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Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

23 Jul 2007 at 19:57 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

That's awfully generous.

I give GW:EN a maximum of two months before players become bored with it. (which is double what I've experienced in Nightfall, so that's my blind optimism talking) While that is my opinion, how often can you replay the same dungeons, really?

However, if ArenaNet did indeed lie and the Reputation Grind is severe...I'm not sure what to expect. I would expect players to quit out of anger of grind, so the question would be moot.

Zinger I have to ask this, and before I do I want to state that I respect you and your opinions and on several occasions we have agreed on many issues, however, it seems that many times you seem outright disgusted by Guild Wars and Arena Net and this begs the question; why do you continue to post on these forums and presumably play? Now again this isn't one of those stupid rants where I yell " You never say anything nice GTFO!" It's just an honest question.

On Topic though I doubt GW2 will "kill" GW. I mean look at Diablo. I know that people were still playing Diablo long after Diablo 2 had come out. Shoot Diablo 2 is still played by a fairly robust community, granted nowhere near WoW proportions , but enough that they keep the lights on for them.

HardWonFame

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Purdue University, West Lafayette IN

Seven Samurai [SvnS]

N/Me

23 Jul 2007 at 20:21 - 82

Guild Wars 2 wont kill guild wars, but it will be far more popular if Anet continues its trend of great games.

I honestly don't understand why people are so afraid to put guild wars behind them.

chesterocks7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

R/Mo

23 Jul 2007 at 20:43 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardWonFame

Guild Wars 2 wont kill guild wars, but it will be far more popular if Anet continues its trend of great games.

I honestly don't understand why people are so afraid to put guild wars behind them.

who said anything about being afraid to put the game behind us. you speak about it like you are obliged to forget a game once a sequal comes out. the point is with all three chapters and the upcoming expansion(s) and with all the characters we have there is so much to do and so much with these games we want to still do in the future, that we dont want the guild war servers shut down. im sure GW2 will be amazing, but as you get older ive found you have less and less time for video games, and id rather play a few good games to their full potential than a whole slew of good games just barely tapping into what they have to offer. it makes me feel like i really am getting my moneys worth.

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

24 Jul 2007 at 03:18 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyClone

I think a small cluster of GW players are simply miserable because something that they exploited was taken away. So, they will endlessly troll the forum trying to get Anet's attention.. but don't worry Anet don't listen to them spoiled brats anyway.

I believe there will be 2 more expansions before GW2 comes out to alleviate some "boring" factors that the hard core gamers(exploiters) need to stay happy for that long.

And it's possible that those speculated expansions will re-new the reasons to play the original campains.

Just even everything out. Like weapons that can be inscribed should be accessible across the whole game. Not just in Elona and further expansions. Think about it, Anet. You want people to play your WHOLE world, but ONLY a certain part of the world has access to what's keeping the people happy. No matter how many expansions you throw in and no matter how many events you generate to get people to play those again, never gonna happen unless you even the playing field. With Loot Scaling and Hard Mode.. nice.. you made some people go back and accomplish some good.. but they get uninscribable loot in Older campains.. which are now pretty much worthless unless perfect. Access to heroes should also be Cross game.

All SUCCESSFUL features that have been implemented in the past 2 years should be accessible in ALL of GW world.

But it's hard to determine a successful feature unless people STOP complaining about puny skill nerfs. 1 skill nerf should not make anyone quit a game that has over 400 skills to choose from .. seriously.. use your brains and stop being "spoiled" with them cookie cutter builds.

And if you are PVPer and complain that game is broken, tough luck.. nothing lasts forever. If you think you can keep the exact same build for 3 years and get your rank 10 Gladiator without even sweating, you're obviously overpowered. The point of RA is to test more than 1 build. Not domination with only 1 build. Earn your rank, then talk.

EDIT @ Mad Pig: speechless? finally.

Hear Hear

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

24 Jul 2007 at 12:47 - 85

If Anet takes 2-3 years to release GW2 without any major updates in between, I'm certain that a large chunk of players will be long gone.

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

24 Jul 2007 at 21:52 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyClone

I think a small cluster of GW players are simply miserable because something that they exploited was taken away. So, they will endlessly troll the forum trying to get Anet's attention.. but don't worry Anet don't listen to them spoiled brats anyway.

I believe there will be 2 more expansions before GW2 comes out to alleviate some "boring" factors that the hard core gamers(exploiters) need to stay happy for that long.

