I am a man, a very poor man.
Of corse I am talking about my guild wars character. I have had at most 16k and spent it all in the next half hour. Now my main money is about a k or two.
I have only nightfall, and am only on the mission where u have to cross the desolation, I need to know how to make money fast.
Some people say to sell stuff, I do but it doesn't earn me much, at all.
Some people say the really valuable stuff drops in the underworld, but I have to ask one question.
WHERE IS THIS UNDERWORLD?
So I hope u can answer my question and give me tips, I would appreciate them.
How to make gold - fast
wise dragon smiter
Sakura Az
you can access the underworld from the chantry of secrets when your region has favor. just kneel in front of the statue of grenth and pay 1k to grenth to access the underworld.
Darko_UK
Tough lucky farming the Uw with only NF skills kid-o, anet hates players likes you and doesn't want them to make money, they want you to buy money online then they ban your account so you gota buy another. making them more money
JeniM
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Tough lucky farming the Uw with only NF skills kid-o, anet hates players likes you and doesn't want them to make money, they want you to buy money online then they ban your account so you gota buy another. making them more money
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hmmm you bought gold and got caught but does it need to be brought here?
Did a team clearence of Fissure of Woe last night with guild mates and between us made 2k each and a rare material each (3 shards and 1 saphire)
FoW is through kneeling before the Bathazar statue and paying tribute
Iuris
Well, whatever happened, it sure soured you.
Anet wants players to play for fun and that in such a way that they don't spoil the fun of others. Almost all the changes I've encountered so far (8 months+) have been significant improvements. And I'm talking about the very things that seem to have pissed so many off.
Guess what: Loot scaling hasn't affected me at all. I always play in a full party. And still, with 8 characters, all that are not using 15k armour are doing so because there is not better looking 15k armour available for the class (Ritualist, Monk, and the just born Paragon). And I've still got 200k in the bank. From regular play, that is. Nightfall treasures, identified whites from questing and missioning, and bingo.
Why, only yesterday, I made 2.5k in the space of two missions and theiur connecting quests.
So, Darko, try to get with the times, and stop souring the game for everyone else.
Anet wants players to play for fun and that in such a way that they don't spoil the fun of others. Almost all the changes I've encountered so far (8 months+) have been significant improvements. And I'm talking about the very things that seem to have pissed so many off.
Guess what: Loot scaling hasn't affected me at all. I always play in a full party. And still, with 8 characters, all that are not using 15k armour are doing so because there is not better looking 15k armour available for the class (Ritualist, Monk, and the just born Paragon). And I've still got 200k in the bank. From regular play, that is. Nightfall treasures, identified whites from questing and missioning, and bingo.
Why, only yesterday, I made 2.5k in the space of two missions and theiur connecting quests.
So, Darko, try to get with the times, and stop souring the game for everyone else.
fujin
I haven`t played for a while, so I`m not sure about this, but if your character is a Dervish, which is a Nightfall exclusive profession, you can do a Desolation run. Running from Sunspear Sanctuary to Gate of Desolation, shouldn`t be to difficult.
You can also join a UW or FoW group in hopes of getting ectos/shards. It`d be better to team up with a person you know or guild mates so they can guide you through explaining what its like. You have to pay 1K IF you go solo, so I thought a group might save some cash... Its 1,000 divided by the number of people in your group.
You can also join a UW or FoW group in hopes of getting ectos/shards. It`d be better to team up with a person you know or guild mates so they can guide you through explaining what its like. You have to pay 1K IF you go solo, so I thought a group might save some cash... Its 1,000 divided by the number of people in your group.
Yol
....or you can get your hands on one of those FoW entry scrolls, and enter regardless of who has favour.
the_jos
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Some you can trade at NPC's (like ectos), others you can sell to other players.
For example I don't know the current price for Titan gemstones, but those were a lot more expensive than ectos.
fujin
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With that kind of spending, I'd also be poor...
It's not only underworld, there are some other places that drop valuables. Some you can trade at NPC's (like ectos), others you can sell to other players. For example I don't know the current price for Titan gemstones, but those were a lot more expensive than ectos. |
Keithark
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Guess what: Loot scaling hasn't affected me at all. I always play in a full party. And still, with 8 characters, all that are not using 15k armour are doing so because there is not better looking 15k armour available for the class (Ritualist, Monk, and the just born Paragon). And I've still got 200k in the bank. From regular play, that is. Nightfall treasures, identified whites from questing and missioning, and bingo.
