Prices of lots of things shot up after Factions and Nightfall were introduced (and later came back to earth). Factions had Amber selling for 3K. A minor assassin rune was about the same. Ectos didn't drop then as many predicted. Nightfall saw similar inflation in materials as everyone armored up their new Dervishes and Paragons. Particular runes, like Superior fire, went through the roof with everyone trying to outfit all of their heroes.
What are you "hedging," if anything, in anticipation of GW:EN? I saw a guy in Kodash Bazaar over the weekend offering many ectos for lots of different rare minipets. Is that the thing to stock up on? I think the HoM will lead to certain items becoming very sought after. Whoever guesses right and takes a gamble is going to be very rich.
Pre-GW:EN market plays?
hallomik
Dev121
Ectos Wont price spike , no new profs , no new fow. Diamonds may due to the possiblity of armor being crafted with them ( Im hoping for something more imaganative but meh.) Runes and Normal Mats will go up slightly but not like previously as everyone will be getting ready now .
Series
I already have bought 60 stacks of bones. Here's to new necro armor requiring bones!
lucifer_uk
Already put some cash into diamonds. If they rise then I'll notice a good difference. If they don't I wouldn't have lost that much on a good risk.
noblepaladin
Diamonds are already quite overpriced already, not sure how much money you can make off it. I'm sure if there are new armors that need diamonds, there will be new ways to acquire them (probably a lot more easier than now). Might be able to make some profit from the people who "must have" the new stuff as soon as possible, like those people who spent 40k on white dye when it first came out.
lucifer_uk
Last time I did this I put my cash into a few different things. Made profit on some, losses on others. I made about even.
Thought I'd take a gamble on the diamonds. If I lose out a lil' who cares? Its a game and I enjoy doing this sorta thing.
Thought I'd take a gamble on the diamonds. If I lose out a lil' who cares? Its a game and I enjoy doing this sorta thing.
hallomik
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I already have bought 60 stacks of bones. Here's to new necro armor requiring bones!
Man, that's a lot of storage slots. Hope it pays off.
arcanemacabre
My guess is Fur is going to be needed for many armors in the Dwarf/Norn areas. Diamonds will likely be used, only because they aren't used now - probably for some kind of end-game armor. Another material not used currently (or maybe rarely used, don't remember) is Spiritwood Planks. They might be big for perhaps the Asura area, if they have armor.
Dyes are a consistent, nearly guaranteed investment. Everyone will be buying new armor, and we may not know what materials are needed for the new armors, but we do know everyone will be dyeing their armor. As someone mentioned earlier, ectos and shards are a poor investment just because there are no new classes, so no new FoW armors. Anet might surprise us all and make UW armors or require ecto/shards for a different kind of high-end armor, but it's doubtful.
Dyes are a consistent, nearly guaranteed investment. Everyone will be buying new armor, and we may not know what materials are needed for the new armors, but we do know everyone will be dyeing their armor. As someone mentioned earlier, ectos and shards are a poor investment just because there are no new classes, so no new FoW armors. Anet might surprise us all and make UW armors or require ecto/shards for a different kind of high-end armor, but it's doubtful.
Seissor
Radiant Insignias, Diamonds, Iron Ingots, Tanned Hide, Cloth, black dye, space cake.
Batou of Nine
DIAMONDsssss!!
Lol, well i been collecting Trade Contracts for a little while now, just from all the quests that give them as rewards. Done em all on a few characters so far. I think i have about 100, but i wanna keep doing the quests to get way more. This way in my opinion is safer then outright diamond buying, that way i can wait a couple days to see for sure if GW:EN uses them, and then cash em in bulk to get my diamonds...
I'm gonna need a lot lot lot more trade contracts before GW:EN releases!
cheers!
Lol, well i been collecting Trade Contracts for a little while now, just from all the quests that give them as rewards. Done em all on a few characters so far. I think i have about 100, but i wanna keep doing the quests to get way more. This way in my opinion is safer then outright diamond buying, that way i can wait a couple days to see for sure if GW:EN uses them, and then cash em in bulk to get my diamonds...
I'm gonna need a lot lot lot more trade contracts before GW:EN releases!
cheers!
