Hey guys,
I'm just wondering if my system is good enough to run Gwen and Gw2?
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2 processors running - AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
2.00 GHz Performance Rated at 5.70 GHz
958.5 MB of RAM
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE (GeForce 6150 LE)
Video Card Features:
-256.0 MB Video RAM
-3D Acceleration
-Vertex/Pixel shader
Direct X 9
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Maybe you didn't need all that information...
Also, when I play GW Nightfall, my FPS is an embarrassing 10 or 11. I'm currently defragmenting my computer, but I don't know how good that will do.
If I could get suggestions on what I need and what I shouldn't worry about, that will definitely be great.
Thank you : )
Is this system good enough for GW:EN and GW2?
el eugi
Brother Andicus
In the short term(GW:EN) you'll see a vast improvement from a new graphics card. A good budget card right now is the Nvidia 7600GT.
As far as GW2 goes, we don't know the specs yet, but if those specs meet the minimum it will be only just. Also, GW2 is likely to have support for some of the pretty new features in dx10 and unless you want to miss out on those you are probably going to need a complete new machine before then.
As far as GW2 goes, we don't know the specs yet, but if those specs meet the minimum it will be only just. Also, GW2 is likely to have support for some of the pretty new features in dx10 and unless you want to miss out on those you are probably going to need a complete new machine before then.
el eugi
I hear ya...
I can play GW:EN and 2 in pretty minimal requirements as long as I don't lag terribly...
I can play GW:EN and 2 in pretty minimal requirements as long as I don't lag terribly...
Kyuuba
everything you have except for the video card is enough to play GW:EN and GW2.
look into getting a budget video card like as suggested.
Geforce 7600GT(~$100) or 8600GT (~$130), the latter supporting DX10.
look into getting a budget video card like as suggested.
Geforce 7600GT(~$100) or 8600GT (~$130), the latter supporting DX10.
scrinner
That card is laughable. Sorry to say. I am 99.99% Sure that wont work for Gw2. It'll barely work for anything these days anyways. Get a 7600. With that you should be able to meet the minimum of GW2. 8600 Is even better.
Note... From your Ram it seems your Graphic Card is integrated. You have 1 gig of ram but your card is feeding off your ram
Note... From your Ram it seems your Graphic Card is integrated. You have 1 gig of ram but your card is feeding off your ram
el eugi
Haha, no worries, I know my video card isn't very good.
By integrated do you mean that I can't replace it with another card?
By integrated do you mean that I can't replace it with another card?
eggrolls
you can replace it. since you have a 6150, the motherboard most likely has a pci-e slot, which will work with any of the video cards mentioned.
hellyea526
you can replace it with another card, integrated just means the card itself doesn't have memory so it takes memory from your ram
just rude
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Haha, no worries, I know my video card isn't very good.
By integrated do you mean that I can't replace it with another card? |
By integrated he means it is PART of your motherboard, also you may have to disable it thru your BIOS the press f* button, the message that comes up as soon as your pc boots. You should see a splash screen with the name of who put together your PC, i.e., HP or Dell.
Your comp looks fine. Look at the min specs for GW its like a 10yrs old machine, which is nice.
edit: Hell makes the most half right statement ever period
yes it will suck your ram, the card being INTEGRATED, although I'm sure they can make an integrated card with its own memory, but why all integrated stuff sux, except NICs.
el eugi
Neat : ) Thanks guys.
So, how will I know that I have to disable the video card before I install, say, the Nvidia 7600GT one? I'm guessing instructions will be brought with the video card package but since you mentioned it...
Also, I asked one of the sales associate at Future Shop how I can find out what kind of video card my computer has, say, PCI or otherwise. He said that I have to actually look inside my computer, beside the motherboard or something? And that if there's a brown logo then it's PCI?
Is that really the only way to check or is there maybe another method?
Thanks again : D
So, how will I know that I have to disable the video card before I install, say, the Nvidia 7600GT one? I'm guessing instructions will be brought with the video card package but since you mentioned it...
Also, I asked one of the sales associate at Future Shop how I can find out what kind of video card my computer has, say, PCI or otherwise. He said that I have to actually look inside my computer, beside the motherboard or something? And that if there's a brown logo then it's PCI?
Is that really the only way to check or is there maybe another method?
Thanks again : D
Malice Black
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Neat : ) Thanks guys.
