Non-Elite Ritualist tomes that undesired?! - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Inger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Rt

19 Jul 2007 at 03:54 - 1

For the last couple of days I've been trying to get a non-elite ritualist tome. I"ve been city to city shouting and shouting to try and get a non-elite ritualist tome. Every other class(ok maybe not paragon) i've seen ppl selling non-elite tomes for that class, but not ritualist!.

Now what i'm asking are ritualists that unpopular?... farmers just sell hte tomes to merchant or something rather than sell to players... or is it that no one farms factions so thus there is no supply of ritualist tomes?

In any case i'm getting pretty tired of shouting

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

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19 Jul 2007 at 04:02 - 2

I think ritualist tomes are possibly more rare than warrior/ranger/sin ect.
Try shouting for monk tomes. lol
I have found 2 for sale so far and they cost 1k-2.5k each.

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

19 Jul 2007 at 04:15 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I think ritualist tomes are possibly more rare than warrior/ranger/sin ect.
Try shouting for monk tomes. lol
I have found 2 for sale so far and they cost 1k-2.5k each.

Non-elite tomes for > 1k??? Who in his right mind would buy such a thing?

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

19 Jul 2007 at 04:22 - 4

If I ever bought a non elite tome it would be bought for 500g. Otherwise id just unlock the skill and pay 1k to the skill trainer npc.

Inger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Rt

19 Jul 2007 at 04:23 - 5

heh more rare... i dunno that would seem kinda fishy... i doubt anet would screw over ritualists anymore than they already have.

If indeed supply is low i would suspect it has more to do with ppl not farming factions than the tomes being inherently more rare.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

19 Jul 2007 at 04:28 - 6

In order to use a tome, you need to have the skill unlocked. If you have the skill unlocked, it's available at every skill trainer in the right campaign. So therefore, a normal tome should never be sold for more than 1k.

I think the Ritualist tomes are rare because there are very few groups that contain Ritualists that are easy to farm in Hard Mode.

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

19 Jul 2007 at 04:35 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inger

heh more rare... i dunno that would seem kinda fishy... i doubt anet would screw over ritualists anymore than they already have.

If indeed supply is low i would suspect it has more to do with ppl not farming factions than the tomes being inherently more rare.

Ever since they have been introduced ive had 1 non elite rit tome drop for me. And ive vanquished 18/33 zones in cantha.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

19 Jul 2007 at 05:09 - 8

no they are very popular, next to Monk they are probably the most spammed for. The thing is, like Monks, you generally don't see more than 1 in a mob. If I could get my hands on more Rit reg tomes I'd be very happy.
There just aren't many regular rits in NF and Factions to drop the tomes.

The Last Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

my guildhall.

Mo/

19 Jul 2007 at 06:09 - 9

you cant find them?

I keep getting them like no tomorrow and no one in my alliance ever wants them <_<, but maybe I'm just lucky.. I never go to trading districts so I never see what people have..ohwell

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

19 Jul 2007 at 06:28 - 10

Ritualist tomes are bought up extremely fast. There just aren't enough Ritualists in the game for it to drop often enough. They only really exist in Cantha... and even then they're in unpopular mobs. Naga are nasty little gits with several interrupts. Jade Brotherhood are extremely deadly with interrupts. Carp aren't exactly easy to kill. Afflicted are out of the question. The only real mob are Wardens that are killed in huge quantities because they're good for HM boss runs.

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

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19 Jul 2007 at 07:27 - 11

Nahpui Quarter seems like a good place to farm those; it's crawling with Ritualists(Star Lights). Nearly every third monster is a Rit. You could also get Monk tomes there by killing the Celestial Kirin.

