Lottery
Baroness Scarlett
I was thinking we could buy a lottery ticket for 10g each and all the accumulated money goes to the winner every friday. They could make an announcement in the loggin screen with the name of the winner. It shouldn't be a problem because they are not creating new money.
Zinger314
Besides the fact that lotteries are, you know, illegal in several states...
MithranArkanere
Ahem...
He said 'gil', that is Final Fantasy money.
He should say 'gold', that is, ingame money.
Such a thing could be somehow an unnecesaryload for the servers.
But as long as it actually destroys money (the winners would get only small %s of the income, and around 10..25% of the total collection would just banish) so it were actually a gold sink.
He said 'gil', that is Final Fantasy money.
He should say 'gold', that is, ingame money.
Such a thing could be somehow an unnecesaryload for the servers.
But as long as it actually destroys money (the winners would get only small %s of the income, and around 10..25% of the total collection would just banish) so it were actually a gold sink.
wetsparks
Instead of a lottery make it a 50-50 raffle drawing, that way money gets taken out of the game like ANET wants, and someone would still win something. That should get past the illegality of lotteries if what Zinger says is true.
Diddy bow
/signed
a few things like this wouldnt hurt i dont think ^^.
a few things like this wouldnt hurt i dont think ^^.
MithranArkanere
Don't worry.
Only REAL lotteries are illegal. One ingame with igname money would not be a problem.
Only REAL lotteries are illegal. One ingame with igname money would not be a problem.
genofreek
Lotteries that don't involve actual dollars aren't illegal, or Kingdom of Loathing's casino would be SOL right about now. :P
I like the raffle idea better than the lottery one, though. They can put up a decent item, a certain amount of booze/candy or a rune/mod and have everyone buy some tickets. One person wins. Awesome goldsink.
Maybe it can count towards Lucky/Unlucky, too.
But however it's best implemented, raffle or lottery, I don't think the winner's name should be displayed. They'd get all sorts of harrassment ingame from beggers or scammers hoping to pry something nice off of an ignorant, lucky noob.
I like the raffle idea better than the lottery one, though. They can put up a decent item, a certain amount of booze/candy or a rune/mod and have everyone buy some tickets. One person wins. Awesome goldsink.
Maybe it can count towards Lucky/Unlucky, too.
But however it's best implemented, raffle or lottery, I don't think the winner's name should be displayed. They'd get all sorts of harrassment ingame from beggers or scammers hoping to pry something nice off of an ignorant, lucky noob.
Onarik Amrak
Reminds me of a Green Day song:
"Losers winning big on the lottery"...
"Losers winning big on the lottery"...
MithranArkanere
Hm... weekly raffles...
They could raffle each week 1..100 items only available in special events or with special packages... the item would be random, and the tickets would cost... let's say... 1000 gold.
The more you purchase, the more chances you have to win.
Tickets won't be items, they would just be data in a server, so checking the tickets anyone has would not be necessary.
Then, each monday, you talk to the Xunlai Lottery/Raffle Agent, and you get your price (if any)
They could raffle each week 1..100 items only available in special events or with special packages... the item would be random, and the tickets would cost... let's say... 1000 gold.
The more you purchase, the more chances you have to win.
Tickets won't be items, they would just be data in a server, so checking the tickets anyone has would not be necessary.
Then, each monday, you talk to the Xunlai Lottery/Raffle Agent, and you get your price (if any)
Lauryn
They could add something like this for the events and things 
have a raffle stand set-up in Kamadan, Lions Arch and Kaineng so that people without X game can still play some festival games (like how a lot of people cant access the boardwalk when it opens)
have a raffle stand set-up in Kamadan, Lions Arch and Kaineng so that people without X game can still play some festival games (like how a lot of people cant access the boardwalk when it opens)
gameshoes3003
Wow, I would really like to win this lottery...
Div
Something like 100g per ticket. Every 3 hours, anet randomly picks three winners. First place gets 40% of all gold, second gets 25%, third gets 15%. The leftover 20% are used as a gold sink.
tenshi_strife
/signed this is a great gold sink and it would make someones day.... or month LOL
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Besides the fact that lotteries are, you know, illegal in several states...
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/signed. Good idea. This is a lot of return for a little investment, and it would make someone's day.
Hyper.nl
Nothing of priority for me, but it's nice to have.
Entreri
They'd have to work out some way that you could get the cash if your chest and characters had too much gold on them to collect your winnings. Max gold also kind of limits the max prizes of a lottery too unless you do it with items. Perhaps they could put an npc in temple of balthazar and you give him your ticket to get the gold... gives you a chance to spend your current gold and make room to collect your winnings 
That being said, /signed. More gold sinks that are optional and/or fun = good.
That being said, /signed. More gold sinks that are optional and/or fun = good.
tenshi_strife
or even better yet a storage tab thing, when you win you take your ticket to the xunlai agent and she stores all the gold so you can withdraw at your leisure, cause you have to realize the winnings could be close or over a mil if people bought enough tickets and if the % was high enough..... cause there are a ton of players.
genofreek
That's why I thought it might be better as an item raffle than a lottery with gold. :P If the pot gets close to a million, a lot of players will be out QUITE a bit of cash!