And it's possible that those speculated expansions will re-new the reasons to play the original campains.

Just even everything out. Like weapons that can be inscribed should be accessible across the whole game. Not just in Elona and further expansions. Think about it, Anet. You want people to play your WHOLE world, but ONLY a certain part of the world has access to what's keeping the people happy. No matter how many expansions you throw in and no matter how many events you generate to get people to play those again, never gonna happen unless you even the playing field. With Loot Scaling and Hard Mode.. nice.. you made some people go back and accomplish some good.. but they get uninscribable loot in Older campains.. which are now pretty much worthless unless perfect. Access to heroes should also be Cross game.

All SUCCESSFUL features that have been implemented in the past 2 years should be accessible in ALL of GW world.

But it's hard to determine a successful feature unless people STOP complaining about puny skill nerfs. 1 skill nerf should not make anyone quit a game that has over 400 skills to choose from .. seriously.. use your brains and stop being "spoiled" with them cookie cutter builds.

And if you are PVPer and complain that game is broken, tough luck.. nothing lasts forever. If you think you can keep the exact same build for 3 years and get your rank 10 Gladiator without even sweating, you're obviously overpowered. The point of RA is to test more than 1 build. Not domination with only 1 build. Earn your rank, then talk.

EDIT @ Mad Pig: speechless? finally.

can we meet in person? i think im in love.

finally someone tells it like it is and people shut up. so many complainers, and no one doing anything but sit and write it all down for those as depressed as the other kid sitting in front of his computer going, "OH OH OH, MEEEE TOOO! I FEEL THE SAME WAY!!".

if you don't like the game, leave, no one will miss you at all, this game has over 3 million and growing players that will fill your size 9 shoes, and if you don't care so much, pm me in game and give me all your "crap
seeing as you wont need it anyhow.

gg
gg
gg
gogogogogogogogo away.

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

24 Jul 2007 at 22:11 - 87

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Originally Posted by Chop it Off

please, if you wish to enter an argument, know what your talking about.

I can agree with that.

Quote:

and if anet REALLY wanted to kill botters, they'd just nerf the base build skills and not mess around.

namely prot spirit

You can't.

Seriously, is it just me, or is there alot more "gw is dead" whiners here, than on GWO?

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

25 Jul 2007 at 02:47 - 88

I wanna start out by saying that I am not a troll or GW hater or anything. I know that for saying this, right out of the game, will just make me more suspicious and really make me seem like a zealot undercover psycho GW hater with hidden motives, but I am really not. It's just hard for me to explain my "feelings".

My own concerns is that I love GW. I will most likely buy GW2. But I really like GW1. And I really want to keep playing it.

But to have fun within the game its needed to have a robust community. With 3 full games connected, and a massive expansions, that is really really massive on the PvE side, we have so many instanced areas, towns, cities, outposts and mission areas, that for the game not to become a ghost town with way to few players, something will have to be done.

In a code red senario, all districts could be merged. American, European, Chinese, Korean. Everything in one. The language barrier would be better than the few being completely alone without seeing any other players.

Secondly, I just hate that GW2 is called GW2. Numbered sequels is so lame and clichee. It's just down right bad taste and screams immaturies. If they absolutely must do a GW2, they should call it guild wars: [insert sub-title]!

For me it just gives a bad first impression.

Thirdly, hall of Momentuns give a nice oppotunity(sp?). I hope that GW2 will have a option to buy GW+all campaigns and GWEN for a good price, so all new GW2 players can see the world as it was 200 years prior. They could rebrand it online, as "discovering the past for GW". They could even use it as a test ground for GW2, or change things and add things and/or hint to things that will in GW2, because of the timeline.

Fourthly I would like to see a option for GW1 players to be able to host their own pvp servers, and perhaps play an offline or online co-op version of GW, hosted on player owned servers.

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

25 Jul 2007 at 03:00 - 89

everything the guy above me said was fine till PServers were mentioned. PServers are almost always trash and a waste of developer's time...

gasmaskman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

None, I don't play anymore.

Mo/W

25 Jul 2007 at 03:08 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyClone

And if you are PVPer and complain that game is broken, tough luck.. nothing lasts forever. If you think you can keep the exact same build for 3 years and get your rank 10 Gladiator without even sweating, you're obviously overpowered. The point of RA is to test more than 1 build. Not domination with only 1 build. Earn your rank, then talk.

