. You know Blizzard got its start as a 3rd party console developer doing games on the SNES and Genesis, right? And Diablo, StarCraft, and WarCraft have all been on one console or another.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MirandaKali
they could possibly make a "dumbed down" version with cross over content.
Isn't that what they have already done with the game?
I'm not sure it can get dumbed down anymore than it already has...

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The fact the refused to comment on a PS3 version of GW2 worries me. "No comment" often means they're planning something. It's been mentioned before, but I really couldn't see it working well on the PS3. For one thing, a free MMO would be cost Sony a ridiculous amount of money to keep running, especially on their free online service. At least Microsoft would have the $50 a year Live supscribtion to keep things going.

I'd say it's pretty unlikely to see GW on a console, but I don't think it can be completely ruled out.

And on a side not, the PSP is certainly not "kicking ass". Infact, it's being pwned left, right and center by the DS. It's not a bad system, but it has some serious flaws and very few games worth owning for it. It's surviving off the Playstation name alone.

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I heard somewhere that the new Pokemon games sold more units in their first week of release than the PSP did in its first year.

Funny if true.

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Man, if u dont know anything about psp then dont ever say it, and who the h**l said psp died? Did u ever heard of some games like Monster Hunter Portable 2, God of War: Chains of Olympus, FF7: core crisis, ...etc?

And what the article mentioned is NCsoft not Anet so it doesnt mean it must be GW only, and the article said "together with the Internet-enabled PSP, we're confident that SCEI and NCsoft can develop unique and compelling online experiences that will be found on no other platform." it is more likely new title instead of the old one.
But what is the point of playing GW on psp? Do you really think psp can handle GW graphic? And how r u going to control it without keyboard, ur speed of controlling will lose.