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countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

21 Jul 2007 at 20:26 - 1

Both of these were from July 20th...

Chat log in Kamadan ID1

So purchases in the PlayNC store do count towards the bonus mission pack.

Taken from Gaile News on the Wiki
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gaile_News

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile News July 20

If you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars Official (online) Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free. (Note: This offer does not apply to purchases made in the PlayNC store, but only to those made through in-game store.)

So purchases in the PlayNC store do not count towards the bonus mission pack.

It is a bit confusing. Has the policy changed? If so, how? Which of these statements is true? Gaile, if you could clear this up, that would be great.

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

21 Jul 2007 at 20:50 - 2

just play safe and buy from the online store

captain_carter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

England

The X Viles [TXV]

R/

21 Jul 2007 at 21:01 - 3

And IF it HAS changed, must the entire amount be spent in one store, or could it be split across the 2?

But yes I would just use the ingame online store since it seems simpler

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

21 Jul 2007 at 22:11 - 4

you could easily refer to the ingame store as PlayNC cause it is.

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 00:13 - 5

Every time someone calls a mission a mish, god kills a kitten.

Hou Lifu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Modus Operandi [MO]

22 Jul 2007 at 00:32 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Every time someone calls a mission a mish, god kills a kitten.

In that case, I'm so excited for these new mishes coming out. I really hope the mishes are released earlier in November rather than later, as later-release bonus mishes would herald with them quite an unpleasant wait. Also, I'm looking forward to the Eye of the North mishes.

Dogs > Cats.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

22 Jul 2007 at 00:34 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Every time someone calls a mission a mish, god kills a kitten.

And when someone says q9 instead of req.9 God kills a bunny.

I think Gaile might have thought you were talking about the Online Store and didn't distinguish between the PlayNC and GW Online Stores. It's an easy mistake to make.

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

22 Jul 2007 at 01:55 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Every time someone calls a mission a mish, god kills a kitten.

Thanks my kitten died.

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

22 Jul 2007 at 02:35 - 9

Quote:

So purchases in the PlayNC store do not count towards the bonus mission pack.

Well this sux if it's true cuz I was on guildwars.com yesterday morning and saw the link to purchase the pre-release bonus pack and it took me to the plaync store and thats where I purchased it. Geeze, I thought the PlayNC Store was the same as the in game store.

It shouldn't really matter where you bought the PBP (plaync or in game). Someone should have coded the the online game codes to reflect the purchase whether it be plaync store or in game so that you rightfully get the credit towards the $29.

Gaile, please give us the heads up on this!

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

22 Jul 2007 at 03:01 - 10

I would assume the policy has not changed and that it was a slip up by Gaile.

But yeah....a clarification by Gaile is definitely needed now.

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

22 Jul 2007 at 05:38 - 11

Just for the record, I really really really want to buy it in a store instead. I want a box i can hold and cuddle.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 06:04 - 12

We are just now finalizing (or finalising for some

) details about how we can accommodate purchases made in either the in-game or PlayNC stores, so as to give credit for the purchase of the GW:EN Prerelease Bonus Pack and the game, as well. Or actually, any purchase past the required amount spent (in dollars, pounds, or euros), so that players can acquire the Bonus Mission Pack.

We have not formalized this process, but yes, purchases in either the in-game or PlayNC store will be credited towards the BMP. And yes, jammerpa, this is retroactive to the start of the promotion. I'm just writing up messaging to send to our global community teams, so that they can share this happy news, too. We're not ready for the formal announcement, but this will be happening and I'm happy to share that with you informally now.

AydenV2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

[TCD]

Mo/Me

22 Jul 2007 at 06:07 - 13

Gaile, is the bonus mission pack going to be sold individually later on?

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 06:15 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by AydenV2

Gaile, is the bonus mission pack going to be sold individually later on?

I don't know of any plans to do that. It's a bonus in the fall timeframe. Whether sales or marketing decides to offer it for sale later, I just don't know. I can say that I feel sure it wouldn't be offered for sale right away, if at all.

Sorry I don't know more!