Metal Herc
I'm stockpiling greens. If I find a good deal I'll buy them, in hopes that they are weapons you can add to your monument. If they are, I'm willing to bet I can make good money off them, if not.. Hell I won't mind equipping my heros with greens :P
I also have a few +20% charrslaying hilts and I'm stockpiling fur (mentioned above)
I also have a few +20% charrslaying hilts and I'm stockpiling fur (mentioned above)
Cebe
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I'm stockpiling fur (mentioned above)
I'd considered the fur thing...I thought a lot of the Norn-armors (assuming there are some, of course) would be furry...I have a fair bit of fur but farming some more would probably be an auspicious move.
I've been buying up some diamonds, although for personal use only. My guess is there will be "free" ways to get them (if they are required), like the trade contracts now, but also like the trade contract system it will probably be a very long and drawn out process to obtain them in thay way. I'm buying ~25 Diamonds, roughly the same number as you need Rubies for Vabbian armor, in the hope that if it turns out I do need them I'll have them already...I don't plan on selling them on.
I'm also collecting "slaying" mods...for personal use. So far I have Charrslaying, Demonslaying and Giantslaying bow grips, a Demonslaying axe haft, Charrslaying and Dwarfslaying sword pommels. Meh, they may never come in useful...but it's fun collecting useless things
Making predictions on something we know very little about FTW!
I've been buying up some diamonds, although for personal use only. My guess is there will be "free" ways to get them (if they are required), like the trade contracts now, but also like the trade contract system it will probably be a very long and drawn out process to obtain them in thay way. I'm buying ~25 Diamonds, roughly the same number as you need Rubies for Vabbian armor, in the hope that if it turns out I do need them I'll have them already...I don't plan on selling them on.
I'm also collecting "slaying" mods...for personal use. So far I have Charrslaying, Demonslaying and Giantslaying bow grips, a Demonslaying axe haft, Charrslaying and Dwarfslaying sword pommels. Meh, they may never come in useful...but it's fun collecting useless things
Making predictions on something we know very little about FTW!
wingzro
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I already have bought 60 stacks of bones. Here's to new necro armor requiring bones!
Bought? What a waste of money then. Bones are so easy to get. Gates of Kryta anyone?
Drop of Fear
stocked around 200 +25% vs charr swords mods. hope it pays off 
even just at 10-15k each i'd be happy
even just at 10-15k each i'd be happy
Gli
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Diamonds are already quite overpriced already, not sure how much money you can make off it.
They weren't when I bought a couple of stacks a month or two ago. Didn't pay a coin over 2,400. I could sell part of my stash now and already make good on the investment while keeping a healthy few in reserve in anticipation of GW:EN. But since I like to gamble I'm going to hold on to all of them.
Diamond prices are bumping up and down like mad over the last few days, I'm sure there's a lot of trade in them.
Diamond prices are bumping up and down like mad over the last few days, I'm sure there's a lot of trade in them.
Chunk
why are so many ppl saying diamonds will be going up. I must be noob or missed something.
Cebe
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why are so many ppl saying diamonds will be going up. I must be noob or missed something.
Diamonds currently have no use and it is anticipated they may have a use in Guild Wars: Eye of the North, most likely for Armor crafting if they are used. People will tend to buy these materials now to either save money later on or make money later on from selling their stash to other players. It's all a big gamble.
Drop of Fear
just as ppl bought stacks of rubies and sapphires for 1.5k-2k before nightfall to see them spiking at 8k later after ppl discovered vabbian armors
Hugh Jarse
I hung on to my carefully compiled stacks of fur for a long time before I had a clearout and sold them for a pitiful amount, I can now see this may have been a mistake.
Slightly off topic as they aren't available but anyone think Mud and Clay bricks may appear?
I'd like to see the price the first time, if ever, one of those drops.
Slightly off topic as they aren't available but anyone think Mud and Clay bricks may appear?
I'd like to see the price the first time, if ever, one of those drops.
Chunk
lol if those start dropping before the release i could see them going for insane amounts
Martin Alvito
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just as ppl bought stacks of rubies and sapphires for 1.5k-2k before nightfall to see them spiking at 8k later after ppl discovered vabbian armors
Same thing happened right before Factions came out; only difference is that the players that bought up the rubies and sapphires prior to Factions took a *massive* bath. Unless they sold out in the days before the game came out, anyway.
It's a bet; you pays your money and takes your chances. Buying up certain regular crafting materials (from other players) is virtually certain to pay off but will realize minimal profits due to space constrictions; same thing with runes/insignias. Rare stackables (ie: black dye/diamonds) probably have more profit potential but the downside risk is also much higher.