Why, only yesterday, I made 2.5k in the space of two missions and theiur connecting quests. So, Darko, try to get with the times, and stop souring the game for everyone else. |
15 k armor doesn't look better???..sign #2
oooooooo!!!!!! 2.5k?? WOW you could almost buy..ummm...errr..what could you buy with that? maybe a half dozen ben cakes or something? Sign # 3 that your post is stupid....Loot scaling is fine so long as they reduce cost of materials and armors and runes, but since armors are fixed cost and now materials don't drop very often it is obvious that Loot scaling pushes people to buy gold, it's the only way to get any of that stuff without months of grind and lots of people got this game because it said no grind....and don't start talking to me about what you don't "have to have", I will decide what my characters do and do not have to have
RhanoctJocosa
Buy Prophesies or you can rule out money making, sorry.
Or, just look for a new game because someone like you (and please don't take this as a flame because I'm like this too) wants instant gratification when it comes to money- and you're not going to get that with the current economy. Luckily for me I made all my money back before the AoE scatter was added so I'm alright. All I can suggest is make ALOT of characters and run the treasure chests whenever they are available (wiki it).
gl hf mb
Or, just look for a new game because someone like you (and please don't take this as a flame because I'm like this too) wants instant gratification when it comes to money- and you're not going to get that with the current economy. Luckily for me I made all my money back before the AoE scatter was added so I'm alright. All I can suggest is make ALOT of characters and run the treasure chests whenever they are available (wiki it).
gl hf mb
Iuris
@Keithark:
1: Loot scaling has not affected my earnings. At all. I made 2 solo runs just before the scaling kicked in, that's all. The only effects it has had were thus indirect - it has started to knock down prices. But, that's only starting to take effect.
2: Most 15k armor looks better than normal armor. It's certainly more dtailed. However, taste comes into the question. I don't like the way monk, Ritualist and Paragon elite armor look, so I choose to use normal armor. I could certainly afford to go 15k if I wanted to.
3: 2.5k earned while also having -nonrepetitive- fun is a very good deal. That's 2 new skills (5 if you buy tomes, at current prices). That's 10 of low costing rare materials, or 5 of the medium costing ones. That's 1/6th of a 15k armour piece.
Your problem is greed, that's all.
1: Loot scaling has not affected my earnings. At all. I made 2 solo runs just before the scaling kicked in, that's all. The only effects it has had were thus indirect - it has started to knock down prices. But, that's only starting to take effect.
2: Most 15k armor looks better than normal armor. It's certainly more dtailed. However, taste comes into the question. I don't like the way monk, Ritualist and Paragon elite armor look, so I choose to use normal armor. I could certainly afford to go 15k if I wanted to.
3: 2.5k earned while also having -nonrepetitive- fun is a very good deal. That's 2 new skills (5 if you buy tomes, at current prices). That's 10 of low costing rare materials, or 5 of the medium costing ones. That's 1/6th of a 15k armour piece.
Your problem is greed, that's all.
pkodyssey
You need money and your in Nightfall let me think...
1. Have you hit all the free chests. DAMMN thats a great start.
2. Do you ID all you drops including whites.
3. The first role of any RPG is pick up everything and sell it.
4. Do all the Vabbian quests that give you Trade contracts. Trade them for rubies. Sell to other players.
Gold is the easiest thing to get. Stop spending it like water on dumb crap. A req 9 purple does the SAME thing as a req 9 gold for a hellll of a lot less.
1. Have you hit all the free chests. DAMMN thats a great start.
2. Do you ID all you drops including whites.
3. The first role of any RPG is pick up everything and sell it.
4. Do all the Vabbian quests that give you Trade contracts. Trade them for rubies. Sell to other players.
Gold is the easiest thing to get. Stop spending it like water on dumb crap. A req 9 purple does the SAME thing as a req 9 gold for a hellll of a lot less.
pkodyssey
You need money and your in Nightfall let me think...
1. Have you hit all the free chests. DAMMN thats a great start.
2. Do you ID all you drops including whites.
3. The first role of any RPG is pick up everything and sell it.
4. Do all the Vabbian quests that give you Trade contracts. Trade them for rubies. Sell to other players.
Gold is the easiest thing to get. Stop spending it like water on dumb crap. A req 9 purple does the SAME thing as a req 9 gold for a hellll of a lot less.
1. Have you hit all the free chests. DAMMN thats a great start.
2. Do you ID all you drops including whites.
3. The first role of any RPG is pick up everything and sell it.
4. Do all the Vabbian quests that give you Trade contracts. Trade them for rubies. Sell to other players.
Gold is the easiest thing to get. Stop spending it like water on dumb crap. A req 9 purple does the SAME thing as a req 9 gold for a hellll of a lot less.
