Lazy Monk

Green Gnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Nope just if you went off of radar.

riana

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

I am brand new to guild wars. I ordered prophecies yesterday from circuit city online.

I am debating between starting an elementalist or a monk. I really would like to play an offensive minded caster, without completely abandoning defense or healing. And of course I want to make myself attractive to parties.

Can anyone give me some advice so I can make a wise character selection?

thanks,
riana

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by riana
I am brand new to guild wars. I ordered prophecies yesterday from circuit city online.

I am debating between starting an elementalist or a monk. I really would like to play an offensive minded caster, without completely abandoning defense or healing. And of course I want to make myself attractive to parties.

Can anyone give me some advice so I can make a wise character selection?

thanks,
riana
Definitely Elementalist in my opinion. They have everything you said you want in your post... except for healing, good healing that is But you could always use healing spells from your second profession.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Riana best bet is to make a Elementalist, or if you want a challenge (for first starting) make a Mesmer.

At the OP Monks shouldn't be lazy >.>

bart

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Gnight
monk who sits on the backlines.
I thought that is what monks do?

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

Maybe he means like, a bonder.
Cast bonds and then just sit there.

That's not really learning the game, but who am I to tell someone how to play?

Oh, and no you don't lose drops unless you're off the radar,but you will lose xp if you're not involved in the fight somehow.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

You can't really play the early part of the game as a bonder anyway. No one needs one or knows what one is. They just need healers and if you solo anything in the early part, you are gonna need your smites up.

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It
Maybe he means like, a bonder.
Cast bonds and then just sit there.
Never played a bonder then I take it XD

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

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Khem, I recently made my monk, so I still remember the misconceptions I used to have about the class.

The only monk that isn't a FULL time job is a smiter. ALL other monks will have you constantly monitor your skills and use the right skills at the right moment.

For a breakdown of what a monk does:
A) Smiter. The smiter acts like any other offensive class - use skills that recharge on the nearest enemy group. Simple.
B) Healer. All healer types, even Light of Deliverance ones, constantly keep their eyes on the party health bars so they can use the right skill at the right moment on the right character. Requires lots of reflexes.
C) Protector. Protectors are just like the healers. The only thing is they require less in reflexes. YOu still need all your attention focused on the party.
D) Bonder. The bonder first spends a minute casting his bonds on the whole party. After that, he'll have at least -4 energy regeneration. The whole game after that is hitting Blessed signet and Mantra of inscriptions at just the right time so that you don't lose the enchantments. That's routine. However, you ALSO need to constantly keep checking that all the enchantments are still in place so that you recast the ones that enemies take down. It's a busy job...

Water Angel

Water Angel

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

Paris

Me/E

if you think prot monk is lasy job staying at backlines u bettr no monk at all and change caracter...same for bonder.

no real monk have some lasy ass job, cept ones diserving be kicked of party for Alesia.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Gnight
I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?
Then when I thought about it I figured this was a PvE type monk. PvP prots that are lazy usually get the boot

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris
B) Healer. All healer types, even Light of Deliverance ones, constantly keep their eyes on the party health bars so they can use the right skill at the right moment on the right character. Requires lots of reflexes.
C) Protector. Protectors are just like the healers. The only thing is they require less in reflexes. YOu still need all your attention focused on the party.
I think you have those two mixed up.
In short

Healer looks at the party window and when the red bars go down they make them go up again.

Protection you watch the playing field as a whole, when you see someone is gonna take damage you throw a RoF on them before they get hit so the red bar doesn't even go down,If you see they are gonna get spiked you throw Spirit bond on them , or Protective Spirit, your choice.

With prot you have to anticipate what is gonna happen and act accordingly before it happens with healing you have to let the action happen first and then act. ( not saying your finger shouldn't be on that healing skill until they get hit,you just have to let them get hit first and then press)

There is a reason why most Prot skills are 1/4 sec cast and healing skills are 1 second, prot is there so you can squeeze your spell in before the enemies next hit.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Lazy players are known by another name .... leechers. Nobody likes a leecher, and they will be shunned from parties and kicked out of any decent guild. Every member of a party has to participate and carry his weight.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

@ Xenex

Different builds will demand different things and different playstyles.

But be that as it may: we appear to certainly agree that playing ANY monk takes a lot of work, making lazy less of an option

fujin

fujin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O

Officer of United Jedi [UJ]

E/

If you really want to be a lazy monk (Although you definitely shouldn't), you can get a good healing monk/rit on your team and make that person do all the work.

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodor
Never played a bonder then I take it XD
No, I've played one a lot actually.
It's quite easy.

Twinsoul

Twinsoul

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha

Rogue Clan [Rg]

Mo/N

I'm a lazy monk. I yell at my guild when I actually need to cast spells.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

When I'm feeling lazy I play monk... snaps my a$$ right out of it and charges me up. . Bonder isn't lazy, too much button mashing but unless it's DoA or something it *is* boring due to the button mashing only being 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1....
Prot on the other hand it extremely invigorating. I love that there are so many more options for monkage since NF.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Water Angel
if you think prot monk is lasy job staying at backlines u bettr no monk at all and change caracter...same for bonder.

no real monk have some lasy ass job, cept ones diserving be kicked of party for Alesia.
Rofl I find this funny kicked for Alesia.

There is nothing wrong with bonder and besides that it was protective bond that started the first 55 build not spirit.It is a lot like being an MM in way.

samcobra

samcobra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/Me

uh.. if you're not bonding...then prot monk is the most intensive monk job available. While a heal monk can just look at their party bar and make red bars go up, as a prot monk, you have to look at the field and actually preprot targets as enemies switch, or go to cast, or attack certain people, etc. In PvE, this involves looking at enemy melee or eles and preprotting their damage. Its usually really easy in pve, but still, way more difficult than being a 'red bars' heal monk

I'm A Monkey With A Sword

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Limerick!!!

Soul Rangers

Mo/E

Well I love being a prot monk,as said by many people,it does take alot of effort as you have to act before a fight,you will have to think about the kind of enemies youre up against and who will be most vulnerable to them.I've never tried out bonder so i cant really say anything about it.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Gnight
I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?
Can I know what your in game name is so I don't get in a party with you rofl lazy monk, why you even bother playing? everyone dies! NO DROPS FOR ALL.

I'm A Monkey With A Sword

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Limerick!!!

Soul Rangers

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Gnight
I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?
I'd also like to know your in-game name because I really would not want you on my teamI mean why would you even want to be a Lazy Monk???