AydenV2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

[TCD]

Mo/Me

22 Jul 2007 at 06:17 - 15

Thats alright, thanks for the info. I think I will get me some more character slots, I want that BMP bad!

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

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22 Jul 2007 at 06:24 - 16

thanks for the clarificaton there gaile, dispite the plaync store being utterly confusing, i am glad that my preorder will go towards the BMP.

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

22 Jul 2007 at 06:25 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

We have not formalized this process, but yes, purchases in either the in-game or PlayNC store will be credited towards the BMP. We're not ready for the formal announcement, but this will be happening and I'm happy to share that with you informally now.

Thank you very much for the clarification. I was looking through the chat log and was surprised(pleasently) to see the PlayNC purchases gave credit for the BMP. Then when I later looked through the wiki, I became confused. Thanks again for unmuddying the waters.

Countess

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

22 Jul 2007 at 06:36 - 18

Just one thing I would like to know:
Is the criteria accumulative, or not?

Will lots of purchases (that total $29) during the period give players the Mission Pack, or does the money have to be spent in a SINGLE purchase?

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 06:51 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

Just one thing I would like to know:
Is the criteria accumulative, or not?

Will lots of purchases (that total $29) during the period give players the Mission Pack, or does the money have to be spent in a SINGLE purchase?

Yep, that's another edit I'm going to do--already did in a draft--because it is cumulative. You can spend $10 here, $5 there. As long as it adds up to the required amount, say $29, by October 31st, you've got the BMP on your account, automatically.

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 07:16 - 20

So if I understand it right then, past purchases from the store will not count towards the bonus missions, and you have to buy during a specific period of time (which is when- November, or is that just the release and deadline for getting it?)

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

22 Jul 2007 at 08:34 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Every time someone calls a mission a mish, god kills a kitten.

It certainly doesn't sound good here in GW, but in CoH/CoV where we have missions rather than quests- it's a common term. I think people just carry it over.

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

22 Jul 2007 at 08:41 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Palidore

So if I understand it right then, past purchases from the store will not count towards the bonus missions, and you have to buy during a specific period of time (which is when- November, or is that just the release and deadline for getting it?)

Past purchases do not count... and the period purchases will count in is July 5th 2007 to October 31st 2007

If they did count I'd qualify at least twice on both of my accounts just with character slot purchases

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

22 Jul 2007 at 12:48 - 23

And I too thank you for your prompt response Gaile.

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

22 Jul 2007 at 13:40 - 24

Thanks for the info Gaile. One question; is it possible to view your current credit towards the BMP? Or view dates of purchases?
Thanks in advance.

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

22 Jul 2007 at 16:02 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNovember

Thanks for the info Gaile. One question; is it possible to view your current credit towards the BMP? Or view dates of purchases?
Thanks in advance.

I would like to know this also.

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

22 Jul 2007 at 16:49 - 26

I just placed an order for the £3.99 GWEN thing, is that just the pre-order pack or the whole add-on?

I have already bought all the campaigns and a PVP edition (other 2 campaigns unlocked myself with faction), and already have 15 character slots, so unless GWEN is going to cost £17 and not the £3.99 I just paid, I cant get these bonus missions. No I dont need anymore character slots tyvm.

So could I ask that Anet consider mine and others past purchases on the online store to contribute towards the bonus missions?

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

22 Jul 2007 at 17:28 - 27

3.99 I believe is for the preorder. That'll get deducted from GW:EN's actual price. But you will have to pay more for the actual game.

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

22 Jul 2007 at 17:39 - 28

The past purchases dose not count huh? ... i feel cheated anet.You force me to buy a product like GWEN with out a box and stuff for more then what i payed for factions or nightfall when they were released.If i get it from not in game store,it should be alot less expensive and i will get package and stuff in it as well.I do not see logic in this and it angers me.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

22 Jul 2007 at 19:05 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageMaster

The past purchases dose not count huh? ... i feel cheated anet.You force me to buy a product like GWEN with out a box and stuff for more then what i payed for factions or nightfall when they were released.If i get it from not in game store,it should be alot less expensive and i will get package and stuff in it as well.I do not see logic in this and it angers me.

