Gwen a hero?

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Does anyone know if Gwen will be a hero? I know she's in the game, but it doesn't say if she'll actually be a customizable hero. And if she is, what profession will she be? She could be a monk, since she ran around healing you in Pre-Searing. But she could also be a warrior, as she said she wanted to be warrior like her father in one of her dialogs, but she also said she likes mesmer outfits, so perhaps she'll be a mesmer. I think it would be awesome if she was a mesmer. Better than Norgu if you ask me. hehe Plus her outfit kind of looks like a mesmer's. Anyone care to comment?

pamelf

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By the looks of it she's a mesmer...And I'm pretty sure she will be a hero, unless she plays more of a role like Master Togo in Factions, or Kormir in NF.

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maybe she'll be a hammer wielding monk in a mesmer's dress?
actually my guess is she's a mesmer and one of the pve skills will be a weak heal called "Gwen's Song" or something.

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She can't be a Hero, cuz then players could travel to other campaigns with Gwen, spoiling the truth for the players that don't have the expansion. Also would create a paradox, and we don't want that...

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If she is a part of the plot she might play more of a roll like Kormir did in NF, join us for some missions and primary quests, would be nice if Gwen is a hero though.

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Originally Posted by Apok Omen
She can't be a Hero, cuz then players could travel to other campaigns with Gwen, spoiling the truth for the players that don't have the expansion. Also would create a paradox, and we don't want that... But there already is the trailer, the screenshots, and the concept art out there. People from other campaigns wouldn't even really know when gwen is anyway...

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While I'm not all that of a fan of Gwen, one thing makes me think she might be a hero. Two different armors:

Notice how in the trailer she wears one kind of armor which is also shown in a screen shot, and the high-res images showing her match the same image PC Gamer showed in May. It wouldn't surprise me that in EoTN we'll be able to upgrade hero armors, and currently we've seen Gwen with two armors.

Just my thoughts though.

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I think she might the "few surprises"

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RbX

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Some people looked it up in the gw.dat already: She is a mesmer hero.

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Originally Posted by RbX
Some people looked it up in the gw.dat already: She is a mesmer hero. You know that ANET could change things there before GW:EN goes live.

But if Gwen is a hero, I'm wondering what will happen if we take her down to UW where her mother is looking for her.

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On this screenshot from official site, Gwen is wielding some kind of mesmer focus and air wand, so she's going to be mesmer or ele, I think...

http://www.guildwars.com/images/scre...scr006-lrg.jpg

Clord

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I guess it is like in Nightfall, mission require that least one player add Gwen to party list before mission can be started.

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Originally Posted by bilateralrope
I'm wondering what will happen if we take her down to UW where her mother is looking for her. She'd ask Gwen for her cut in the gold that she gets from selling all the flowers, capes and flutes she scams off people.

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Originally Posted by bilateralrope
But if Gwen is a hero, I'm wondering what will happen if we take her down to UW where her mother is looking for her. You'll need Gwen in the party for the quest to escort her mother to Mayor Alegheri.

P.S. Oh, and don't forget your tapestry shred!

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Originally Posted by RbX
Some people looked it up in the gw.dat already: She is a mesmer hero. If the game was ready to be on your gw.dat then the game would be out by now. They would lose to much money waiting until a certain date to release when they could have weeks ago.

So because of that never be certain of things until the final release you never know maybe they planted that there to make you think that she will be a hero

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My own pet theory is that yes, Gwen will be a Hero, and what is more, she will be multi-profession.

My reasons for guessing this are as follows:

1) In the latest In-Game trailer, Gwen is seen dressed in what can only be a Ranger costume.

2) On the armour/character pictures already discussed in other threads, she is dressed as a mesmer.

No other character that I can think of has appeared dressed in the armour of a different profession to their primary class even in cut scenes. We have already seen Gwen dressed as two very different professions.

3) In Prophecies, when we first meet Gwen, she wanted to be a warrior like her father. (I know this is weak, but I still think it is important, and yes, I know that the rest of the quote says something like "but I do think the mesmer costumes are nicer")

4) She has already demonstrated monk healing skills when she follows you around in pre-searing.

This covers four of the primary Guild Wars classes, Ranger, Mesmer, Warrior and Monk.