Steboy93
First of all, look on guildwiki for maps of all the free chests throughout nightfall, this is the only campaign with these, and if you open them all you will make about 30k or more.
My main way of making money is merchanting, first of all look around in the big trade districts, in your case kamadam, and see what is in demand, look on guru in ventaris corner, see what prices are like, buy low sell high and that sort of thing. I maxed storage yesterday, and at least 80% of it came from merchanting.
As you were talking about the UW, that is a good place to farm , however it is very hard and you will need to find a good build to do so.
So anyway, good luck with your hunt for gold, i hope i have helped out
My main way of making money is merchanting, first of all look around in the big trade districts, in your case kamadam, and see what is in demand, look on guru in ventaris corner, see what prices are like, buy low sell high and that sort of thing. I maxed storage yesterday, and at least 80% of it came from merchanting.
As you were talking about the UW, that is a good place to farm , however it is very hard and you will need to find a good build to do so.
So anyway, good luck with your hunt for gold, i hope i have helped out
Griff Mon
Learn to solo certain areas. You get to keep all the gold that way. You did not mention your profession but with the right skill set you can take on a whole lot of areas by yourself and keep all the drops. Even if you can't solo yet, reduce your party size until you can. That will increase your gold, your item drops, and any rare drops fall to you. Listen to what is selling in town that is hot, certain green weapons etc, and go after those and sell them.
Curse You
Well if you want to only use Nightfal skills, but solo the FoW, there is a paragon build that I know of.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/any_FoW_Paratrooper
I've never tried it, since my Paragon is a survivor, and I'd like to keep it that way.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/any_FoW_Paratrooper
I've never tried it, since my Paragon is a survivor, and I'd like to keep it that way.
JeniM
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You need money and your in Nightfall let me think...
1. Have you hit all the free chests. DAMMN thats a great start. 2. Do you ID all you drops including whites. 3. The first role of any RPG is pick up everything and sell it. 4. Do all the Vabbian quests that give you Trade contracts. Trade them for rubies. Sell to other players. Gold is the easiest thing to get. Stop spending it like water on dumb crap. A req 9 purple does the SAME thing as a req 9 gold for a hellll of a lot less. |
Snograt
Using an ID kit on whites is not a waste of money. Identifying white items increases their value.
Try it.
Try it.
jhu
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Actually, just ID the high-level white items. The low-level white items aren't worth identifying at all.
JeniM
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I take it you've never IDed your white items? The additional merchant selling price between unidentified and identified white items ranges from anywhere between 1g and 60g. The average is about 20g more than unidentified. Given that using an ID kit once costs about 4g (100g/25 uses), it's worthwhile to ID your white items.
Actually, just ID the high-level white items. The low-level white items aren't worth identifying at all. |
notskorn
You'll have to start farming. I would suggest planting tomatoes, corn and possibly some potatoes. Theres a good faq for this here (copy and paste).
wise dragon smiter
What the hell is farming?
I do have prophecies, but i accessed it with my nightfall character and not very far in it at all.
Also the link above does not work.
I do have prophecies, but i accessed it with my nightfall character and not very far in it at all.
Also the link above does not work.
tmakinen
Farming = repeatedly killing some monsters for loot or other commodity, usually done alone to maximize profit.
But concerning the larger issue, in any multiplayer game there doesn't exist, and indeed cannot exist, an easy and reliable way to become rich fast. If one existed, everybody would use it to become 'rich' but that would only lead to massive inflation and thus nobody would be any better off. The best way to become rich in the game is to play it and be reasonably frugal. The money will accumulate along the way.
But concerning the larger issue, in any multiplayer game there doesn't exist, and indeed cannot exist, an easy and reliable way to become rich fast. If one existed, everybody would use it to become 'rich' but that would only lead to massive inflation and thus nobody would be any better off. The best way to become rich in the game is to play it and be reasonably frugal. The money will accumulate along the way.
HuntMaster Avatar
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I am a man, a very poor man.
Of corse I am talking about my guild wars character. I have had at most 16k and spent it all in the next half hour. Now my main money is about a k or two. I have only nightfall, and am only on the mission where u have to cross the desolation, I need to know how to make money fast. Some people say to sell stuff, I do but it doesn't earn me much, at all. Some people say the really valuable stuff drops in the underworld, but I have to ask one question. WHERE IS THIS UNDERWORLD? So I hope u can answer my question and give me tips, I would appreciate them. |
as i only have 1 character who can do them all i made alittle over 28 plat and lots of gold items. including a shadow axe (near max mods)
if you can level all your characters and get them to the realm of torment you can do treasure runs with all of them, which would make you ALOT of money and items, (help toward id title)
ID all items before selling. i like to farm margonites in Realm of torment, you get nice drops and you can gain Lightbringer points to further help with farming. the LB titles give Bonus Dmg and Dmg Reduction when dealing with Margonites,Demons,Shadows in RoT.
another idea is to Price Check your items and then post them in the sell section of this site. which i will be doing! i do not like trading, so the site offers a very easy way to find buyers/sellers.
i too have a very hard time making money on GW. so i hope you have better luck than me.
