Why are all the Guild Wars Campaings are Girls??

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

Wouldn't mind being able to get her armour :P

But on a serious note, it sells

Wouldn't mind an asura though, as they're cool

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

As it's been said, not all the boxes are female...

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images...1132_front.jpg

http://eu.guildwars.com/images/art/n...monk-large.jpg

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I'm actually one of the few who liked the original art, although I must admit, the latest version is pretty nice..
I like the first two renditions. Style-wise the first was the best. Its simply the most interesting to look at and the most painterly. Has a fantasy feel about it. The second one is nice too and I think Jora looks best there. The third is bland to me. Everyday ho hum polished computer aided art, imho. Not that its bad, its just not exciting or interesting.

Jora ugly? Nah. Just charismatic and not rife with model qualities. Pretty cool character. Certainly looks Norse.

Smilin' Assassin

Smilin' Assassin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Cantha

Pixies O Wickid Nawtyness [pixy]

A/Me

o .. I thought there was not gonna be a box .. well buying online anyway.
Besides, GW:EN is not aiming at any new audience, it's for the current community ~

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Prime target market/demographic = adolescent male.

It could also attract protential female buyers too because having a female character representing the entire game shows femininity, power and dominance in one image.

Having a wammo-esque muscle-man would be cliché.

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Who cares lol. All it is on the box is a rendering...Pixels ftl!

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

The first two iterations look too much like Daryl Hannah for my taste.

bloodvayne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scutilla
Prophecies had three boxes, each with two characters (one on each side). There was Eve, Cynn, and the unnamed mesmer and ranger for the girls, and Mhenlo and the unnamed warrior for the guys.

Both Factions poster children were female (Nika and the unnamed Luxon ritualist).

Nightfall had a male paragon and female dervish, both unnamed.

Eye of the North has yet another lady, Jora.

So, three guys to eight girls... I think I know what NCSoft's target audience is...
The unnamed mesmer was Lady Althea, and the ranger is Reyna (with slightly different armor, like Eve)

And the Factions cover was Vizu, not Nika

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothen Kithkanan
And here ladies and gents is the 3 stages of beer goggles at work
Heh beer goggles..

1 pint - wtf hit her? a bus?
5 pints - she ain't that bad after all..
10 pints - taxi!!

And then *bang* *grunt* *snore*

The morning after the night before..

WTF is that?! taxi!!

The End.


Anyways..back on topic

As stated previously, sex sells, and it sells very well to gamer geeks, hence all the scantily clad females in PC mags etc

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Who cares lol. All it is on the box is a rendering...Pixels ftl!

Metasynaptic

Metasynaptic

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
The first two iterations look too much like Daryl Hannah for my taste.
It does really look like someone said to the artist... 'give Jora a 'clan of the cave bear' look, please.'

SlyClone

SlyClone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Ontario, Canada

Canthan Wanderers

E/A

Jora is perfect. The Anet artists have a great eye. Keep up the good work. I think GW2 will blow our freekin minds! Keep hotties like that coming. I'm all up for it!

Not one game in the world rivals GW on how many hot chick characters can be created from each and every profession. And kudos to the armor designers as well for their excellent work on making sure that the female characters are worth playing for 2000 hours, with little chance of getting boring to look at.

I'm so looking forward to having Jora in my party! Move over Koss. This new hottie's got the job.

Oh and for Factions expansion(2008), I'd like to see a Female Ele hero and something skimpy for Acolyte Jin to wear. My wishlist is endless on this subject.

[[email protected] Knez: Pure speculation on my part. Wishful thinking is good for the soul. If you look at all 3 continent maps, there's room for expansions. If you think that GW1 ends at GW:EN, I beg to differ. It's gonna be IMPOSSIBLE to retain player base beyond mid-2008 with only 1 expansion unless GW2 is ready to ship in 4th quarter of that year, which I highly doubt, considering how much they got on the table for that game. So I speculate that Cantha and Elona will no doubt each have a new story of their own. Ask me the same question in March, 2008. ]

MORE FACES pls. Nightfall was a wee bit dissapointing in the Female Face department for almost all professions. I could send some suggestions. I hate that only 10% of faces are worth going out in towns with.