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

19 Jul 2007 at 11:28 - 12

The true reason lies that non-elite rit skills can be obtained very easily.
Once you're in Kaineng center, you have access near to all factions rit skills.
Then you travel to Kamadan, and there you have all non elite nightfall rit skills.
Just by taking the boat you can almost fully build your rit.
To the contrary of Core professions, who have many prophecies skills locked far from Lion's Arch, 90% of rit and assa skills are available quite right now.
Tome rarity is based upon the easy access or not of the related skills. Most good warrior elites can be capped near the biggest towns, for example. Rit elites (aka weapon of remedy), are on the contrary very far from the starting big towns. So the high price of rit elite tomes against the low price of their non-elite counterpart.

Yichi

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Dark Alley [dR]

19 Jul 2007 at 11:33 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I think ritualist tomes are possibly more rare than warrior/ranger/sin ect.
Try shouting for monk tomes. lol
I have found 2 for sale so far and they cost 1k-2.5k each.

if youre paying more for the tome than it would cost to unlock the skill from a trainer, you need your head examined....

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

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Rhedd Asylum

Me/

19 Jul 2007 at 11:49 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

if youre paying more for the tome than it would cost to unlock the skill from a trainer, you need your head examined....

I did not buy them. I showed disbelief to the two people who offered to sell them to me.
I was going to tell them 'lol, I should just go to the skill trainer then!', but I figured I'd keep searching to see if monk tomes really are more expensive than any other profession.
I've been trying to buy monk tomes for 2 weeks now. That's the best I've seen so far.

I ended up using my last remaining skill points to get the prot spells I wanted.

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

19 Jul 2007 at 12:30 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhu

Non-elite tomes for > 1k??? Who in his right mind would buy such a thing?

I was trying to buy normal monk tomes (still am) the other day in Kamadon dist 1. Some dude PM'ed me, and tried to sell them to me at 3kEa! I was "no way! trainers sell at 1k; why would I ever want to pay more??" He didn't have a good enough reason for me to buy from him. :\

But that's just rediculous! 3k Ea my rear end!

I should just get my monk down to Ascalon anyway in normal mode. Cant be too hard to run there....

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

19 Jul 2007 at 12:33 - 16

reason peole sell the mfor so much.......people are stupid
eventually will buy them for that much
First day elite tomes came out i sole 3 monks for 25k each
people are stupid

btw i have yet to get a req or elite rit tome

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

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19 Jul 2007 at 12:33 - 17

Yeah Hayes. Monk tomes are the hardest to buy so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsnesnintendo

reason peole sell the mfor so much.......people are stupid
eventually will buy them for that much
First day elite tomes came out i sole 3 monks for 25k each
people are stupid

btw i have yet to get a req or elite rit tome

Regular tomes I have not seen, but I've seen people selling elite rit tomes in kamadan and kaineng.
Keep trying, and always go to dis 1. There is a guy who always seems to sell em.

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

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19 Jul 2007 at 12:54 - 18

It's just outragious! True, monk tomes are kinda hard to farm; it would be hard if there were like 10 monks in a area togather. But I strangly remember there was always a monk with the bug groups in Kourna. I remember being pretty successful 130 dervish'ing them to death; 55'ing would be a breeze. Hmm...

I mean, if I can take like 8 ghoals, 3 socorers, and 3 hell hounds in HM... I bet I could kill some insects. ... Oo <_< ... Shhh!

Tea Girl

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mo/Me

19 Jul 2007 at 13:07 - 19

i can hardly find normal monk tomes either

Kissa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Rt/Me

19 Jul 2007 at 13:13 - 20

I want ritualist tomes, too, but nobody seems to sell them. Maybe Rits are harder to farm.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

19 Jul 2007 at 13:29 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

if youre paying more for the tome than it would cost to unlock the skill from a trainer, you need your head examined....

You have to remember that using a tome does not require a skill point. On many newer characters, skill points aren't as plentiful as cash is (i.e. via storage).

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

19 Jul 2007 at 18:54 - 22

I think got one from a Locked Chest (yechh)...one of you can pm me if you'd like to buy it I guess...

