A Simple Question *deserves* A Simple Answer

Chunk

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This is a question directed at the Guild Wars team. It is very simple and I want an answer.

Question:

There are certain towns in Guild Wars that are infested with bots 24 hours a day. (I.E. Granite Citadel) Botters are very easy recognize because they are 55 monk/warriors and follow a specific, repeating path. One only has to observe in-game activity momentarily to discern between bots and real players. Is it not possible for someone from Arena Net to play the game for 1 hour a day and compile a list of character names of suspected botters. Just one person hanging out in the guild wars community could eliminate hundreds of botters a day. Is this method possible or is there some technical reason that human observation is frowned upon by the developers.

Skuld

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What makes you think ANet would want to stop botters?

God Apprentice

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This is the most awesome 5,094,761,942 to the second power thread on this topic.

Believe it or not they do monitor, I was in a town one time and a guy talked in the purple gaile chat saying to the idiots not using trade chat "Please use trade chat for all trade purposes."

Chunk

Chunk

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Did the purple chat say anything about botting? Stay on topic.

Etta

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I thought you stop playing GW, Chunky Chunk Chunk.

God Apprentice

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunk
Did the purple chat say anything about botting? Stay on topic.
No but the purple chat was a dev, which means they watch, which is what you wanted to know.

kurtas

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Quote:
Is it not possible for someone from Arena Net to play the game for 1 hour a day and compile a list of character names of suspected botters.
Are you kidding me? They'll never get level 70 in WoW if they're busy playing this game.

Renegade26

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300 bots a day.

Chunk

Chunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by God Apprentice
No but the purple chat was a dev, which means they watch, which is what you wanted to know.
No disrespect, but that is heresay on your part. I want an official Arena-Net response of why common sense steps are not being taken to eliminate the botting infestation.

Iuris

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First, Chunk, if you really want an answer, ask Anet. Don't post on a forum where it may, or may not, catch the eye of a passing by Anet employee.

If you want to discuss, though, here's a bit:
Anet only has so many people to do the work. And there's a lot of work competing for resources. Nothing can be done instantly, and things get some priorities. Mass lag in Germany directly affecting players is a bit more important than botting, which only affects the players in an indirect way (Guesstimate, BTW).

Second, with thousands of bot accounts banned each month, Anet seems to be doing something. However, all a botter needs is go and buy new keys to start anew. It's a hydra type fight. Why not doing more? See above.

You must realize that detecting a bot is not quite as simple as it seems. It takes time, observation, and not just in town but also in the instance.

Muspellsheimr

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More or less what he said ^ ^ ^

However, most of the bot accounts are stolen, not bought by the botters.

Oh, and their was a thread by Gaile about this a while back. If the Guru search ever begins to work, I *might* be able to find it for you.

Mournblade

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Gaile has claimed 300 bots per day are banned and she seemed pleased with that number. I predict that if she does post in this thread, it will be to reaffirm this information.

You get bonus points though for making it clear you had quit the game, and then showing up a couple months later demanding answers that had already been given from the dev team. GG

Xitoahc

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Quote:
In June, the Support Teams found, researched, verified and banned 9,009 bots. In July, they are already approaching 4,000 banned bots. As you can see, they're getting very good at this, and in nearly all cases, there is no appeal or the appeal is not supported by the facts upon undertaking a re-check. So we're making very good headway. You should be assured that the team visually checks at least 10 "hot spots for bots." Two of them are indeed Altruum Ruins and Granite Citadel, so they are very much on target. --Gaile
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:Bot

Official Word from Anet like you wanted Chunky.

Bryant Again

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
I thought you stop playing GW, Chunky Chunk Chunk.
And so therefore, he does not have a right to have a general concern over the game?

lucifer_uk

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Please try use the search feature.

The was a post about bots being discussed literally 1 day ago and Gaile even posted in it:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10177588

Redfeather1975

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As it's been said Gaile commented on the number of bots banned a day and that people from Anet pop into the 'hot spots' often to watch bot activity.
Xitoahc's link to the wiki shows that close to 400 bots a day are being banned in July!

TwinRaven

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris
First, Chunk, if you really want an answer, ask Anet. Don't post on a forum where it may, or may not, catch the eye of a passing by Anet employee.
Sorry to say it, but if you tried sending a note to ANet on such a subject, you would be likely to be referred to the forums...It happens a lot. ANet has sent a few of us an e-mail saying to post concerns here....and for the record: ANet is pretty good about looking at the forums. They may not adequately address every issue according to some folks, but they DO read over the topics and postings here....especially this forum. In the immortal words of Robert A Ripley..."Believe it or not"

lennymon

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@op it's possible, and they do it (according to them - whom I'd believe)

also @op re your title: working hard *deserves* a decent living but does that always happen?

Regarding the topic at large
Anet folks don't *need* to get rid of bots... don't need to tell us anything about it, and certainly don't need to get crapped on about what you, me or anyone else thinks about how they do what they do. I certainly don't need to know about what they do, rather nice that they are kind enough to tell us stuff don't you think? If you wanna get all wanky with Anet don't do it on guru please (just my personal request).

Coloneh

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stop complaining. are the bots hurting you? no. are the hurting the economy? no. leave em alone, what a-net is doing is working fine.

shanaya

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If the botters are buying new accounts (rather than stealing them) after they are banned then Anet is making a nice bit of revenue from them.

Iuris

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Um, bots ARE hurting the economy.

But Anet is on the job, so nothing more for us to do.

God Apprentice

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunk
No disrespect, but that is heresay on your part. I want an official Arena-Net response of why common sense steps are not being taken to eliminate the botting infestation.
Why not post this in Riverside then? Might be easier to get a dev to read this from there.

UnstopableJosh

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I played Runescape for at least 5 years and can tell you that they had a bot problem as well. They've tried programing, went to meetings, even discussed with country leaders to find a solution to the problem. What they ended up doing was making the game have near balanced trade with a little leniency depending upon the more quest points you have. If not they wrote a report that it would ruin their game. I imagine Guild Wars is undergoing the same situation and will persue a similar course of action.

Empress Amarox

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Above you.

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2007 -> 2009

Cool.

nbajammer

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Holy thread necromancy Batman!

Neo Nugget

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The OP probably does not need an answer to this question, as it is from 2 year ago

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