We were semi-promised a multi-profession hero in Nightfall, but for what ever reason we did not get one. Maybe now we will :-)

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For the argument that Gwen can't be a hero, because it would make no sense to have her in post-searing Ascalon: The game is not based on a set timeline. Ie, if you join a guy with the Titan quest activated, you will see Titans, even if you aren't at that point of the story.

Therefore, in your post-searing ascalon, Gwen is a young adult, and a Hero. As for spoilers, such is the fate of MMORPGs. I found out Althea was dead when someone spammed "Selling Althea's Ashes". Hell, people who played the preview of Nightfall all the way through, knew that Varesh was evil before anyone else.

IMO, Gwen will be a Mesmer. She is shown with a Mesmer offhand weapon in a photo, her clothes look more Mesmerish than Ranger to me (even in the preview), and we know there will only be 10 heros. That strongly suggests one hero for each profession.

With Pyre the Charr already taking the Ranger spot, it's unlikely they'll have two Rangers.

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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
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1) In the latest In-Game trailer, Gwen is seen dressed in what can only be a Ranger costume. Really? I thought the armour looked similar to Mesmer Rogues...

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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
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1) In the latest In-Game trailer, Gwen is seen dressed in what can only be a Ranger costume. Really? I thought the armour looked similar to Mesmer Rogues...

Mister_Smiley

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We already have some EOTN on out computer, as in the last big patch, just look at the map and that should tell you. As for Gwen, she will be a hero mesmer most likey. Also she will not be a ranger, as it has been said that there will be 1 of each class on eotn.

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Originally Posted by Technicolour
If the game was ready to be on your gw.dat then the game would be out by now. They would lose to much money waiting until a certain date to release when they could have weeks ago.

So because of that never be certain of things until the final release you never know maybe they planted that there to make you think that she will be a hero Heroes are not changeable like skills..just look at nightfall..they are tied in the story and are a design element. So at the end you can be pretty sure that she will be a hero as her fate ist by far the most important in the game because she is part of the official trailer in such a great way.

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Originally Posted by RbX
Heroes are not changeable like skills..just look at nightfall..they are tied in the story and are a design element. So at the end you can be pretty sure that she will be a hero as her fate ist by far the most important in the game because she is part of the official trailer in such a great way. Well, you convinced me!

The only question now is when we'll meet up with her. I'm thinking in the Shiverpeaks, she'll be an ally of the Norn?

Hmm, totally speculative question:

Who do you think we'll meet first, Jora or Gwen?

WinterSnowblind

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I'm guessing Jora, they did say you meet up with her almost immediately.

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The story is branched, but we first meet with Jora I thnk

Norn: Help Jora to deal with her *******
Charr: Meet Gwen, an ally of Ebon Vanguard and confront the Charr
Asura: Have some fun with the golems

Then it all converges on the battle with the Great Destroyer.

Mordakai

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune
The story is branched:

Norn: Help Jora to deal with her *******
Charr: Meet Gwen, an ally of Ebon Vanguard and confront the Charr
Asura: Have some fun with the golems

Then it all converges on the battle with the Great Destroyer. Not bad guesses.

I assume we'll meet Pyre, the Charr Ranger when we meet Gwen, too.

Oh, and we'll meet the Dwarf hero sometime as well.

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Originally Posted by Mordakai
I assume we'll meet Pyre, the Charr Ranger when we meet Gwen, too. I bet the meeting will be quite heated

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I bet the meeting will be quite heated Unless Pyre played a part in rescueing Gwen as a little girl.

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I recon she most likely will be
people are saying that gwen wont becuase it would ruin the other games if you travelled there with gwen hero. i think this is stupid; there is already a paradox between the games anyway and Gwen has always been there so it wouldnt ruin it. besides i think everyone knows gwen was still alive

I recon becuase the story branches; there will be different heros at the start

Norn branch starts with jora
Char branch starts with char
Asura branch with the asura

etc....then they tie in and gwen will be where they tie in i recon.

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Originally Posted by Praetorian®
On this screenshot from official site, Gwen is wielding some kind of mesmer focus and air wand, so she's going to be mesmer or ele, I think...

http://www.guildwars.com/images/scre...scr006-lrg.jpg
Qft. I always said she was kinda touched in the head...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
My own pet theory is that yes, Gwen will be a Hero, and what is more, she will be multi-profession.

My reasons for guessing this are as follows:

1) In the latest In-Game trailer, Gwen is seen dressed in what can only be a Ranger costume.