So, how will I know that I have to disable the video card before I install, say, the Nvidia 7600GT one? I'm guessing instructions will be brought with the video card package but since you mentioned it... Also, I asked one of the sales associate at Future Shop how I can find out what kind of video card my computer has, say, PCI or otherwise. He said that I have to actually look inside my computer, beside the motherboard or something? And that if there's a brown logo then it's PCI? Is that really the only way to check or is there maybe another method? Thanks again : D |
see here: http://www.nvidia.com/page/gpu_mobo_features.html
SigurdTheBalmung
It would be easier for people to suggest an upgrade if you could give the motherboard info from your DXDiag file. Like others have said, your GPU is integrated onto the motherboard. You can't remove it, but you can disable it and use another card. The 7600GT is a great little budget card, but note that it is a budget card. By the time GW2 is released you may need an upgrade. For GWEN it will be fine. The important part to note is specifically what slots you have available to you, AGP or PCI-E.
deathy
That's a lot better than my system, and mine run perfectly well, doubt it would cope with gw2 though...
el eugi
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It would be easier for people to suggest an upgrade if you could give the motherboard info from your DXDiag file. Like others have said, your GPU is integrated onto the motherboard. You can't remove it, but you can disable it and use another card. The 7600GT is a great little budget card, but note that it is a budget card. By the time GW2 is released you may need an upgrade. For GWEN it will be fine. The important part to note is specifically what slots you have available to you, AGP or PCI-E.
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Brother Andicus
Go to the windows start menu and select the Run option.
In the box that appears type dxdiag.
In the box that appears type dxdiag.
Josh
Are you telling me your not upgrading that rig at all for the next 3 or so years? Remember, Guild Wars 2 is released in 2010...
Your rig really deserves a good upgrade, seriously!
Your rig really deserves a good upgrade, seriously!
el eugi
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Are you telling me your not upgrading that rig at all for the next 3 or so years? Remember, Guild Wars 2 is released in 2010...
Your rig really deserves a good upgrade, seriously! |
Thanks to Brother Andicus' help, I was able to find the DXDiag page. There are plenty of tabs, but I have no knowledge of what to do with them. It's sad I know so little of computers - _ -
Brother Andicus
To get your dxdiag information in a format for others to look at press the save all information button. This will then save a .txt file to your chosen location. Then simply copy and paste into the forum.
As far as upgrading goes, i'd go for a 7600gt to tide you over for now. It'll set you back around £70. You've then got at least a year to save for a complete new machine for GW2.
As far as upgrading goes, i'd go for a 7600gt to tide you over for now. It'll set you back around £70. You've then got at least a year to save for a complete new machine for GW2.
el eugi
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Originally Posted by Brother Andicus
To get your dxdiag information in a format for others to look at press the save all information button. This will then save a .txt file to your chosen location. Then simply copy and paste into the forum.
As far as upgrading goes, i'd go for a 7600gt to tide you over for now. It'll set you back around £70. You've then got at least a year to save for a complete new machine for GW2. |
DXDiag Stuff (but not everything)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 958MB RAM
Page File: 313MB used, 2000MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6150 LE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0241&SUBSYS_2A34103C&REV_A2
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 16:22:00, 4527488 bytes
JAK3US
Do you know the name of your motherboard? That would help a lot. If possible, try to find the name of your power supply unit. Just open the side of your computer and take a look at the box with all of the wires coming out. If you have a weak PSU, you might have to upgrade that too.
EF2NYD
AMD+Nvidia onboard = most likely an nforce board, which usually have a graphics card slot. Open the case and see if you do.
Div
You need more RAM on your computer. Also it helps to turn the graphics settings down. My laptop has 32mb video memory but still runs at about 25fps.
el eugi
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AMD+Nvidia onboard = most likely an nforce board, which usually have a graphics card slot. Open the case and see if you do.
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Is the PSU a black bock beside the fan that has black, red and yellow wires coming out of it? I'm not exactly sure what the name of my motherboard is because I'm not familiar with the way that a motherboard looks like. I know where my hardrive is - whereabouts around the hardrive is it?
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Arganius
I think a 6800xt should be fine. It should be able to handle max with 2x AA on EN i bet. Not a kickass FPS probably though. You could get about 20fps average im guessing
el eugi
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I think a 6800xt should be fine. It should be able to handle max with 2x AA on EN i bet. Not a kickass FPS probably though. You could get about 20fps average im guessing
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The highest I've gotten is 30 or 31, and that's playing Prophecies.
JAK3US
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AMD+Nvidia onboard = most likely an nforce board, which usually have a graphics card slot. Open the case and see if you do.
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Is the PSU a black bock beside the fan that has black, red and yellow wires coming out of it? I'm not exactly sure what the name of my motherboard is because I'm not familiar with the way that a motherboard looks like. I know where my hardrive is - whereabouts around the hardrive is it?
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I was actually in your situation just last week. For the upgrades, you definitely don't need more RAM. Trust me 1 GB is enough for now. The only thing I would recommend is to get a new video card. After you get the specs on your motherboard and PSU, we can help you make the right choice.
Don't plan for GW2 this early, as current computer parts will be outdated by then.
~JAK3US
el eugi
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Your PSU is the object that the power cord plugs into on your PC (should be the black box).Your motherboard is the big board that everything is connected to. I was actually in your situation just last week. For the upgrades, you definitely don't need more RAM. Trust me 1 GB is enough for now. The only thing I would recommend is to get a new video card. After you get the specs on your motherboard and PSU, we can help you make the right choice. Don't plan for GW2 this early, as current computer parts will be outdated by then. ~JAK3US |
The black box I was talking about has company name or something, and it's Sunon. Underneath there's a bunch of numbers and letters and stuff, nothing that makes much sense, so it might be the wrong thing perhaps? What does a PSU spec/code look like?