Arren Knez

Arren Knez

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

south of somewhere

Dominion of Passi [PaSI]

with jora its a good thing to see anet go all the way with her and put her on the box and also in the game where as in proph the ranger chick, the war guy and the mesmer chick dont make any other appearances, in factions vizu shows up in game but the rit doesnt other than the CS and the nf box lol they never make it in game.

on a side note, SlyClone where did you hear about a factions expansion for 08? So far anet has not stated anything about another expansion after gw:en other than the bonus missions which you need to qualify for.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

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the first rendition is the best.

when you look at the concept art of Jora, you immediately think yes thats a Norm lady.

then they refined it, so that it will appeal to the general market. Now Jora is just another beautiful lady character in GW and the feeling of the Norm-ness is gone.

Arcane_Penguin

Arcane_Penguin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Land Downunder

The Shadowheart Vanguard

R/Mo

its a common advertsing stragety thats used every where from movies, games, clothes, etc. its called sex appeal.

klrk

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Space Rangers

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girls as cover is much attractive than men
i like girls as cover

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcane_Penguin
its a common advertsing stragety thats used every where from movies, games, clothes, etc. its called sex appeal.
Exactly. Sex sells, always has, always will. Not to mention the facts that there is a greater percentage of males than females that play these types of games, and the age demographic is on the younger, pubertal range.

That's the more professional way of saying the game is filled with sex-crazed teens, what better way to market to that type than putting hot chicks on the cover? Besides, even if you hate the game, at least you can see your half-naked ele shake her "elements". The game offers something for everyone! Hell, the males in the game are pretty hot, too. How many women swoon over Mhenlo, honestly? He was on a cover, too, BTW.

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodvayne
And the Factions cover was Vizu, not Nika
The Factions cover is definitely Nika, not Vizu.

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Sex sells, always has, always will.
Bingo. Want to sell something? Put an attractive girl in the ad, it's that simple.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
the first rendition is the best.

when you look at the concept art of Jora, you immediately think yes thats a Norm lady.

then they refined it, so that it will appeal to the general market. Now Jora is just another beautiful lady character in GW and the feeling of the Norm-ness is gone.
Agree. I much prefer the original concept art, she's lost her muscular warrior look a little more each time and the final ingame version looks about the same build as a current playable warrior female. Hopefully she'll still be a lot taller than the other heroes. Although being taller than an Asura wouldn't exactly take much !

acidic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

something for people to *fap* about...

speaking of which


*fap *fap *fap

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

That Norm lady, Jora. She need to be more muscular and hairly. Norm folks don't have time for beauty and make-up! All they do is ice a polar bear with their bare hand all day and drinking ale.

You know what? Anet should be radical and put a female dwarf on the cover box, hairly, bearded small women ftw!

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Sex sells. There are more men into video games, or there were.

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

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Anyone else notice the size of the scabbard Jora was carrying in the concept art? What's inside will make a Fellblade look like a toothpick.

I adore the first artwork. She has personality, and look like she has the build to swing that mother of a sword.

Nice nordic features that might be a bit harsh, but she's no kindergarten teacher, she probably eats bears for breakfast.

Minus points to A-net for normalising her so much. My main critique of female toons in GW is that you can't tell their professions from afar.

It is blatantly obvious in the males, especially the warriors and the chippend...paragon.

Of course, there's a risk of ending up like WoW female dwarves. Lets not go there! Thanks A-net.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Its because...

...sex sells!!!

And most people who play computer games are young, teenage or 20something guys who get turned on by the sight of a scantly clad girl.

Also notice how all the female character are perfectly shaped, with all the right curves!

Hm...realistic!

SlyClone

SlyClone

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Ontario, Canada

Canthan Wanderers

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Y'all would wanna go check out the GW:EN Fan Site Kit in the latest GW website update... it has a HUGE photoshop layered RGB version of Jora... That's some of the finest detailed pixel work I've ever seen in my life. Makes me wish I had a 100 inch plasma monitor.