It's a bet; you pays your money and takes your chances. Buying up certain regular crafting materials (from other players) is virtually certain to pay off but will realize minimal profits due to space constrictions; same thing with runes/insignias. Rare stackables (ie: black dye/diamonds) probably have more profit potential but the downside risk is also much higher.
Kelsey Cain
mini pets and crafting materials.
People are going to want as many mini pets as possible to unlock GW2 items - expect a real big spike in prices at launch and unless you have to deposit them in the HOH to obtain the GW2 unlocks, a massive price drop as people unload them afterwards.
People are going to want as many mini pets as possible to unlock GW2 items - expect a real big spike in prices at launch and unless you have to deposit them in the HOH to obtain the GW2 unlocks, a massive price drop as people unload them afterwards.
Martin Alvito
I wouldn't bet the ranch on 1st/2nd year minipets. That's going to be an interesting situation and difficult to predict. Good chance that you're right about the general pattern, though.
Now, scarce minipets are another matter entirely. I expect the price on those to spiral upwards rapidly; how much of that effect has already priced into the market I can't say, but I would expect the really scarce minipets to command very high prices for a long time to come.
Rare crafting mats will be a good bet if you have to craft all the different armors in order to unlock them in the Hall of Monuments; less so if you do not.
Now, scarce minipets are another matter entirely. I expect the price on those to spiral upwards rapidly; how much of that effect has already priced into the market I can't say, but I would expect the really scarce minipets to command very high prices for a long time to come.
Rare crafting mats will be a good bet if you have to craft all the different armors in order to unlock them in the Hall of Monuments; less so if you do not.
SgtTomTom
How will mini-pets affect GW2/ Hall of Monuments?
Have i missed something? :/
Have i missed something? :/
Yawgmoth
While there's nothing surprising about people speculating and buying Diamonds causing their price to rise, there's one more interesting thing: Rubies and Sapphires!
While initially their prices were similar, now Rubies are ~7k and Sapphires ~2k which is totally awkward -
- their supply is equal - they drop or salvage or open in treasure chests or coffers of whispers in about the same amounts, I have found and keep many of each. I haven't heard of a way to mass farm just sapphires, any known places drop rubies just aswell.
- demand for them ~should~ be equal - the only known use for either Rubies or Sapphires is the Vabbian Armor, which uses exactly the same number of them.
I'm guessing there's some major hoarding and sepculation going on about Rubies, but I don't know of a leak of information about a new specific use just for them. Their price kept rising when the ectos started dropping, they may have become the new mean choice for hoarding huge millions of value. I myself used a mix of ectos/rubies/sapphires/diamonds/lockpicks to store my value and I'm surprised of such a huge and increasing difference in prices of 2 things which should be similar.
Another thing, the first predictions were that ectos will drop even more after GW:EN release may be totally missed. Obsidian Armor may be needed to "Complete" the armors monument and there are huge masses of people who never had it and may want it because of that.
While initially their prices were similar, now Rubies are ~7k and Sapphires ~2k which is totally awkward -
- their supply is equal - they drop or salvage or open in treasure chests or coffers of whispers in about the same amounts, I have found and keep many of each. I haven't heard of a way to mass farm just sapphires, any known places drop rubies just aswell.
- demand for them ~should~ be equal - the only known use for either Rubies or Sapphires is the Vabbian Armor, which uses exactly the same number of them.
I'm guessing there's some major hoarding and sepculation going on about Rubies, but I don't know of a leak of information about a new specific use just for them. Their price kept rising when the ectos started dropping, they may have become the new mean choice for hoarding huge millions of value. I myself used a mix of ectos/rubies/sapphires/diamonds/lockpicks to store my value and I'm surprised of such a huge and increasing difference in prices of 2 things which should be similar.
Another thing, the first predictions were that ectos will drop even more after GW:EN release may be totally missed. Obsidian Armor may be needed to "Complete" the armors monument and there are huge masses of people who never had it and may want it because of that.
Martin Alvito
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Another thing, the first predictions were that ectos will drop even more after GW:EN release may be totally missed. Obsidian Armor may be needed to "Complete" the armors monument and there are huge masses of people who never had it and may want it because of that.
Good point; depends on the mechanism of operation. If all you have to do to unlock it is get Obsidian Armor on *one* character I'd argue that most of the folks that could realistically afford it already have a set on a character; if there are unlocks for every character class I'd expect the price of ectos/shards to rise rapidly.