I can't even think of a good response to this idiocy.

PvP has died for me along time ago, and it's dead for many others. Lack of skill balance, ignoring the (Pvp) players, etc. all contributed to that downfall.

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

25 Jul 2007 at 03:13 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasmaskman

I can't even think of a good response to this idiocy.

PvP has died for me along time ago, and it's dead for many others. Lack of skill balance, ignoring the (Pvp) players, etc. all contributed to that downfall.

another whiner.

the only thing unbalanced atm is a few necro hexes, and even then, most team builds can fight through it. get over yourself.

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

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25 Jul 2007 at 08:39 - 92

I love Gw, its one of the best games ive ever played. Although im still not Sold on GW2 (sounds too much like WoW) but ill give Anet the benefit of the doubt and will probally buy it anyways. Either way ill be playing GW right up till GW2 is released, and very probally afterwards too.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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25 Jul 2007 at 08:47 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

I love Gw, its one of the best games ive ever played. Although im still not Sold on GW2 (sounds too much like WoW) but ill give Anet the benefit of the doubt and will probally buy it anyways. Either way ill be playing GW right up till GW2 is released, and very probally afterwards too.

Ok, I'm kind of with you, but one thing that is really pissing me off is people comparing EVERYTHING now with WoW

WoW IS NOT original people... hell, if you've played other MMO's, woW is actually a step back...

however, what ANet are doing is using things they know and are proven to work and removing things that didn't work in GW1... Hell, Jeff Strain himself said they'd just do it to GW1 if the game engine allowed it, however, to do it would catastrophically break the game as it is now, probably killing it 100%, so the easiest way is to make a new game, using a radically modified game engine with new elements that are known and proven to work (CoH/V's buddy system for instance), persistant worlds and instanced storyline missions and GW1's own map traveling system...

GW2 will give PvE what they want and PvP'ers a proper balanced PvP experience, going by what we've read so far and I for one can't wait...

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

25 Jul 2007 at 09:02 - 94

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Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive

It amuses me every time when I read all those "the game is already dead" and the "this killed the game", no wait, "that killed the game" statements.

Some people must have a very different definition for "dead" than I have. I can't argue with anybody who doesn't enjoy the game anymore, for whatever reasen. It is a matter of taste after all. But a game that is played by thousands and thousands of people all around the clock surely isn't "dead", is it?

As for the original question: I expect Guild Wars to stick around for quite a long time. It will of course continue to live in the shadows, as by far the most of Anets attention will go to GW2.

You know, these kids will continue playing anyway, just like the "experienced" PvPers will be back unless the really went off to Fury or WoW as they always threaten (which is always amusing). The Gladiator's Forum is still full of inactive players' whines. They just can't let loose. Time to grow up and learn to make choices.

HardWonFame

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Purdue University, West Lafayette IN

Seven Samurai [SvnS]

N/Me

25 Jul 2007 at 09:09 - 95

WoW is actually a good comparison tool. As it is now the industry standard for MMO success. You wont get anywhere by ignoring your competition.

But on the actual question; again, no. How do you kill a game exactly? Even so labeled 'dead games' are still played, like SWG, FFXI, I would say Auto Assault but that one actually is dead lol.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

25 Jul 2007 at 09:50 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surena

You know, these kids will continue playing anyway, just like the "experienced" PvPers will be back unless the really went off to Fury or WoW as they always threaten (which is always amusing). The Gladiator's Forum is still full of inactive players' whines. They just can't let loose. Time to grow up and learn to make choices.

Fury is incredible. It took all of an hour of prebeta play to determine this.

Just saying.

With regards to Guild Wars... I wouldn't be surprised if GW2 wiped it out, especially as a lot of the replay value has been taken out of Guild Wars, in my view. There now really isn't much to do - to keep active, a game either needs achievements or new content. Then again, as the business model is entirely built on getting new players to start rather than current players to stay, that might not be too much of a problem.

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

25 Jul 2007 at 11:51 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

I love Gw, its one of the best games ive ever played. Although im still not Sold on GW2 (sounds too much like WoW) but ill give Anet the benefit of the doubt and will probally buy it anyways. Either way ill be playing GW right up till GW2 is released, and very probally afterwards too.

I think that I will do that too. Just keep playing GW1, and then if GW2 is good I will buy that, and play it ASWELL.