Still, if they turned the money into some sort of redeemable certificate (double-click to receive your winnings) that can't be used until you have the available space, it could work. People could just buy up some ectos or something to make room, if nothing else.
Still, if they turned the money into some sort of redeemable certificate (double-click to receive your winnings) that can't be used until you have the available space, it could work. People could just buy up some ectos or something to make room, if nothing else.
karunpav
/signed for masamune's idea.
Zinger314
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
And that has to do with what? I assume that meeting people in secluded areas, 8v8, trying to kill one another is illegal too. This is GW, not real life. Completely irrelevant, unnecessary. Why do you even care? Go play WoW, where there aren't any lotteries.
/signed. Good idea. This is a lot of return for a little investment, and it would make someone's day. |
Online gambling is flat-out against the law of the United States in certain states.
For reference, the states are:
Arizona
Arkansas
Connecuit
Delaware
Florida
Iowa
Lousiana
Maryland
Nevada
Tennesse
Texas
Vermont
Washington
The last state is the killer. There would be too much legal trouble and loopholing to make a lottery worthwhile.
genofreek
...You completely missed the point, Zinger. Nobody's talking about opening a sketchy poker game in which real money is at stake. This is for using GW gold for a chance to win in-game prizes. There would be no gambling with USD or any other forms of actual IRL currency. Actual cash would not be changing hands. Last I checked, there's no legislation for or against the use of Guild Wars platinum.
As I said before, if gambling done in an MMO with game currency were illegal, KoL's casino would be long-by now.
As I said before, if gambling done in an MMO with game currency were illegal, KoL's casino would be long-by now.
Entreri
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Uh. No.
Online gambling is flat-out against the law of the United States in certain states. |
It's against the law for REAL WORLD MONEY. You can gamble all you want for play money. They cracked down on online poker for real cash but you can still play the play money ones all you want.
Nobody here is suggesting Anet is gonna send you a check.
X Suzumiya Haruhi X
/signed with Masamune's idea
It prevents ppl from buying 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000 tickets with the every 3 hour limit thing, and it gives poor or new players a chance to get money. 一,...,O
It prevents ppl from buying 500000000000000000000000000000000000000000 tickets with the every 3 hour limit thing, and it gives poor or new players a chance to get money. 一,...,O
Icy DS
I say everyone "buys" a "unique", "tanned hide" that is identified by a number and at the end of the day the trader "recalls" one tanned hide because of "faulty manufacturing" and the trader pays a "reimbursement" to the player who turns in the "unique tanned hide".
...no one has to know...
...no one has to know...
MithranArkanere
Ahem... Actually, the broadwalk circles are gambling games.
So... why are not the FBI arresting the Anet staff?
To prvent people buying too much tickets, the solution is easy, not making them items, but server varaibales, an limitd the numbre of tickest per character owned...
Hehe... that way people would have one more reason to get more slots... hehehehe...
So... why are not the FBI arresting the Anet staff?
To prvent people buying too much tickets, the solution is easy, not making them items, but server varaibales, an limitd the numbre of tickest per character owned...
Hehe... that way people would have one more reason to get more slots... hehehehe...
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
I'm against giving new players a chance to instantly win 100s of k. I mean, that may sound bad, but really, a level 5 guy in Kamadon doesn't deserve to win a lottery worth thousands. People should have to "earn" their gold somehow.
I'm against giving new players a chance to instantly win 100s of k. I mean, that may sound bad, but really, a level 5 guy in Kamadon doesn't deserve to win a lottery worth thousands. People should have to "earn" their gold somehow.
tenshi_strife
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Uh. No.
Online gambling is flat-out against the law of the United States in certain states. For reference, the states are: Arizona Arkansas Connecuit Delaware Florida Iowa Lousiana Maryland Nevada Tennesse Texas Vermont Washington The last state is the killer. There would be too much legal trouble and loopholing to make a lottery worthwhile. |
tenshi_strife
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
/notsigned
I'm against giving new players a chance to instantly win 100s of k. I mean, that may sound bad, but really, a level 5 guy in Kamadon doesn't deserve to win a lottery worth thousands. People should have to "earn" their gold somehow. |
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
hum so lotteries are illegal in arizona hum....... well idk cause i live in arizona and we have 8 to 10 lotteries...... the arizona lottery is a big one..... the pick is another hum..... lol
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You didn't bold the integral part of Zinger's comment. Online Gambling is illegal in Arizona. He didn't say anything about lotteries (which are usually state run to support the school system).
tenshi_strife
yes... well i ASSUMED that since this topic was about LOTTERIES that what he was saying was about the topic but it seems im wrong...... thank you for correcting me but my comment still stands that this is in no way illegal
Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Reading comprehension for the win.
You didn't bold the integral part of Zinger's comment. Online Gambling is illegal in Arizona. He didn't say anything about lotteries (which are usually state run to support the school system). |
And Hawk, while I see your reasons, you could make it so that the return isn't that large. So while you buy a ticket for 500g, the return is only 10k. I mean, how often are you going to hit the jackpot?
