Its nice that all 5 caster proffesions can use hourglass staff, but the glacial blade and darksteel longbow can only be used with swordmanship/marksmanship attriburtes, that leaves these three proffesions with no bonus weapon, unless they are used as a secondary proffesion, which sucks to be honest. I think its unfair to those of us who have a favorite character among these three proffesions.
Will there be any daggers, scythes and spears with the GW:EN pre-order?
GW:EN pre-order items for Assasins, Dervishes and Paragons ?
enxa
Mordakai
???
Wait, what about Axe and Hammer warriors? They get screwed too!
Oh, wait, these are BONUS items, not intended for all Professions.
If memory serves, the basic classes have never gotten any bonus weapons from a pre-release.
Factions has Assassin Daggers and a Ritualist Staff.
Nightfall has Dervish Scythe and Paragon Spear.
Finally, Warriors and Rangers get a pre-release Bonus Item.
(not counting GOTY, of course)
Wait, what about Axe and Hammer warriors? They get screwed too!
Oh, wait, these are BONUS items, not intended for all Professions.
If memory serves, the basic classes have never gotten any bonus weapons from a pre-release.
Factions has Assassin Daggers and a Ritualist Staff.
Nightfall has Dervish Scythe and Paragon Spear.
Finally, Warriors and Rangers get a pre-release Bonus Item.
(not counting GOTY, of course)
Chronos the Defiler
Doubtful. You do not require Factions or Nightfall to play GWEN so why add weapons for a class you may not even have access to? whereas all 3 Campaigns have access to Warriors, Rangers and Casters
Miral
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Doubtful. You do not require Factions or Nightfall to play GWEN so why add weapons for a class you may not even have access to? whereas all 3 Campaigns have access to Warriors, Rangers and Casters
for the same reason you add weapons for a class you may not even play? because a large population do.
as for not having warrior and ranger weapons in previous preorders.... prophecies had preorder packs with a choice. I personally recieved the ithas bow.
as for not having warrior and ranger weapons in previous preorders.... prophecies had preorder packs with a choice. I personally recieved the ithas bow.
Nuclfus
a) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is an imaginary character
b) you are some real person who owns at least one Guild Wars Campaign and can choose what profession to play
c) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is not you
The GW:EN preorder is not unfair to you in any way, because you can choose what profession you play and the professions tied to these weapons are accessible by you regardless of what campaign(s) you own. You don't play a warrior? That's your choice. Now it is unfair to the Dervishes, Assassins, and Paragons because they don't get a weapon reflecting their primary profession. But believe it or not, they don't care. They don't have feelings. They aren't even real. You're complaining because the preorder is unfair to an imaginary character.
b) you are some real person who owns at least one Guild Wars Campaign and can choose what profession to play
c) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is not you
The GW:EN preorder is not unfair to you in any way, because you can choose what profession you play and the professions tied to these weapons are accessible by you regardless of what campaign(s) you own. You don't play a warrior? That's your choice. Now it is unfair to the Dervishes, Assassins, and Paragons because they don't get a weapon reflecting their primary profession. But believe it or not, they don't care. They don't have feelings. They aren't even real. You're complaining because the preorder is unfair to an imaginary character.
street peddler
way to take it too literally nuclfus
aaje vhanli
While I also think it would be really great to get new GW:EN-skinned unique weapons for every single class....
Weapons for Paragons and Dervishes were included in the Nightfall pre-order bonus and weapons for Assassins were included in the Factions pre-order bonus. A hammer pre-order weapon was included in one of the possible Prophecies pre-orders.
There was no previous sword pre-order weapon or weapon for casters (save the Facitons pre-order weapon Spiritbinder)... so technically the only one truly left out is Axes (and perhaps a wand for casters so that they can use an off-hand). And if you count the Game of the Year bonus weapons, the only doubles are hammers and shields and the only triple is bows.
Weapons for Paragons and Dervishes were included in the Nightfall pre-order bonus and weapons for Assassins were included in the Factions pre-order bonus. A hammer pre-order weapon was included in one of the possible Prophecies pre-orders.
There was no previous sword pre-order weapon or weapon for casters (save the Facitons pre-order weapon Spiritbinder)... so technically the only one truly left out is Axes (and perhaps a wand for casters so that they can use an off-hand). And if you count the Game of the Year bonus weapons, the only doubles are hammers and shields and the only triple is bows.
Onarik Amrak
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b) you are some real person who owns at least one Guild Wars Campaign and can choose what profession to play
c) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is not you
The GW:EN preorder is not unfair to you in any way, because you can choose what profession you play and the professions tied to these weapons are accessible by you regardless of what campaign(s) you own. You don't play a warrior? That's your choice. Now it is unfair to the Dervishes, Assassins, and Paragons because they don't get a weapon reflecting their primary profession. But believe it or not, they don't care. They don't have feelings. They aren't even real. You're complaining because the preorder is unfair to an imaginary character. And your point is?