2) On the armour/character pictures already discussed in other threads, she is dressed as a mesmer.

No other character that I can think of has appeared dressed in the armour of a different profession to their primary class even in cut scenes. We have already seen Gwen dressed as two very different professions.

3) In Prophecies, when we first meet Gwen, she wanted to be a warrior like her father. (I know this is weak, but I still think it is important, and yes, I know that the rest of the quote says something like "but I do think the mesmer costumes are nicer")

4) She has already demonstrated monk healing skills when she follows you around in pre-searing.

This covers four of the primary Guild Wars classes, Ranger, Mesmer, Warrior and Monk.

We were semi-promised a multi-profession hero in Nightfall, but for what ever reason we did not get one. Maybe now we will :-) Did you forget her little fiery experiment at the end of the betas? I know it was just a fun way to kill everyone but you never know with the designers...

Clord

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Originally Posted by prism2525
Qft. I always said she was kinda touched in the head...


Did you forget her little fiery experiment at the end of the betas? I know it was just a fun way to kill everyone but you never know with the designers... GW:EN preview event might have some nice surprise when it ends (what is weird event anyway considering that only few days after game is released).

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The reason that there wasn't a multi-professional hero in Nightfall (and why there most likely won't be on in GW:EN) is that it would be hell to manage the runed armor of a multi-professional hero. If you have a hero set as an elementalist and put a Sup fire on it's head, then change it into a warrior, what happens with that sup fire headpiece? It most definitely can't stay on a warrior's armor.

Does it automatically drop off your hero's runes into your inventory? You can't do that because what if someone switched the heroes class while their inventory was full.

Does the game choose to store 10 seperate armor sets, including runes, insignias, and armor appearance upgrades for one measely hero? I don't think it'd be worth it to store all that extra data on their server.

If Gwen has any bit of multi-professionalism about it, it might only be that she comes as a Me/W with IW and an AI that does well with melee builds.

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This may be a bit corny, but it's a feasible intro to Pyre and how Gwen made it north...

Pyre went through the motions of the invasion of Ascalon. He had been whipped into the same blood fervor as the other Charr by the Shaman and was ready to destroy the humans... but when a High Shaman reached into the crowd, pulled out Pyre's own youngest kit and in one motion sacrificed her on the altar... he knew this was wrong. But he was Charr, so he went through the motions. His party was mopping up survivors outside the ruined Ascalon when he heard a whimper in the bushes. Parting the bushes with his bow he saw a small human child. A female. Like his kit. Pyre hesitated.

Captain Kruk noticed Pyre staring into the bushes and heard the human female child. "Ah, good find Kruk! Let us feast on this one together!" The girl screamed.

Pyre's kit screamed in her final moments.

Something snapped in Pyre. In a fluid motion he drew an arrow and released it into the throat of Kruk. Barely more than a gurgle crossed Kruks lips as he collapsed to the ground. "Get on my back, now!" he yelled to the girl. She screamed again and crawled further back into the bushes. More softly: "They will still find you. Get on my back now if you want to live." This time she complied. But now what?

He heard rumors that some packs of humans were heading into the Northern Great Mountains (the Shriveled Peaks the humans call them?) to escape. That's where he would take the girl. Drop her off close to humans, and go. Somewhere. Pyre began to ran, with the stamina and endurance only a Charr possesses. Hours passed as did the distance. From his back he began to hear soft music. His legs found new strength as he ran.

Free Runner

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Norn Arc: Jora
Charr Arc: Pyre
Ebon Vanguard Arc: Gwen
Asura Arc: Vekk
Deldrimor Arc: Odgen

Well thats my speculation anyway. Ebon Vanguard and Charr Arc will probably play out at the same time.

I doubt Gwen is multi profession. Only her desires to be ether a Warrior or a Mesmer are ever mentioned. For the Monk and Ele argument: She uses her flute to heal not Monk spells and the Beta endings never impact the storyline.

Hell we already have 15 heros so add on 10 more and we have 25 heros altogether.If the heros are of all 10 Professions in EotN it will mean 3 Rangers,3 Warriors,3 Eles,3 Necros,3 Monks,2 Mesmers,2 Assassins,2 Rits,2 Paragons and 2 Dervishs. Why would they add a Variable Profession hero when they dont need to in the first place?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
This may be a bit corny, but it's a feasible intro to Pyre and how Gwen made it north...

