2 questions about skills and elite skills

zoobooboozoo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

27 Jul 2007 at 21:52 - 1
Hi there...
1) I was wondering why do people say not to take a skill like fire storm?
( even though I'm no R/E ) is it because that when a ragnger use fire storm it is much less powerful because he's a ranger ?(regardless of attribute points...) or is it because something else?
2) i'm a 9lvl ranger at post-searing ascalon, when will I be able to find bosses that I can get elite skills from?

thx in advance, c-ya

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

27 Jul 2007 at 22:02 - 2
1) Firestorm sucks. It sucks even on Elementalists. The damage is low, the AoE is tiny and scatter sucks. Indeed, if you're out to cause scatter... there's still better skills. Firestorm is a horrible, horrible skill.

2) In Prophecies, the first elites aren't untill the Crystal Desert. Still a while to go.

martialis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

RA, reporting you

27 Jul 2007 at 22:04 - 3
1) Yeah, that's exactly why...
2) In the desert, which is about half-way through the game

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

28 Jul 2007 at 00:00 - 4
1) also, that applies to most non-ranger caster skills. The problem is of synergy, ele fire magic (barr Conjure Flame) doesnt fit with rangers, its not affected by the reduced energy cost of expertise and rangers dont have large pool of energy from which to cast the often energy intensive ele skills.
Plus, often a ranger is needed to perform a specific task such as condition application and interuption, its often best to not try to force a ranger to be an elementalist, or the other way around, it just makes the game more difficult.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Jul 2007 at 13:44 - 5
i admit i used to throw ele skills on my ranger's bar when i was kinda new(dont laugh but i had MS,meteor lava font in there:S) but i found it fun still cuz i still ripped enemies

but still imo:fire storm is one of the worst ele skills EVER

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

28 Jul 2007 at 13:46 - 6
sowwie doublepost

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

28 Jul 2007 at 14:16 - 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
2) In Prophecies, the first elites aren't untill the Crystal Desert. Still a while to go. you can get elites before the desert....(northern shiverpeaks) area south of beacons perch i believe it to be, cant remember name but their are several cappable elites there!

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

28 Jul 2007 at 14:44 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by payne
you can get elites before the desert....(northern shiverpeaks) area south of beacons perch i believe it to be, cant remember name but their are several cappable elites there! Yeah you can get stuff like defy pain south of beacons. Only problem is those monsters are level 24+, so good luck trying to kill them :P

anshin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

29 Jul 2007 at 12:44 - 9
technically south of beacons in the story is after the desert...

rangers are very good by themselves don't waste skill slots with non ranger skills... except rebirth

zoobooboozoo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

29 Jul 2007 at 15:41 - 10
about the 1st question... does each class has it's own advantages regardless of the attribute points?
for example rangers with bows and elementalists with casting elemental spells"?

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

30 Jul 2007 at 11:23 - 11
Not really, an ele with a bow with no points in marks will be just as good as a ranger.

seeing as a ranger primary attribute expertise affects most ranger skills, and they can get runes to boost their points in marks they will always end up with an advantage once points are distributed.