Miral
the problem of course being that unlike the GotY stuff, factions and nightfall packs are not available anymore :\ so those taking a break or busy during those releases are out of luck
enxa
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factions and nightfall packs are not available anymore :\
Exactly. And besides that, not everyone played the game since the release of prophecies and was able to pre-order F and N...
EN applies to all campaigns. And that includes all proffesions, not just the 'core' six ones. That is why i am surprised that only core proffesions got bonus weapons. Plus the ritualist. Why include a rt weapon but exclude out assasins. dervishes and paragons? ANTICANCER
the hourglass staff covers rits. therefore dervs, sins, and paras should get something.
-Loki-
Hourglass staff only covers Ritualists because they decided to make it cover all caster primaries. Nice bonus, but it looks like the general idea was 'return to Tyria, new stuff for the core professions'.
Elisa
It would be pretty darn neat if the Glacial Blade also allowed for Scythe Mastery so Dervishes get a unique sword to wield.
Earth
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b) you are some real person who owns at least one Guild Wars Campaign and can choose what profession to play c) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is not you The GW:EN preorder is not unfair to you in any way, because you can choose what profession you play and the professions tied to these weapons are accessible by you regardless of what campaign(s) you own. You don't play a warrior? That's your choice. Now it is unfair to the Dervishes, Assassins, and Paragons because they don't get a weapon reflecting their primary profession. But believe it or not, they don't care. They don't have feelings. They aren't even real. You're complaining because the preorder is unfair to an imaginary character. Wow, stop taking things too literally.
Peter Panic
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Originally Posted by Nuclfus
b) you are some real person who owns at least one Guild Wars Campaign and can choose what profession to play c) your Dervish/Assassin/Paragon is not you The GW:EN preorder is not unfair to you in any way, because you can choose what profession you play and the professions tied to these weapons are accessible by you regardless of what campaign(s) you own. You don't play a warrior? That's your choice. Now it is unfair to the Dervishes, Assassins, and Paragons because they don't get a weapon reflecting their primary profession. But believe it or not, they don't care. They don't have feelings. They aren't even real. You're complaining because the preorder is unfair to an imaginary character. you are an idiot. hes not complaining that the eotn weapons "hurt his dervishes feelings", hes complaining that he plays a derv, and he wants a weapon for it. i completely agree. my 2 favortie classes are assasins and dervs, and by not getting a weapon for them, im kinda mad too. but these weapons werent an obligation. what i mean by this is anet didnt HAVE to give us them, and im glad that my koss and dunk finally have good weps, so w.e 
aaje vhanli
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the problem of course being that unlike the GotY stuff, factions and nightfall packs are not available anymore :\ so those taking a break or busy during those releases are out of luck
Check eBay lately?
GloryFox
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posted by aaje vhanli | Quote: Originally Posted by Miral the problem of course being that unlike the GotY stuff, factions and nightfall packs are not available anymore :\ so those taking a break or busy during those releases are out of luck Check eBay lately? Fact is even if you have those pre order boxes you still can't get the items since they are time restricted. For example after DEC 15 of last year bonus items (Icy Soulbreaker and Sunspear) were no longer available if you did not purchase Nightfall and enter the code before that date. I don't have the date for the Factions pre release but the same theory applies. Paragons, Dervishes, and Assassins are legitimate character classes there was no reason to deny them the bonus items for a pre release that includes all classes as core.
Lonesamurai
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Fact is even if you have those pre order boxes you still can't get the items since they are time restricted. For example after DEC 15 of last year bonus items (Icy Soulbreaker and Sunspear) were no longer available if you did not purchase Nightfall and enter the code before that date. I don't have the date for the Factions pre release but the same theory applies.
Where did you read this? link and quote please
GloryFox
The best example I can give is I know someone who got it for Christmas and was unable to get his items because he entered the game key after DEC 15th. I'll try and find some other link for that evidence for you. Either way, I am correct on my statement the pre order keys for the Icy Soulbreaker and Firey sunspear no longer work, if you did not add your Nightfall game key before DEC 15th.
