Destroy E-bay

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Fitz Rinley
Fitz Rinley
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
I have more time to game than almost any player out there. I am often chided by Guild Wars for being in game 15 hours a day. Yet, I see no drops of value ever. If there is no longer a restriction on "farming" then this is unobservable. I do not even specifically farm. I do occasionally look for body parts to get a collector item for a character, or now a hero.

I recently spent a few days trying to get one staff, collector Lotus Death Staff, which requires Skull Jujus. None would drop in days of romping in Echovald. I have not seen any really decent drops.

The loot system is outrageous and lousy and needs improved to drive out the e-bayers completely. undermine themtil they ahve no market.
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Bloodlust Warrior
Academy Page
#2
or...


BURN THE INTERNET

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Sentience
Sentience
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
Not everyone likes PvE as much as you.

Q_Q
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Roshi_ikkyu
Jungle Guide
#4
And this thread is little more then a "My drops suck" thread, where does Ebay come into it?

Are you trying in hard mode, normal? Are you trying with heros/henchies or solo?

And umm IDK, my drops are cool.
Tea Girl
Tea Girl
Banned
#5
collector req items = easy drops o.O

pve more kthxbai
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liner
Academy Page
#6
Try farming The Skill Eater & The Pain Eater or sth, they are next to each other and often drop 2 skull jujus.

and yeah, yr giving e-bay a bad name.
Healers Wisper
Healers Wisper
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
I have noticed a shift in my drops, However crafting materials and collectors stuff not so much. I farm somewhat and have seen a drop in my ggod drops but that not saying much. Worst I had was a run through the Deep in HM without a single Gold Drop. and a grape from a chest . I wonder if there is validity to the anti-Farm code.

BTW E-Bay has nothing to do with, you should have named you thread Distroy bots!! and delt with the flames for another anti-bot thread imo
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Brother Andicus
Lion's Arch Merchant
#8
A) If you play that much, why do you need collector staffs? Buy them.
B) If you really want it that much for the skin, stop whining and go grind some more.
C) Get some guild-mates to come with you whilst farming for the items you need. More real people will generate more drops and since they are all guild-mates all the needed items will go to you.
D) If you cant find any guild-mates willing to help, get a decent guild.
E) If you cant find a decent guild, i) learn to use the internet, or ii) suck less.
mr_groovy
mr_groovy
Desert Nomad
#9
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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley
.... I am often chided by Guild Wars for being in game 15 hours a day...
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Originally Posted by Tea Girl
..pve more kthxbai...
Even more then 15 hours? lol
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perfect
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Destroy Ebay? huh? The OP must subscribe to this magazine:


Your rant is complete nonsense.
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Roshi_ikkyu
Jungle Guide
#11
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Originally Posted by Healers Wisper
I wonder if there is validity to the anti-Farm code.

BTW E-Bay has nothing to do with, you should have named you thread Distroy bots!! and delt with the flames for another anti-bot thread imo
Anet admitted there was an anti-farming code after it was replaced by the loot scalling. But since the spent the better part of 2 years denying it or avoiding the issue, can you really trust there word on the matter?




And hell no don't make it another bot thread, the loot changes were not majorly inspired by bots, but rather HM and the easy ability of farming (They got sick of nerfing skills, so they nerfed the drops)
mr_stealth
mr_stealth
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
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Originally Posted by Tea Girl
collector req items = easy drops o.O