Just Another Chest Runner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Paper St. Fight Club [Soap]

Mo/A

19 Jul 2007 at 20:20 - 23

i honestly think your best bet is chest running. i've gotten a lot of regular as well as elite tomes

and i just used my rit tomes for rit spike (dont hurt me ><)

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

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Dark Alley [dR]

19 Jul 2007 at 20:27 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

You have to remember that using a tome does not require a skill point. On many newer characters, skill points aren't as plentiful as cash is (i.e. via storage).

Very invalid argument. New characters recieve a break for all new skills purchased through a skill trainer. Besides, as a newer character, skill points are no where near difficult to come by. Even if you have none, if you pay over 1k for one of these, you need your head examined. That simple.

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

19 Jul 2007 at 20:30 - 25

hmmm... It might be that these people asking 1.5-3k for monk tomes are not such idiots. People who are trying to buy tomes are probably usually either out of skill points or trying to conserve on them... in which case the tome indeed can be worth more to the buyer than the 1k at the skills trainer.

EDIT:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Very invalid argument. New characters recieve a break for all new skills purchased through a skill trainer. Besides, as a newer character, skill points are no where near difficult to come by. Even if you have none, if you pay over 1k for one of these, you need your head examined. That simple.

I'm going for the legendary skill hunter title right now. I'm 19 elites away. I have four skill points and I'm going to make the most of them this weekend. I'm farming experience for more skill points and vanquishing concurrently. I want extinguish for my monk to use against HM Korshek in Forum Highlands. If it weren't for the fact I DO have a monk tome, I just might spend 1.5k for one (if I couldn't find one for less in a timely manner... since time is money).

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

19 Jul 2007 at 20:31 - 26

I've been doing a bit of HM Nahpui soloing with 55 Mo/N. Got a normal rit tome last night and was happy. I would say that's a good place to farm them.

(then I got a rare r9 colossal scim in Zehlon and was VERY happy)

Phantom Gun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Minion Bombing in Elona

The Drunken Dragons [DRNK]

Rt/N

19 Jul 2007 at 20:37 - 27

Well I tried to buy one for the first time last night. I spent over an hour hopping around the major trading centers "in both Cantha and Elona", and finaly got one for 2k in KC. I needed it to finish up a build for my R/Rt and I didn't feel like going through half of factions for 1 skill. So 2k was out of desperation. Anyway I do agree it's because not very mobs contain more then one or two ritualists. I doubt it's because they are unpopular.

Edit: My bad, "Undesired".

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

19 Jul 2007 at 21:12 - 28

You'd pay more than 1k/ea if you didn't have skillpoints and didn't want to grind for them.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

19 Jul 2007 at 21:16 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

Very invalid argument. New characters recieve a break for all new skills purchased through a skill trainer. Besides, as a newer character, skill points are no where near difficult to come by. Even if you have none, if you pay over 1k for one of these, you need your head examined. That simple.

You're missing my point...

If a new character has access to the storage of their other characters, money generally isn't a major concern. However, until you've gone though a few missions and accumulated enough experience to get the skill points rolling, the ability of that character to purchase skills is dictated almost entirely based on how many skill points they have, and not how much gold they have.

Therefore, one of the only routes to get more skills (than their skill points allow) early in the game is to purchase tomes. Paying 1.5K for a tome versus 1K at a skill merchant isn't that much of an incremental cost, especially if you have no skill points left to spend.

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

19 Jul 2007 at 21:56 - 30

I don't see why having a vast armory of skills is even necessary until lvl 20

the only reason to have many skills is for endgame content (elites) and farming

but that's just what floats my boat......others have their reasons

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

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19 Jul 2007 at 22:38 - 31

Inger,

I have one non-elite in storage you can have for free

<----- contact me game (euro most evenings)

sent you pm

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

19 Jul 2007 at 22:43 - 32

Yea there is no mobs (that i know of) made up of pure rits and no rit dudes are that commonly farmed. For a start they are cantha only, and unlike assassin there is no rit vermins.