And while they should have the earn the gold, unless they're sitting around LA and KC begging for 500g, this would be a fast goldsink if it were abused.
Tide to Go
i did this as a player event......alot of pll called me a scam...got tired of it and stoped
Malice Black
10g?!
1k per ticket, max tickets 100.
Proper gold sink now.
1k per ticket, max tickets 100.
Proper gold sink now.
dsielschott
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
Uh. No.
Online gambling is flat-out against the law of the United States in certain states. For reference, the states are: Arizona Arkansas Connecuit Delaware Florida Iowa Lousiana Maryland Nevada Tennesse Texas Vermont Washington The last state is the killer. There would be too much legal trouble and loopholing to make a lottery worthwhile. |
hey guess what killing people is illegal too....but you still do it in thousands of video GAMES. That isnt illegal in the least. Just like a lottery wouldnt be illegal.
But you do relize that GW would have to keep a VERY LARGE % of the ticket sales because if there are 3.5 million people buying a ticket every week (limit 1) then thats gonna be 35 million (at only 10g per) that means if you only get 3% of the winnings you would be at a little over 1 million gold.
I like the idea with a few tweeks.
TheRaven
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hey guess what killing people is illegal too....but you still do it in thousands of video GAMES. That isnt illegal in the least. Just like a lottery wouldnt be illegal.
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Sorry, Zinger. You really missed the ball on this one. This isn't gambling because no real life money is involved. We're only betting pixels. Same exact concept with the ring games. Or are you saying that people in those states can be put in jail for playing the ring games?
I like this idea, but it would definitely have to be downscaled a bit. I don't want to see multi-million dollar...er gold...awards being given out. How about local lotteries instead? Or even local contests, pay a fee to enter some skill based contest, max 20 contestants. winner collects the fees (but I suppose that's branching off into a different idea entirely).
Have hourly town-based gold lotteries. Pay 100g for a ticket in a major town (Ascalon, LA, Droks, Monastery, Kaineng, Cavalon, House Zu Heltzer, Kamaden, Sunspear Sanctuary and Kodash Bazaar only) Each town runs their own separate lottery. Each hour a prize winner is drawn and they must return to the lottery coordinator in that town to collect their prize. Each hour a chat message is delivered to everyone that bought a ticket announcing the winner.
Also have a HUGE Weekly drawing across the entire game. Tickets here also cost 100g each and the prize is a particular item. Each week it's something different. A Rare mini-pet, a perfect crystalline sword, a stack of booze, etc, etc. Winner is drawn every Saturday evening at 6pm PST and announced in chat the same way the Hall of Heroes and New builds are announced.
The winner has 1 day for local lotteries or 1 week for the weekly lottery to pick up his prize from any lottery coordinator. He is also notified each time he logs in that he won until he picks up the prize. If not picked up within the timeframe the prize is forfeit. Just like real-life lotteries.
There is 1 huge downside I see to this. As soon as the winner's name is announced across the player base, that person is gonna receive a TON!!! of pm's, possibly causing a huge lag or disconnect.
"Weekly lottery drawing announcement: Malice Black has just won a Ghostly Hero Mini-Pet in the Tyrian National Weekly Lottery"
800,000 players immediately try to PM Malice with "congrats", "WTG" "Can i buy it??" "plz give me free pet", "lucky sob", "u cheated!!!" "hacker!!!" "I'm reporting you" "hey, wanna join my guild", "trade u 7 unids for pet" ........
Hmm, think he can hit the "do not disturb" button fast enough?
The Herbalizer
Anet dont like rich people. A lottery making someone rich or insanely rich (depending on % winner received) is not something I could see Anet wanting to do.
Imagine a new millionaire or multi multi millionaire every week. I could see the prices of high end weapons rising which I am sure it is not something Anet would want.
Nice idea but I doubt it will be implemented.
Imagine a new millionaire or multi multi millionaire every week. I could see the prices of high end weapons rising which I am sure it is not something Anet would want.
Nice idea but I doubt it will be implemented.
MithranArkanere
Prices don't need to be gold.
There could be other prices. For example, allow one unlock of one event mask you didn't got.
You if you where in Dragon Festivel but not saved the Dragon Mask, you could unlick it again.
There could be other prices. For example, allow one unlock of one event mask you didn't got.
You if you where in Dragon Festivel but not saved the Dragon Mask, you could unlick it again.
Seppi
Just to point out to all the people who are saying something along the lines of:
"zOMG gambling, that's illegal in my state!"...
Nine rings and rings of fortune are gambling games where you stake your tickets on gaining or losing more tickets based on random chance.
You had better not inform your local precinct or you're going to go to jail. (/end sarcasm+cynicism)
Regardless, I like the idea.
/signed
"zOMG gambling, that's illegal in my state!"...
Nine rings and rings of fortune are gambling games where you stake your tickets on gaining or losing more tickets based on random chance.
You had better not inform your local precinct or you're going to go to jail. (/end sarcasm+cynicism)
Regardless, I like the idea.
/signed