pve more kthxbai
Actually, quite a few collector items are somewhat rare because there simply aren't very many spawns of the mob type that drop them. bleached shells(sold for 1k+ each for some time), guardian moss, vampiric fangs(only drops in urgoz?)...quite a few others. I keep almost all of my canthan collector tradable drops, and skull jujus are one of the items I rarely have a large amount of. Perhaps you would know this if you "pve more".
Fitz Rinley
Fitz Rinley
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
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Sentience:
Not everyone likes PvE as much as you.
You’re right. I PvP in the random arenas on extremely rare occasions when I feel like putting up with a bunch of braggarts who are concerned with screeching sexual innuendoes and homosexual terms at fellow players. Having dealt with similar immaturity before I do, rarely, bother. For the most part – PvP has absolutely nothing to offer me. It has no character content, it offers me no upgrades that I can use in PvE, it offers me no ability to change skins on my weapons, off-hand items, or armor for use in PvE, I cannot use skills I unlock in PvE. So, PvP is completely and totally a waste of time.
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Roshi_ikkyu:
And this thread is little more then a "My drops suck" thread, where does Ebay come into it?
E-bay comes into it because that is synonymous with where the bots sell the gold and items they acquire. Just like Philips is a company that manufactures tools but is synonymous with the cross-head screwdriver for which it is famous.
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Are you trying in hard mode, normal? Are you trying with heros/henchies or solo?
I have been out in hard mode, solo, with very few heros, etc. It does not matter the drops always and have always been of little or no value in this game. Even if you do get something higher end it is screwed up so as to be of little or no value. I finally got something of semi-value today in the Palace Mission. Sundering Golden Maul of Fortitude (R: 9, Dmg 19-35) 20/19, +29 H. Since an inscription cannot be added its value is negligible and since nothing is max it is effectively worthless, but oooooo it is gooooold, how pretty are the letters. I will admit at least the art on this hammer isn’t grotesque. So, it is pretty much merch fodder – not that everything from Tyria and Cantha isn’t anyway since Nightfall has inscriptions.
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Liner:
Try Skill Eater and ...
I killed Skill Eater and Pain Eater repeatedly for three days and never saw a single Skull Juju. Not one. If they dropped anything at all it was usually something so pathetic as to be worthy of Pre.
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Healers Wisper:
BTW E-Bay has nothing to do with, you should have named you thread Distroy bots!! and delt with the flames for another anti-bot thread imo.
E-bay has no morals about ensuring the people that use their system are abiding by legal agreements and EULAs. They do not care as long as they get their cut of money and therefore are equally as guilty as those using their services. If you want to consider that flaming, then consider it flames. But their own unwillingness to do anything to ensure those using their system are law abiding and moral persons in all the nature of their transactions, because they do not prevent the exchange of goods and services such as this, because their name is synonymous with the purchase of gold and items in violation of the EULA, because their name is so common as to be a verb in regular parlance: “I e-bayed for it,” the use of the term not only applies to their own failings but to all industries whose reprehensible nature can be similarly identified in apparent use of the term. If E-bay as a corporation did not desire this characterization then they would have maintained from the beginning a strict code of ethics, and enforced it fully, that prevented the use of their system such that this reputation would never have existed.


The fact is this. The only way to kill the bots and stop the e-bayers is to make their industry worthless. That means destroy the reason they have something to sell. They have something to sell because people cannot get what they want and need to play the game through regular game play. If people could get what they want and need through regular game play they would not be interested in paying unnecessary cash which could go into more snacks, more DvDs, more Music, more clothes, more gas, etc. instead of into the pockets of people that are supposed to be unsupported by Guild Wars. But if Guild Wars wants the bots and the illicit market then they need to keep restricted item and loot drops such that there remains a vested interest in EULA violators. If Guild Wars does not want the illicit market, and is not somehow profiting from it, then they have no reason to prevent the opening up of drops such that the illicit market ceases to have external income value. This is the economic reality and it is the only economic reality. If you support restricted drops you support e-bayers and bots. If you support eliminating their reason d’etre then you support releasing the restrictions on drops.
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#14
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Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Anet admitted there was an anti-bot code after it was replaced by the loot scalling. But since the spent the better part of 2 years denying it or avoiding the issue, can you really trust there word on the matter?




And hell no don't make it another bot thread, the loot changes were not majorly inspired by bots, but rather HM and the easy ability of farming (They got sick of nerfing skills, so they nerfed the drops)
Fixed your mistake. Only people who farmed like a bot or just farmed for hours upon hours wasting away their drab little life then they deserved poor drops.

Anyway..I fail to see why E-bay is to blame? nobody needs to buy gold anymore everything is a fifth of the price it was back in 2005.
drago34
drago34
Krytan Explorer
#15
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Originally Posted by perfect
Destroy Ebay? huh? The OP must subscribe to this magazine:
LOL! I'm still laughing from that one.
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1 up and 2 down
Wilds Pathfinder
#16
I thought E-bay stopped gold from being sold there. :\
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1 up and 2 down
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
I thought E-bay stopped gold from being sold there. :\
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#18
E-bay was never the 'top dog' when it comes to gold sells, it got all the blame because it's the most widely known site that sells/sold gold.
Fitz Rinley
Fitz Rinley
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Anet admitted there was an anti-farming code after it was replaced by the loot scalling. But since the spent the better part of 2 years denying it or avoiding the issue, can you really trust there word on the matter?
Actually I have not trusted ANet at their word since all the Factions Fiasco began a year ago with the "it will be available on this date" and it wasn't, and the representations in preview that weren't (like open alliance making that did not require 4 man guild teams), and the coercive measures of Faction and Favor meant to force PvE players to become PvP players. I have not forgotten.

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And hell no don't make it another bot thread, the loot changes were not majorly inspired by bots, but rather HM and the easy ability of farming (They got sick of nerfing skills, so they nerfed the drops)
All they did was inspire more botting, more e-baying, and more problems. The only answer for undermining the bots and e-baying is opening up drops so that there is no market for their services. Anyone that supports restricted drops supports bots and e-baying for gold and virtual items. The only reason to support restriction is to support these activities in order to control the access of fellow players for personal gain.
Onarik Amrak
Onarik Amrak
Forge Runner
#20
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Originally Posted by perfect
Destroy Ebay? huh? The OP must subscribe to this magazine:


Your rant is complete nonsense.
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