Mordakai
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How will mini-pets affect GW2/ Hall of Monuments?
Have i missed something? :/ The E3 video showed what you could show off in your HoM:
Weapons
Armor sets
Mini-pets
Heros and Ranger Pets
Titles
It is unknown exactly how it will work:
If you put the pets in and lose them from the Guild Wars game, then I would predict prices for mini-pets will rise.
If you just need to "unlock" the pet (like a festival hat), then the price will probably drop signicantly, as people would unlock their pet, and then sell. (depending, of course, whether you can use the same pet on all characters).
Like everything else, it's speculation whether mini-pet prices will rise or fall in GWEN.
Have i missed something? :/ The E3 video showed what you could show off in your HoM:
Weapons
Armor sets
Mini-pets
Heros and Ranger Pets
Titles
It is unknown exactly how it will work:
If you put the pets in and lose them from the Guild Wars game, then I would predict prices for mini-pets will rise.
If you just need to "unlock" the pet (like a festival hat), then the price will probably drop signicantly, as people would unlock their pet, and then sell. (depending, of course, whether you can use the same pet on all characters).
Like everything else, it's speculation whether mini-pet prices will rise or fall in GWEN.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
The E3 video showed what you could show off in your HoM:
Weapons
Armor sets
Mini-pets
Heros and Ranger Pets
Titles
It is unknown exactly how it will work:
If you put the pets in and lose them from the Guild Wars game, then I would predict prices for mini-pets will rise.
If you just need to "unlock" the pet (like a festival hat), then the price will probably drop signicantly, as people would unlock their pet, and then sell. (depending, of course, whether you can use the same pet on all characters).
Like everything else, it's speculation whether mini-pet prices will rise or fall in GWEN. I do seem to remember someone (official... Gaile I believe?) that items put in the Hall of Monuments will still be available for use in game, so it certainly seems that nothing will go away, including minis.
Wow... you want to see people afflicted with Pokemon syndrome now?
Here's a thought all... if two of you have mini-pets the other one needs, trade long enough to put it in the hall and then trade back. Temp-swapping FTW!
Weapons
Armor sets
Mini-pets
Heros and Ranger Pets
Titles
It is unknown exactly how it will work:
If you put the pets in and lose them from the Guild Wars game, then I would predict prices for mini-pets will rise.
If you just need to "unlock" the pet (like a festival hat), then the price will probably drop signicantly, as people would unlock their pet, and then sell. (depending, of course, whether you can use the same pet on all characters).
Like everything else, it's speculation whether mini-pet prices will rise or fall in GWEN. I do seem to remember someone (official... Gaile I believe?) that items put in the Hall of Monuments will still be available for use in game, so it certainly seems that nothing will go away, including minis.
Wow... you want to see people afflicted with Pokemon syndrome now?
Here's a thought all... if two of you have mini-pets the other one needs, trade long enough to put it in the hall and then trade back. Temp-swapping FTW!
Martin Alvito
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Here's a thought all... if two of you have mini-pets the other one needs, trade long enough to put it in the hall and then trade back. Temp-swapping FTW!
Unless the pets get flags that only permit them to be added to a Hall of Monuments once (unlikely) this will almost certainly take place quite a bit. Particularly on the ultra-rare pets.
And yes, the potential for scams (WTT my Beetle for your Kanaxai for 5 secs for Hall of Monuments entry? GG NOOB) will definitely result in some in-game drama.
And yes, the potential for scams (WTT my Beetle for your Kanaxai for 5 secs for Hall of Monuments entry? GG NOOB) will definitely result in some in-game drama.
Mordakai
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Here's a thought all... if two of you have mini-pets the other one needs, trade long enough to put it in the hall and then trade back. Temp-swapping FTW!
SCAM! 
Would work for guildies, though.
Yeah, i was thinking of buying a bunch of minis last night, and then went "Hey, wait a minute... these could be worthless!"
Worst case scenario: I only store the Pets I've actually gotten as gifts. (if prices go through the roof).
EDIT: Actually, even if the pets only unlock once (or are removed from game), even though there will be a Spike, the prices on Gift pets will still go down before GW2. After all, new characters are being created all the time, and they will eventually have pets.
The only things that could realistically go up over time are CE pets, magazine pets, and those unique reward pets.
Would work for guildies, though.
Yeah, i was thinking of buying a bunch of minis last night, and then went "Hey, wait a minute... these could be worthless!"