LOLERCAUST

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

L337

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25 Jul 2007 at 13:40 - 98

can i use my previous chars from GW1 on to GW2?

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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25 Jul 2007 at 13:42 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOLERCAUST

can i use my previous chars from GW1 on to GW2?

you can link characters and your GW2 characters that share the name of one of your GW1 characters inheret things through the hall of monuments, so in a way, yes

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

25 Jul 2007 at 15:22 - 100

if you have nothing to do in the game, and you're not having fun because you cry about what you think is a lack of balance and blah blah blah, then quit. if you're actually honestly looking for something to do till gw:en, i know i didn't enjoy NF very much, so i beat it with all of my main chars (4) and my other 4 were just left with proph and facts beaten. then i took all my favs and got them all the best looking armor sets imo, which was like 5-7 each, depending on who it was. i also dyed them either black, or some crazy neon color, so i had to get dye too. then i went out and got a type of weapon for every situation (zeal, vamp, ect.. i had most already, but i got stuff for like, elementals ect).

this all gave me some stuff to do to keep the boredom of NF away, and when i wasn't doing that, i was in various districts making conversation, so that the community could get together instead of whining in all chat.

if you used to like the game, and now you don't because you think some "retard" developer made some wrong choices, then either leave, and dont bother those of us who still love the game with your inactive status and negativity, or do somthing constructive, like give back to our community, with newbie aid and tips. no one likes a whiner.

Dodgers777

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

25 Jul 2007 at 18:23 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ork Pride

A.Net will kill Guild Wars before next year.

Seems like the vast majority of people come to GW forums to complain. Those that like the game don't.

gasmaskman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

None, I don't play anymore.

Mo/W

25 Jul 2007 at 19:53 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mekkakat

another whiner.

the only thing unbalanced atm is a few necro hexes, and even then, most team builds can fight through it. get over yourself.

That's not even the whole problem. Maybe you should actually PvP before making a statement?

chesterocks7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ancient Dragoons [AGED]

R/Mo

25 Jul 2007 at 21:23 - 103

i get a kick out of all these ppl who think that because theyve lost interest in the game, it is dead.

havent you heard the news? the sun isnt really the center of the universe, you are!

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

26 Jul 2007 at 12:53 - 104

A question though: Are any of you sad that you will have to say goodbye to your characters in GW1? I know that HoM will make it easier but still. Wont you miss these characters that you have spent so much time creating?

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

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26 Jul 2007 at 13:10 - 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

A question though: Are any of you sad that you will have to say goodbye to your characters in GW1? I know that HoM will make it easier but still. Wont you miss these characters that you have spent so much time creating?

Not at all, as i know they will always be there to go back and do things with...

And anyway, having GW2 just gives me more to do with my characters and more outings to do with my guild as we all go for more titles

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

29 Jul 2007 at 01:53 - 106

yeah but if everyone leaves GW1, why would you go back to it? would you still have fun just playing all by yourself?

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

29 Jul 2007 at 01:59 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

yeah but if everyone leaves GW1, why would you go back to it? would you still have fun just playing all by yourself?

I am sure alot of people on this forum have fun playing with themselves. But at any cost it all depends on how good the game is, for me at least. If GW2 sucks then sure ill play GW1, but if it is really good Ill probably put it away. Its just like the way I am with MOH:AA, I used to play that game all the time for like 2 or 3 years straight and now I barelly play it but I do pick it up every now and then.

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

29 Jul 2007 at 01:59 - 108

i still play diabo2...you cant kill a game which shakes the the very foundations of uh...gaming like that.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 Jul 2007 at 04:20 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeper Service

i still play diabo2...you cant kill a game which shakes the the very foundations of uh...gaming like that.

Bring back the Warrior!

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

29 Jul 2007 at 08:07 - 110

PvP in this game, while not officially dead, is seriously diminished in status. I was watching Virtual Dragons and No Observable Talent in the monthly championship series when suddenly someone said something in obschat, and I was actually surprised to see someone on. Then I thought about what obs was like when I started playing. It was filled with people talking non-stop in nearly every game on obs. There was a sense of excitment about what was going on. That, sadly, is long gone. It all has the feeling to me of the curtain having falling and the show having left town. There are still some people milling around in the seats talking about what was, but otherwise its over. I wish this wasn't the case, but its the sense I get, and its the sense that most people I talk to get. Maybe there can be a resurgence, but most likely that resurgence will be GW2.