WTS: Glasses.

If you read all of the posts, the BMP is 100% retroactive. Anything you've bought in the store, little or large, counts towards the $29 required to recieve the bonus pack. They're also working on adding PlayNC store purchases count towards the $29. If you've spent $29 in the store, you will get the BMP.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 19:51 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

WTS: Glasses.

If you read all of the posts, the BMP is 100% retroactive. Anything you've bought in the store, little or large, counts towards the $29 required to recieve the bonus pack. They're also working on adding PlayNC store purchases count towards the $29. If you've spent $29 in the store, you will get the BMP.

WTS: Clue.

If you read all of the posts, and pay attention to the details. It is not 100% retroactive, it is retroactive to the start of the promotion period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

this is retroactive to the start of the promotion.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

22 Jul 2007 at 21:06 - 31

Ah right. I take it back. That's kinda scroogey marketing if the pruchases have to be made with in a cetain time. I thought it was a loyalty reward and a slight incentive to buy online products rather than soley an incentive to pluck up cash. That means that if you want the mission pack you have to purchase something even if you don't want/need it.

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

22 Jul 2007 at 21:29 - 32

This is a PROMOTION for GW:EN. Why can't everybody see that. A promotion only runs for a specific length of time hence the name. If you just buy GW:EN you will qualify for the BMP.

The discussion about the pricing and about no box is in another thread btw.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

22 Jul 2007 at 23:04 - 33

Guys,

First, yes, you can check your balance--and add up how close you are to the BMP--through the PlayNC interface. www.PlayNC.com. Go to Account / Account Management / Billing Summary. (I think that's right, please let me know if you need more help.)

Secondly, come on, folks, this is a promotion or a purchase incentive, not a "loyalty reward." We do have a lot of loyalty rewards, if you think about it: birthday miniatures, holiday items that are never repeated, special emotes for the CE's, etc. But this is not a loyalty reward, and asking us to give credit for this content because of a purchase made in 2005 is like asking your butcher to give you last month's sale price for ground beef.

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

23 Jul 2007 at 00:34 - 34

I think what's bothering people is this... You can purchase GW:EN for $29.99 from some online retailers. Currently Fry's is offering the pre-order for this price. So if Fry's can offer the game at that price, why cant NCsoft? Especially since there is practically no overhead because there is no box, dvd disc, etc. and the profit is all NCsofts. All you're selling is an email with the game code in it.

I understand that NCsoft has to establish an MSRP for the game. But that's for a retail boxed version and merchants can charge whatever they want to. Surely you can understand that all we want is a fair price for what we are getting.

So while we're not looking for last month's sale price for ground beef, we don't like paying more for 1/2 a pound while others are paying less for a pound.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

23 Jul 2007 at 01:23 - 35

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammerpa

I think what's bothering people is this... You can purchase GW:EN for $29.99 from some online retailers. Currently Fry's is offering the pre-order for this price. So if Fry's can offer the game at that price, why cant NCsoft?

they could but dont forget FRIES has to charge state sales tax.................oops to make the price even with the online store they have to charge the same price LESS TAX

if online there is SHIPPING PLUS TAX.....double oops.

real life example why i am using the online store is i SAVE 10 DOLLARS AND POCKET CHANGE over my usual online/retail store.

if the online store was the same retail bargain price the retailer which is over 96 percent of their sales would lose money on every copy by meeting the price than giving free tax and shipping at the retailers expence. losing money on each copy sold

Mercury Angel

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

23 Jul 2007 at 01:46 - 36

[QUOTE=Loviatar]

Quote:

they could but dont forget FRIES has to charge state sales tax.................oops to make the price even with the online store they have to charge the same price LESS TAX

if online there is SHIPPING PLUS TAX.....double oops.

real life example why i am using the online store is i SAVE 10 DOLLARS AND POCKET CHANGE over my usual online/retail store.

if the online store was the same retail bargain price the retailer which is over 96 percent of their sales would lose money on every copy by meeting the price than giving free tax and shipping at the retailers expence. losing money on each copy sold