Stunning work! The GW Art Director is now my best friend.

phoenixar

phoenixar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

RA Lobby

[Rose]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Konrow
They attract more customers. to men they are hot and mostly men buy games and to the women they are females so they find it cool that females get noticed. or they find it hot too. either way keep the hot girls, why complain?
I don't know about others but a scantily clad girl on front of a game doesn't make any difference as to whether I buy the game or not.. seen as I have more than 1 braincell and are over 13 years old.

A cool looking man would have more influence (no i'm not gay) because you being a man can aspire to be that character (RP ftw).. where as me personally I can't get inspiration from a pretty girl on the front cover.

captain_carter

captain_carter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

England

The X Viles [TXV]

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personally I would say the main characters were:

Prophecies - the Lich/Vizier
Factions - Shiro
Nightfall - Varesh (or possibly Abaddon)

so IMO only one of the main characters is female.

bloodvayne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiotoko
The Factions cover is definitely Nika, not Vizu.
It's Vizu, the box art shares the exact same cinematic look that Vizu had in the Factions Cinematic

Nuclfus

Nuclfus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Screw guilds.

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And the Factions manual Characters section shows the same purple haired assassin labeled "Nika". That argument could go all day.

As for chicks on box art, I don't think it increases sales in the sense that male gamers look at the box and suddenly feel an urge to buy. I think what it does do is catch their eye from on the store shelf, which will increase the chances of them picking it up from among the other games to take a closer look. Then maybe they'll read the back and find it interesting enough to slap down $50 for it. That's my theory. Personally I'm a fan of ladies on box art, so I hope it succeeds at whatever it's suppose to accomplish.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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www.penny-arcade.com sometimes has a GWEN ad on their site where Jora's, uh, attributes seem to have increased more.

The ad rotates out with other products, so I have no idea how to give a link. If you're a regular to penny arcade, I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about!

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodvayne
It's Vizu, the box art shares the exact same cinematic look that Vizu had in the Factions Cinematic
Box Cover
Vizu

Unless Vizu returned from the dead and had a makeover, that's definitely Nika.

bloodvayne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

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Vizu (miniature)


Vizu right in front of the temple, before trapping Shiro and dying


Same image as the above, it's Vizu, just without the backdrop

I know Vizu and Nika look exactly alike, but the fact that they used the Vizu image means that it is Vizu on the cover of Factions, not Nika

Nuclfus

Nuclfus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Screw guilds.

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How do you know they didn't make the box art with Nika first, and then reuse her pic in the temple pic as Vizu since they look alike?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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I bet you Devona on the box would of sold a few more units than Eve anyway I sometime refer to the game as Guild War Girls.

I wonder what the stats are for female to male ratio is in the game.It would surprise me if there were more females than males.

Hiotoko

Hiotoko

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

This is clearly the same girl which appears on the cover, is it not? Vizu does not have the same hair as Nika, and the cover clearly does not sport her image. I don't see what you're trying to get at, it's clearly established that the girl is Nika...only the mini resembles Nika yet is labeled Vizu, which I believe isn't very accurate considering Vizu doesn't appear alive in the game, nor does she have the same hair.

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

NF has Sologon, or at least some male Paragon on it.
Factions had Visu.
But Proph had Eve and some male warrior.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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Vizu hair is much shorter than that of Nika and it is parted in the middle not side like Nika.I would say it is Nika on the box not Vizu and Vizu only played a small part in the game.

Mouser

Mouser

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Defenders of Gods

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Vizu hair is much shorter than that of Nika and it is parted in the middle not side like Nika.I would say it is Nika on the box not Vizu and Vizu only played a small part in the game.
QFT. Not a chance in the world that it's Vizu on the cover of Factions. That's purple-haired Nikka, no mistaking it and the matching artwork within the manual.

bloodvayne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

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lol, maybe they modeled the mini Vizu after Nika, idk, because they look exactly alike?

And it is definitely Vizu that helps kill Shiro the first time around is it not?
If you watch the Factions Cinematic you can also see that they look exactly alike.

The image I posted earlier has Vizu standing in front of the Temple (why would it be Nika? Nika wasn't there when this happened.)

Seeing as how that image (of Vizu) was used on the cover of the box, it has to be Vizu, there's no doubt about it

The only one of you with a decent arguement is Nuclfus (Whom I can't think of a reply back to XD)