And for the motherboard, would the name of the motherboard be enough or are there specs on that too? It's really hard to find it though, because there are thick wires covering everything.
Sorry for putting you guys through this...
eggrolls
PSU labels look like this: http://www.legitreviews.com/images/r...z700_label.jpg
Taking a picture of yours and posting it might be a good idea...
What brand and model is your computer? It sounds like it's some pre-built Dell, HP, or whatever brand it is. If you have the model number (probably a sticker on the outside of your case somewhere), it would be easy to figure out what you can upgrade.
Taking a picture of yours and posting it might be a good idea...
What brand and model is your computer? It sounds like it's some pre-built Dell, HP, or whatever brand it is. If you have the model number (probably a sticker on the outside of your case somewhere), it would be easy to figure out what you can upgrade.
JAK3US
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Hey, thank you for your help by the way : )
The black box I was talking about has company name or something, and it's Sunon. Underneath there's a bunch of numbers and letters and stuff, nothing that makes much sense, so it might be the wrong thing perhaps? What does a PSU spec/code look like? And for the motherboard, would the name of the motherboard be enough or are there specs on that too? It's really hard to find it though, because there are thick wires covering everything. Sorry for putting you guys through this... |
For your PSU what you mainly need to look for is the number of watts and the rating under the 12v. Taking a picture of the label would help a lot.
We need the specs of the motherboard, but the name would be sufficient to find the rest of the stuff out. as eggrolls pointed out, if you bought it from a company the model number would be enough.
el eugi
: D Sadly I don't have a camera anymore... but I think I found the PSU (and maybe the motherboard, if these numbers and names make sense).
Hipro
AC Input - 47 - 63 Hz
There are then a bunch of different numbers for the DC output
+5v AND +3.3v "Shall not exceed" 175W
+5v AND +12v "Shall not exceed" 268W
"Max Output Power" 300W
Sunon
13.F.GN
1.6 W
I think that Hipro is my PSU...
Btw, this is the most friendly community I've ever encountered. It's refreshing, really : P
Hipro
AC Input - 47 - 63 Hz
There are then a bunch of different numbers for the DC output
+5v AND +3.3v "Shall not exceed" 175W
+5v AND +12v "Shall not exceed" 268W
"Max Output Power" 300W
Sunon
13.F.GN
1.6 W
I think that Hipro is my PSU...
Btw, this is the most friendly community I've ever encountered. It's refreshing, really : P
Luna Halvemoon
with that PSU you won't be able to put in a 7600GT, let alone a 8600GT...
that psu is only 300W, and "brandless" for that matter.
I suggest upgrading it like this:
2×1gb Ram and make it run in dual channel
New PSU, with good brand like Zalman or Coolermaster etc at least 400W
New GFX card, 8600GT is a nice card for this system.
I suggest going to your local computer shop, or where you bought it (unless it's a dell or something)
For the rest you can easily play GW on highest setting (most newer games as well).
But the videocard you have now is just a laugh :P
that psu is only 300W, and "brandless" for that matter.
I suggest upgrading it like this:
2×1gb Ram and make it run in dual channel
New PSU, with good brand like Zalman or Coolermaster etc at least 400W
New GFX card, 8600GT is a nice card for this system.
I suggest going to your local computer shop, or where you bought it (unless it's a dell or something)
For the rest you can easily play GW on highest setting (most newer games as well).
But the videocard you have now is just a laugh :P
Gorebrex
i AGREE WITH lUNA, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ram YOU GET IS CAPABLE OF DUAL CHANNEL. (lol caps lock got me) Another good P/S bran is Antec, which is what Im using now(450W Smartpower). And you definitely want a DX10 capable videocard, preferably at least 256MB, but 512MB would be much better.
Arganius
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And you'd be right : P
The highest I've gotten is 30 or 31, and that's playing Prophecies. |
Its possible some of the locked pipelines are faulty and you will get artifacts. Just disable them until you pinpoint the faulty one and don't use it.
Also theres overclocking. I got my core clock to 360 and memory to 666 (not to be satanic. That was the max setting for safety). Of course you should find your own setting and if your new to overclocking find a guide, because i will not be responsible when smoke comes from your PC
el eugi
Heh, it seems I have tons of options.
I didn't realize how terrible my system is until I read all of these things I should've known. Surely I can go to my local computer shop and get it upgraded, but it might be best to buy a new system with all the above said features on it.
Do you guys think that it would be cheaper in the long run if I do so or would upgrading the individual parts be less costly?
I didn't realize how terrible my system is until I read all of these things I should've known. Surely I can go to my local computer shop and get it upgraded, but it might be best to buy a new system with all the above said features on it.
Do you guys think that it would be cheaper in the long run if I do so or would upgrading the individual parts be less costly?