Wrath of m0o
Back to the OP
My best suggestion is learn the market, i have made a vast majority of my riches buying low and reselling for a profit. This website is my #1 source for price guides. With this info you can learn what sells for what, and if you see someone selling something you know players buy, and haggle the seller down, there is an unlimmited supply of gold to be made here.
Also, Vanquishing areas on Hardmode can earn you some good loot, and bonus gold for clearing the area.
Hope that helps
My best suggestion is learn the market, i have made a vast majority of my riches buying low and reselling for a profit. This website is my #1 source for price guides. With this info you can learn what sells for what, and if you see someone selling something you know players buy, and haggle the seller down, there is an unlimmited supply of gold to be made here.
Also, Vanquishing areas on Hardmode can earn you some good loot, and bonus gold for clearing the area.
Hope that helps
Malice Black
Trading is the only real way to make money these days, even that has taken a huge hit though.
Trading takes time, patience, knowledge and more then a little luck. A good market to start in is Mini-pets, easy to get hold of and easy to sell. Start off small buy a few for 1-5k and then see if you can double your money by the end of the day.
If you can doubled your money then you willl have more money to invest in the next 'tier' of mini-pets. Rinse and repeat until you have either made money or completely broke.
Trading isn't the easy option though and requires more time and knowledge then any type of farming would.
If trading sounds like you then visit Ventari's Corner to see what is happening in the trading world.
Trading takes time, patience, knowledge and more then a little luck. A good market to start in is Mini-pets, easy to get hold of and easy to sell. Start off small buy a few for 1-5k and then see if you can double your money by the end of the day.
If you can doubled your money then you willl have more money to invest in the next 'tier' of mini-pets. Rinse and repeat until you have either made money or completely broke.
Trading isn't the easy option though and requires more time and knowledge then any type of farming would.
If trading sounds like you then visit Ventari's Corner to see what is happening in the trading world.
fujin
Malice`s idea is good... To get that first few platinum, you can go the long way and make money as you go through the storyline, since you get money after completing missions depending on how well you did it, or of course, ask a fellow guildie to lend you some money.
Hyper.nl
My advice would be to do the wurm queen mission in NF and join one of the lightbringer/sunspear farm teams. Here you farm in hard more in a group of around 6. You get better drops because of hard mode and have the protection of your wurm. In the same time you work on your titles. It's quite efficient.
It gives around 800g per run of 10-12 minutes. And this is just from gold you find and white/blue/purples you merch. With some luck you'll also find lockpicks, golds and tomes, which can sell for more when sold to players.
It gives around 800g per run of 10-12 minutes. And this is just from gold you find and white/blue/purples you merch. With some luck you'll also find lockpicks, golds and tomes, which can sell for more when sold to players.
fujin
Don`t forget that you have to finish the game first to access Hard Mode. It`s still do-able with 5 people, although its a little harder. Just don`t be the only one to charge in, go in with your group, and you should be safe.
I`m not sure of the current price, but there`s a chance of getting Alem`s Remedy since the boss is on the way to the temple(?) with Graven Monoliths. The staff is quite decent IMO, I use it on my Ritualist...
I`m not sure of the current price, but there`s a chance of getting Alem`s Remedy since the boss is on the way to the temple(?) with Graven Monoliths. The staff is quite decent IMO, I use it on my Ritualist...
quickmonty
Just starting the game with your first character, it takes time to accumulate wealth. I've been playing for over two years, and now have nine characters. I did some solo farming before it got totally nerfed, got lucky and made my fortune. I'm now going after skill hunter titles, which can be very expensive, but manage to keep my wealth up by just playing, picking up everything and selling junk to merchant. I also salvage drops that give decent crafting materials, wait till the price is up and unload them. One trick that not many people do ..... wait till you have a large amount of iron and glittering dust, buy needed charcoal (when price is low) and go craft some deodrimor steel. Sell it to rare materials crafter. You can make quite a bit doing this.
populationcontrol
i feel your pain dude, yet its gotten harder to make fast money lately. the was a serious ecto stock market crash, ectos used to be worth 9k are now worth like 4.5. farming green bosses can be anoyying in the sense that after fighting for an hour to get to them, they may or may not be holding the green weapon there farming, if there holding it they may or may not drop it, and if they drop it theres a 1/5 chance its for you. not to mention that most greens are worth 1k in green pricelines. i think at this time to make money your best bet is making a character that runs people droks or maybe fow chest runs, golds i find are way easier to sell from my perspective (fow beeing accesible through temple of the ages)
Healers Wisper
ok here is the deal, you dont make money fast in this game. There isn't a good "short cut" to being rich. It takes practice and patience. period. You have to learn what class you like to play, browse forums and find Farming builds that work for others then practice them and modify them for your own playstyle. Then you have to invest time to get good at using your farm builds, then time for farming.