Its easy to say things like "if you don't like it just leave", but its exactly because people liked the game that they don't. We don't want it to be this way, and we hang around in the hope that something can happen to make PvP work again like it did.

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

29 Jul 2007 at 09:23 - 111

I think it will be dead by GW 2 like people have said pve is more or less just grind now, Gw:en will revive it for a while, but not for too long. And pvp will need some kind or fix if its to live i mean pve cant go on forever nor do i expect it too. Its pvp that needs a rethink to become what it once was. Whether the change needed is skill balance or somthing else i dunno though.

Fossa

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

29 Jul 2007 at 18:12 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodgers777

Seems like the vast majority of people come to GW forums to complain. Those that like the game don't.

No, people who complain at people complaining show up too. The people who stopped playing doesn't show up however.

Lets hope GW2 will be so good that it destroys GW.

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

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30 Jul 2007 at 03:52 - 113

this is lame.

guild wars has only been out for about 2 years and already there is the plan for a whole new sequel.

I was expecting at least 6 years before having to hear about this.

and after this expansion there is no plans for another expansion/campaign (except for some secret project they are working on we don't know what it is yet, might be GW, might not be) I don't know how they expect us to keep playing an unchanged game for 2 years.

I mean nightfall came out then it's like "there will be GWEN that there is nothing planned after that"

I feel betrayed, when guild wars was being advertised they made claims of releasing expansions and whatnot EVERY 6 months. They have only fulfilled that claim one time with nightfall, factions took an entire year and GWEN will be about 10 months after NF.

If GW2 comes out I feel the end will be near for GW because i feel there will be no more expansions to buy.

Everquest still makes expansions for EQ1!!! i don't play it but if I wanted to pay the money for it I would play EQ1.

They better be making another GW expansion as that secret project. This makes me so ticked >.< and after GW2 they still better be doing this or at LEAST continue free add ons.

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Jul 2007 at 07:37 - 114

Will Guild Wars 2 Kill off Guild Wars? We can only hope so. If GW2 doesn't interest gamers more then the original then it has failed. It's hard to predict what the community will be like for the first game, but there are some things i'd like to point out.

Let's talk about the Hall of Monuments for a minute. Once GW2 is released will players still be able to go back to the original and acquire accomplishments that will benefit them? If so, for how long? If it's permanent and the rewards are good then I don't see the original game dying off much.

People will continue to play the original for nostalgic reasons. I'm sure at some point in my playing of GW2 i'll want to go back to the original just to do some things for fun, but it really all depends on how good Guild Wars 2 is. It's very hard to say.

If Guild Wars 2 is as good as I hope it will be then my main reasons for going back is to either clarify some storyline plots (least I forget) or to get more rewards in GW2 via the monument.

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Jul 2007 at 07:45 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

this is lame.

guild wars has only been out for about 2 years and already there is the plan for a whole new sequel.

I was expecting at least 6 years before having to hear about this.

and after this expansion there is no plans for another expansion/campaign (except for some secret project they are working on we don't know what it is yet, might be GW, might not be) I don't know how they expect us to keep playing an unchanged game for 2 years.

I mean nightfall came out then it's like "there will be GWEN that there is nothing planned after that"

I feel betrayed, when guild wars was being advertised they made claims of releasing expansions and whatnot EVERY 6 months. They have only fulfilled that claim one time with nightfall, factions took an entire year and GWEN will be about 10 months after NF.

If GW2 comes out I feel the end will be near for GW because i feel there will be no more expansions to buy.

Everquest still makes expansions for EQ1!!! i don't play it but if I wanted to pay the money for it I would play EQ1.

They better be making another GW expansion as that secret project. This makes me so ticked >.< and after GW2 they still better be doing this or at LEAST continue free add ons.

I know how you feel and I'm glad you mentioned EQ. EQ2 failed compared to the original mainly because people played it for so long they came to be too attached. There were so many expansions for EQ before they released the sequel, people felt they spent too much time and money on it just to have to start all over again. While I think Guild Wars could certainly keep going with expansions and even new chapters you have to realize how much more difficult it then is to move forward.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

30 Jul 2007 at 09:23 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart

this is lame.

guild wars has only been out for about 2 years and already there is the plan for a whole new sequel.