The majority of purchases in the continental US by US citizens online from businesses within the US are tax free. States can not levy taxes on interstate commerce, and unless you happen to live in a real hotspot for businesses, and even if you do, most of the time when you shop online, you're not going to have to pay any taxes.
For in-store vs shipped online, it's a bit of a toss-up. For a purchase of a $29.99 game, you'd pay $2.50 in taxes about, at my state's tax rate, and shipping would either be free, a common promotion for some online businesses, or $3.95 for standard shipping costs.
As a general rule, it's a better deal to get the game from a third party when possible, particularly at the point in time where stores begin to sell them cheaper, which is not going to happen in the online store, as with that Nightfall promotion, selling it for $20 a while back, I think. Might have been $30, but the specifics really aren't important.

The online store is still nice. You can get the game almost instantly, no hassle, no worrying about whether or not the local store has it in stock, or the third party online business is going to rip you off, and I used it for Nightfall, with no regrets.

This is getting a bit off-topic, however.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

23 Jul 2007 at 02:03 - 37

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

The majority of purchases in the continental US by US citizens online from businesses within the US are tax free. States can not levy taxes on interstate commerce, and unless you happen to live in a real hotspot for businesses, and even if you do, most of the time when you shop online, you're not going to have to pay any taxes.
For in-store vs shipped online, it's a bit of a toss-up. For a purchase of a $29.99 game, you'd pay $2.50 in taxes about, at my state's tax rate, and shipping would either be free, a common promotion for some online businesses, or $3.95 for standard shipping costs.[/

gamestop charges calif tax and 1 grade up from bottom feeder shipping is 6.99

newegg is close in price as well.

i was speaking from actual figures not guessing.

cheers

Nekretaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

23 Jul 2007 at 18:30 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammerpa

I think what's bothering people is this... You can purchase GW:EN for $29.99 from some online retailers. Currently Fry's is offering the pre-order for this price. So if Fry's can offer the game at that price, why cant NCsoft?

Guild wars nightfall went into the bargain bin after 6 weeks. I bought an extra copy in December (the game came out in October) for $19.99.

Actually, I think this promotion will save me more money this time. If people buy the game from the online store, then the unsold copies will pile up at the retailer... and it will hit the bargain bin even faster.

I have already decided that my Sweet spot for GWEN is $24.99. I will not pay more than that for what amounts to a couple of maps (and a hall of monuments that gives, at best, something like a divine aura in GW2). Yeah, people say that I cant be competitive in GW without it, but as I am not currently playing GW its no big loss. Maybe I change my mind once there are reviews of the game or after the preview event. Right now, GWEN is not worth $40 to me, so I have to calculate whether 4 future missions are really worth the difference.

Nekretaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

23 Jul 2007 at 19:42 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammerpa

I think what's bothering people is this... You can purchase GW:EN for $29.99 from some online retailers. Currently Fry's is offering the pre-order for this price. So if Fry's can offer the game at that price, why cant NCsoft?

Guild wars nightfall went into the bargain bin after 6 weeks. I bought an extra copy in December (the game came out in October) for $19.99.

Actually, I think this promotion will save me more money this time. If people buy the game from the online store, then the unsold copies will pile up at the retailer... and it will hit the bargain bin even faster.

I have already decided that my Sweet spot for GWEN is $24.99. I will not pay more than that for what amounts to a couple of maps (and a hall of monuments that gives, at best, something like a divine aura in GW2). Yeah, people say that I cant be competitive in GW without it, but as I am not currently playing GW its no big loss. Maybe I change my mind once there are reviews of the game or after the preview event. Right now, GWEN is not worth $40 to me, so I have to calculate whether 4 future missions are really worth the difference.

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

23 Jul 2007 at 20:51 - 40

Indeed,those 4 bonus missions however atractive are not worth to pay 20 euros for.I think ill buy GWEN here in hungary for about 24 euros with preorder. Dessupointing actualy, id love to do those missions but its just too damn expensive to give 1/5 of the moths pay for the expansion pack and 4 missions.