This game isn't about instant gradification, all the people here that are complaining about I can't do this or that anymore, need to see that ANet is trying to keep things fresh and new for us to keep interest. I make pretty good money now, 20-25 K a week + materials and Golds/greens, with about 10-15 hours put in. If I bother selling items I find I can get to 50-75K, but that takes too much time to do, and when I do I always sell below "market Value" to sell quickly.
If you want your FoW armor in a day its not gonna happen, nor should it. Elite armor is (supposedly) for elite players not for instant gradification. If you just want it and don't want to earn it, take your risks on e-bay. If you want some sence of accomplishment, practice, be patient, and Farm.
This game isn't about instant gradification, all the people here that are complaining about I can't do this or that anymore, need to see that ANet is trying to keep things fresh and new for us to keep interest. I make pretty good money now, 20-25 K a week + materials and Golds/greens, with about 10-15 hours put in. If I bother selling items I find I can get to 50-75K, but that takes too much time to do, and when I do I always sell below "market Value" to sell quickly.
If you want your FoW armor in a day its not gonna happen, nor should it. Elite armor is (supposedly) for elite players not for instant gradification. If you just want it and don't want to earn it, take your risks on e-bay. If you want some sence of accomplishment, practice, be patient, and Farm.
ShadowsRequiem
there are some farm spots that people use for getting gold, and some people use for trying to get rare and unique items. Go to the Farming forum and see what you would like to do from there.
and 25k in 15 hours is god awful no offense. there are spots where u can make 15k no problem in 1-2hours
and 25k in 15 hours is god awful no offense. there are spots where u can make 15k no problem in 1-2hours
Healers Wisper
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there are some farm spots that people use for getting gold, and some people use for trying to get rare and unique items. Go to the Farming forum and see what you would like to do from there.
and 25k in 15 hours is god awful no offense. there are spots where u can make 15k no problem in 1-2hours |
) My point is, You can make the money need for Normal game expensies and still see a savings increase (mine is about 25K a week) for more elite and vanity things.
jhu
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but for the past week you could farm for victory tokens from the Shing Jea monestary quests. It takes 20 minutes to do the first 3 quests and nets 150 victory tokens (the 4th quest can't be done with a new character without from someone else). Each token is worth at least 20g, or you could sell them to other players for more. So that's 9k/hour. I think the quests are still active now.
Threepwood
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I am a man, a very poor man.
Of corse I am talking about my guild wars character. I have had at most 16k and spent it all in the next half hour. Now my main money is about a k or two. I have only nightfall, and am only on the mission where u have to cross the desolation, I need to know how to make money fast. Some people say to sell stuff, I do but it doesn't earn me much, at all. Some people say the really valuable stuff drops in the underworld, but I have to ask one question. WHERE IS THIS UNDERWORLD? So I hope u can answer my question and give me tips, I would appreciate them. |
But have you tried the monthly chest-reward system? Search for mystical treasure chests, Do-Not-Touch chests, etc... They spoil you with both gold and a high quality drops and if you're lucky, this drop might be worth a bit too. Even better: this system resets every 30/31 days, so you can go hunt for them again
So, basically, if you have 2 NF characters that mostly made through the game, you could get about ~15-20K/character equalling 30-40K/month!
Now isn't that a LAZY way to earn fast money? (-:
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Didn't read all the replies, since most of them went off-topic about another reply.
But have you tried the monthly chest-reward system? Search for mystical treasure chests, Do-Not-Touch chests, etc... They spoil you with both gold and a high quality drops and if you're lucky, this drop might be worth a bit too. Even better: this system resets every 30/31 days, so you can go hunt for them again So, basically, if you have 2 NF characters that mostly made through the game, you could get about ~15-20K/character equalling 30-40K/month! Now isn't that a LAZY way to earn fast money? (-: |
fujin
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I've read that the amount of gold decreases and the type of item can be a purple item if you do that too many times.
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populationcontrol
farming is for peasants (unreliable), try making a good runer, steady initial income