Pyre went through the motions of the invasion of Ascalon. He had been whipped into the same blood fervor as the other Charr by the Shaman and was ready to destroy the humans... but when a High Shaman reached into the crowd, pulled out Pyre's own youngest kit and in one motion sacrificed her on the altar... he knew this was wrong. But he was Charr, so he went through the motions. His party was mopping up survivors outside the ruined Ascalon when he heard a whimper in the bushes. Parting the bushes with his bow he saw a small human child. A female. Like his kit. Pyre hesitated.

Captain Kruk noticed Pyre staring into the bushes and heard the human female child. "Ah, good find Kruk! Let us feast on this one together!" The girl screamed.

Pyre's kit screamed in her final moments.

Something snapped in Pyre. In a fluid motion he drew an arrow and released it into the throat of Kruk. Barely more than a gurgle crossed Kruks lips as he collapsed to the ground. "Get on my back, now!" he yelled to the girl. She screamed again and crawled further back into the bushes. More softly: "They will still find you. Get on my back now if you want to live." This time she complied. But now what?

He heard rumors that some packs of humans were heading into the Northern Great Mountains (the Shriveled Peaks the humans call them?) to escape. That's where he would take the girl. Drop her off close to humans, and go. Somewhere. Pyre began to ran, with the stamina and endurance only a Charr possesses. Hours passed as did the distance. From his back he began to hear soft music. His legs found new strength as he ran. That is a very nice story, MSecorsky I just feel that the actual story was not so nice....

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Originally Posted by pamelf
By the looks of it she's a mesmer...And I'm pretty sure she will be a hero, unless she plays more of a role like Master Togo in Factions, or Kormir in NF. So basically what you're saying is.... she'll be dead by the end of the game. Well that sucks......

We're getting so many reports about what class Gwen might be I really hope it turns out that maybe her class is variable. Her armour probably changes automatically depending on what class you make her. If that turns out to be true, she's permanantly in my heroes party as an asstank.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
This may be a bit corny, but it's a feasible intro to Pyre and how Gwen made it north...

Pyre went through the motions of the invasion of Ascalon. He had been whipped into the same blood fervor as the other Charr by the Shaman and was ready to destroy the humans... but when a High Shaman reached into the crowd, pulled out Pyre's own youngest kit and in one motion sacrificed her on the altar... he knew this was wrong. But he was Charr, so he went through the motions. His party was mopping up survivors outside the ruined Ascalon when he heard a whimper in the bushes. Parting the bushes with his bow he saw a small human child. A female. Like his kit. Pyre hesitated.

Captain Kruk noticed Pyre staring into the bushes and heard the human female child. "Ah, good find Kruk! Let us feast on this one together!" The girl screamed.

Pyre's kit screamed in her final moments.

Something snapped in Pyre. In a fluid motion he drew an arrow and released it into the throat of Kruk. Barely more than a gurgle crossed Kruks lips as he collapsed to the ground. "Get on my back, now!" he yelled to the girl. She screamed again and crawled further back into the bushes. More softly: "They will still find you. Get on my back now if you want to live." This time she complied. But now what?

He heard rumors that some packs of humans were heading into the Northern Great Mountains (the Shriveled Peaks the humans call them?) to escape. That's where he would take the girl. Drop her off close to humans, and go. Somewhere. Pyre began to ran, with the stamina and endurance only a Charr possesses. Hours passed as did the distance. From his back he began to hear soft music. His legs found new strength as he ran. If only Anets writers were this good... guildwars would have around 7 million customers instead of the 3 mil they have now

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Originally Posted by Apok Omen
She can't be a Hero, cuz then players could travel to other campaigns with Gwen, spoiling the truth for the players that don't have the expansion. Also would create a paradox, and we don't want that... How would it create a paradox?

You can't take her back to Pre-Searing to meet herself anyway...and if two or more players have a Gwen hero equipped it would probably rename one as "Ascalon Mesmer", like when you have 2 Razahs in your party, one is renamed Ritualist Entity.

Also, if someone wanted to spoil the storyline for people that much you wouldn't need Gwen in your party, you could just go around the major cities shouting "GWEN IS A HERO IN EYE OF THE NORTH!!11!!!1!!"....to which you would probably get the reply.... "we know".