Worst case scenario: I only store the Pets I've actually gotten as gifts. (if prices go through the roof).
EDIT: Actually, even if the pets only unlock once (or are removed from game), even though there will be a Spike, the prices on Gift pets will still go down before GW2. After all, new characters are being created all the time, and they will eventually have pets.
The only things that could realistically go up over time are CE pets, magazine pets, and those unique reward pets.
MSecorsky
Hmm... how many people don't have a mini-devourer because they're too "low-end"...
WTS mini-devourer, 75K!
WTS mini-devourer, 75K!
Mister_Smiley
it will be intersting to see whats going to happen with mini's. We shall found out in a little bit more then a month.
Lord Feathers
Deldrimor Steel ?
We will be dealing with them in the north and we all know they make some nice things. I'm betting to see a nice spike in that as a rare armor component.
We will be dealing with them in the north and we all know they make some nice things. I'm betting to see a nice spike in that as a rare armor component.
netniwk
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Deldrimor Steel ?
We will be dealing with them in the north and we all know they make some nice things. I'm betting to see a nice spike in that as a rare armor component. The price of deldrimor steel might go up a bit,but not much. as they can be crafted for cheap materials.
We will be dealing with them in the north and we all know they make some nice things. I'm betting to see a nice spike in that as a rare armor component. The price of deldrimor steel might go up a bit,but not much. as they can be crafted for cheap materials.
You just got tomahawked
sup. vigors, black dyes... bought the sup. vigors for 10k and black dyes for 4k. I'm going to be a very wealthy man.
Lord Feathers
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The price of deldrimor steel might go up a bit,but not much. as they can be crafted for cheap materials.
True..... but then again so can Elonian Leather Squares but their price has constantly risen. Most the time when it comes to farming the cheaper materials to craft the rare ones people are generally lazy.
Enix
I tried to play the market with NF - bought a BUNCH of Superior Absorptions (knew everyone would get them for their Koss), a few major vigors, and a couple minor vigors.
Lost as much money on the ABS as I made on the Minor vigors.
The lesson is - unless you are dealing in STACKS of rare materials, you arent going to "get rich".
Lost as much money on the ABS as I made on the Minor vigors.
The lesson is - unless you are dealing in STACKS of rare materials, you arent going to "get rich".
VladDrakken
600 Diamonds at an average price of 3k FTW!
10 stacks of Deldrimor Steel (were gonna deal with the dwarves after all)
10 stacks of Deldrimor Steel (were gonna deal with the dwarves after all)
=HT=Ingram
OK silk is one that has been in the game since the beginning and never used except in beta. so Monk silk armor, is a given... Fur almost assured to be used for some kind of charr armor type...
Look at it this way. if there is not a purpose for something now, there will prob be a purpose for it in the "expansion" or what they want to say ids the last of this part of the franchise. but seeing as there are special unlocks from this game that continue on to GW2 that have no other way to get. hummm leads me to believe that eventually something new will still be going on in the current game. Just to keep the interest going in both games... so we will see ...
Personally I am stocking up on charcoal, fur, and silk. big time... thats my feeling on it... I only really want some good armor for my monk... I have used the same old fissure armor for so long now that I just want something nice and new for him... I typically change my ranger armor all the time, but not the expensive stuff. Just whatever basic armor comes around that catches my fancy.
Look at it this way. if there is not a purpose for something now, there will prob be a purpose for it in the "expansion" or what they want to say ids the last of this part of the franchise. but seeing as there are special unlocks from this game that continue on to GW2 that have no other way to get. hummm leads me to believe that eventually something new will still be going on in the current game. Just to keep the interest going in both games... so we will see ...
Personally I am stocking up on charcoal, fur, and silk. big time... thats my feeling on it... I only really want some good armor for my monk... I have used the same old fissure armor for so long now that I just want something nice and new for him... I typically change my ranger armor all the time, but not the expensive stuff. Just whatever basic armor comes around that catches my fancy.
vergerefosh
I had almost 200 fur, but I gave them all to a friend for her armour, not sure if she ever used it. ah well.
I has a diamond I got aaages ago and have been keeping hidden for EotN. Then hopefully price spike to help me get my assassin some 15K armour if there's a nice one.
I has a diamond I got aaages ago and have been keeping hidden for EotN. Then hopefully price spike to help me get my assassin some 15K armour if there's a nice one.