I was expecting at least 6 years before having to hear about this.

and after this expansion there is no plans for another expansion/campaign (except for some secret project they are working on we don't know what it is yet, might be GW, might not be) I don't know how they expect us to keep playing an unchanged game for 2 years.

I mean nightfall came out then it's like "there will be GWEN that there is nothing planned after that"

I feel betrayed, when guild wars was being advertised they made claims of releasing expansions and whatnot EVERY 6 months. They have only fulfilled that claim one time with nightfall, factions took an entire year and GWEN will be about 10 months after NF.

If GW2 comes out I feel the end will be near for GW because i feel there will be no more expansions to buy.

Everquest still makes expansions for EQ1!!! i don't play it but if I wanted to pay the money for it I would play EQ1.

They better be making another GW expansion as that secret project. This makes me so ticked >.< and after GW2 they still better be doing this or at LEAST continue free add ons.

DOOM MONGERER! I CHOOSE YOU!!!

oh shut up... How can GW1 kill off GW2 when they are linked together for achievements and titles and the hall of monuments...

i'm sure GW2 players would go crazy nuts if all their inhereted items and things suddenly dissappered because your GW1 hall of monuments dissapeared...

Nah GW2 will breath new player life into GW1, when new players come over and realise they can get sweet skins and crap like that if they make a character of the same name in GW1 and get achievements and titles and put them in the hall of monuments

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

30 Jul 2007 at 09:39 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

DOOM MONGERER! I CHOOSE YOU!!!

oh shut up... How can GW1 kill off GW2 when they are linked together for achievements and titles and the hall of monuments...

i'm sure GW2 players would go crazy nuts if all their inhereted items and things suddenly dissappered because your GW1 hall of monuments dissapeared...

Nah GW2 will breath new player life into GW1, when new players come over and realise they can get sweet skins and crap like that if they make a character of the same name in GW1 and get achievements and titles and put them in the hall of monuments

I'm not sure if you really meant to quote Fox or me. I'm the one who mentioned hall of monuments but neither of us said anything about GW1 killing of GW2. Neither one of us said anything about your achievements disappearing after obtaining them either. The argument I was making is after GW2 is released will we still be able to go back to the original and complete more accomplishments to get rewards in GW2 and if so for how long? It would be nice to think you can go back to GW1 at any time after GW2 is released to achieve new things but Anet may decide otherwise because that would be taking focus off of their newest product. Another reason would be veteran status. If any schmuck can pick up GW1 well after GW2 is out and get the bonuses from the monuments then to some people it losses it's quality. Consider it in the same sense of the divine aura or the CE dances. I personally would rather it be an unlimited time frame but I wish someone from Anet can clarify their plans on that.

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

30 Jul 2007 at 09:41 - 118

People are still playing UO today. So by the time GW2 comes out, GW1 will be what? 4 years old. There will be people playing it, maybe more contents will be release, I don't know. Will GW1 die? I doubt it. Will I be playing GW1 in 2009? Probably not. Will I keep GW1 on my HD? You bet I will.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

30 Jul 2007 at 09:52 - 119

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

I'm not sure if you really meant to quote Fox or me. I'm the one who mentioned hall of monuments but neither of us said anything about GW1 killing of GW2. Neither one of us said anything about your achievements disappearing after obtaining them either. The argument I was making is after GW2 is released will we still be able to go back to the original and complete more accomplishments to get rewards in GW2 and if so for how long? It would be nice to think you can go back to GW1 at any time after GW2 is released to achieve new things but Anet may decide otherwise because that would be taking focus off of their newest product. Another reason would be veteran status. If any schmuck can pick up GW1 well after GW2 is out and get the bonuses from the monuments then to some people it losses it's quality. Consider it in the same sense of the divine aura or the CE dances. I personally would rather it be an unlimited time frame but I wish someone from Anet can clarify their plans on that.

i just quoted onmass

But yes, it has been said in many interviews that the GW1 servers will not be shut down whilst people play them, mainly, I believe, because they will be in the same servers as GW2, but thats just my best educated guess

Frank Dudenstein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Jul 2007 at 10:37 - 120

What stupid question ... of course GW2 won't kill GW1 ... I mean...

Did the Automobile kill the Horse 'n Buggy?
Did the Calculator kill the Abacus?
Did the Oven kill the 'Big Pot over the Fire'?
Did Penicillin kill the Leech?

Of COURSE GW1 will continue strong for many years once GW2 is released....