Lonesamurai
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I would love to give you the link to that information however ANET no longer has the link info as you can see here.
http://www.guildwars.com/support/whe...prerelease.php The best example I can give is I know someone who got it for Christmas and was unable to get his items because he entered the game key after DEC 15th. I'll try and find some other link for that evidence for you. Either way, I am correct on my statement the pre order keys for the Icy Soulbreaker and Firey sunspear no longer work, if you did not add your Nightfall game key before DEC 15th. i shall check this with NCSoft and confirm or deny it, but until that happens, unless i see a link, its false adn you should consider it that way aswell
Miral
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i shall check this with NCSoft and confirm or deny it, but until that happens, unless i see a link, its false adn you should consider it that way aswell
i think its better to consider it true until proved false, so no one shells out 15 bucks for one on ebay and find out it doesn't work...
ayame ftw
what is the problem... its not like u actually are going to use the items on your actual character anyway they are far from perfect, ofc u can mod them a bit but u cant change the inscriptions on them to make them a little more useful
who wants 45hp while enchanted on a staff... who wants -5 energy on a bow... who wants +15% dmg on a sword while enchanted... Exactly not a lot of people... the weapons will be manly used to provide weapons for the hero's So stop making a fuss about some extra weapons u will not use anyway.
Nuclfus
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Fact is even if you have those pre order boxes you still can't get the items since they are time restricted. For example after DEC 15 of last year bonus items (Icy Soulbreaker and Sunspear) were no longer available if you did not purchase Nightfall and enter the code before that date. I don't have the date for the Factions pre release but the same theory applies.
Paragons, Dervishes, and Assassins are legitimate character classes there was no reason to deny them the bonus items for a pre release that includes all classes as core. I bought a NF preorder long after it came out for $3 (good deal for a character slot so I figured why not), and I'm pretty sure that was sometime in March. Both the weps there work fine for me.
enxa
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what is the problem... its not like u actually are going to use the items on your actual character anyway they are far from perfect, ofc u can mod them a bit but u cant change the inscriptions on them to make them a little more useful
who wants 45hp while enchanted on a staff... who wants -5 energy on a bow... who wants +15% dmg on a sword while enchanted... Exactly not a lot of people... the weapons will be manly used to provide weapons for the hero's So stop making a fuss about some extra weapons u will not use anyway. Speak for yourself. I went through the complete factions campaign and half of nightfall with my assasin using Shreader's Talons, a worthless green with +15% vs hexed and +33% bleeding. Its mods suck but the weapon is just as deadly when in the right hands. :P
Thunder79
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the problem of course being that unlike the GotY stuff, factions and nightfall packs are not available anymore :\ so those taking a break or busy during those releases are out of luck
check Ebay....lots of them for sale there...even prophecies packs are available...though it seems to be limited to the preorder pack with the Censor's Icon. I got a factions preorder pack for my second account to complete my set of preorders (minus Prophecies preorders)...and a censor's icon prophecies preorder pack for each of my accounts (meh...probably not worth the $5 I paid for it...but oh well)....all three codes worked fine. I can't speak to the Nightfall preorder pack (I bought mine when they were released...before release of Nightfall) now but the prophecies and factions packs work fine.
yes unless you choose to buy it off ebay...you are out of luck...don't miss out on preorders and you won't have that problem in the future. It is not Anet's responsibility to outfit all of your characters and heroes with the weapons from the gw:en preorder.
Marina
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Speak for yourself.
I went through the complete factions campaign and half of nightfall with my assasin using Shreader's Talons, a worthless green with +15% vs hexed and +33% bleeding. Its mods suck but the weapon is just as deadly when in the right hands. :P OI. Think how much deadlier you would have been with a stronger instead of prettier weapon :P So I do agree with ayame on this one. I run around with my Darksteel bow, yes, but I switch up when I want to create some actual damage!
Raziel665
I dont get it...
Fiery Sunspear of Shelter? Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting? Poison Dragon Fangs of Dagger Mastery? Insightful Spiritbinder? If you wanted pre-order bonus items for those professions you could have gotten them a long time ago.
enxa
maybe some of us havent yet played the game 'a long time ago'...
Lonesamurai
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I dont get it...
Fiery Sunspear of Shelter? Icy Soulbreaker of Enchanting? Poison Dragon Fangs of Dagger Mastery? Insightful Spiritbinder? If you wanted pre-order bonus items for those professions you could have gotten them a long time ago. Admittadley Razziel, there are a lot of new players now coming in that don't have access to the Factions and nightfall preorders
isamu kurosawa
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maybe some of us havent yet played the game 'a long time ago'...
Then you missed your chance. Doesn't change the fact that those professions have already had pre release bonus weapons.
Raziel665
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Admittadley Razziel, there are a lot of new players now coming in that don't have access to the Factions and nightfall preorders
True, but you don't hear me complaining about not getting the very original pre-order items or the ones from the GW2006 edition.
Lonesamurai
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True, but you don't hear me complaining about not getting the very original pre-order items or the ones from the GW2006 edition.
Nope, even though I was in beta's I missed the preorders for prophecies, but the gotY edition weapons are available in the ingame store
Raziel665
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Nope, even though I was in beta's I missed the preorders for prophecies, but the gotY edition weapons are available in the ingame store
I want those too.... But alas, you need a creditcard for that, and I'm not buying the GotY edition in stores for 20 Euro... |
