The new Party Search Menu is working

I just made 5 transactions in about 10 minutes:

someone advertising for Ghial - sold mine for 12k
someone advertising for nec tomes - sold 10 for 5k
someone advertising for green monk staff - sold one I had in storage for 5k
someone advertising lockpicks - bought 20 for 25k
someone advertising for ele tomes - sold 2 for 1.4k

All this was done by scanning Party search in Kamadan, followed by a quick whisper a quick barter and a quick trade.

I've never had such an easy time trading. Of course, it's always easier to sell to a buyer using "WTB" than selling your own stuff with a "WTS," but I have to say the new party search functionality seems to have made trading a lot easier.

I don't know if it's quite hit critical mass, but it's getting there.

It helped the trade spam a ton and so much easier to browse that then to have to scroll back through things looking at everything said in chat.

How does this represent even remote proof that the new party search system works. Sure people are using it. I doubt that number will grow, and you can do the exact same thing in Trade Chat, in a literal sense, word restrictions and all.

Experiences vary.

it actually seems to have improved getting groups too...at least it makes people use it more for getting groups together.

It's better than before, but I don't get why it has to say 'Party Search' in front all the time. It's so unnecessary.

I rarely use party search for trades. I might give a quick scan but people are using W T S and WT.S to avoid the party search filter. That, and people even do that in ALL chat. Makes me wish there was a /slap emote.

It's quite simple, the more things get posted in PS, the more things that will get traded through it. I've talked to lots of people that say the first thing they do when they enter the trade cities is check out the PS window (even before the update). And I've made several sales by doing just that, even more now that there are ads in PS. I see a WTB ad, pm the buyer, and either make a quick sale or find out the person has already gotten what he/she was looking for.

Those things the OP listed have always easily fit into the PS window (greens, tomes, and keys). It gets complicated when you need to give the stats when selling things. I won't go so far as to say that it's working well. But it is working better than it did before the change.

i still only see 1/2 of people using the search party pannel, still lots of trade spam in the all and trade chat channels.

I found this especially amusing, before the current change the mantra was it wasn't used because no one knew it was there. Now we see many going out of their way to avoid it. At worst it is one more place for the message to get out. One of the main reasons I find this amusing was the vehemence and insults thrown at those of us who thought otherwise (not to mention the changed stories - those of us who said thusly are still idiots though, just now for different reasons).

Ah well, I can understand the text limitation irritation especially when trying to sell something and I can understand just not really caring, but I can't see going out of your way to avoid having it automatically added - it is not like even in the cases it goofs up your message you are beholden to it.

It has been a while since I even bothered with the trade channel to purchase something (well before the current anti-spam stuff in local, even then I refused to purchase from someone spamming in local) - open the party search and see, go to another outpost if it is not there. There are WAY to many messages scrolling by and take too much effort to find most trivial things in chat. I can peruse the party search at my leisure, but apparently I am in the minority. Hopefully more will start to use it when they want to purchase something too.

I use W T S, when selling stuff which needs more information, weapons and shields, because if I put on all the information and price, it doens't fit to the party search. There's not just simply enough letters allowed.

Whenever I buy something now, I just scan party search. Scrolling up and down chat - or sitting there waiting for something new to appear, is horrible. I don't want to waste time. Scanning party search for something is quick and easy, and if something is cut off, I PM for more information.

I love the party search feature, it makes both trading and looking for groups much easier. I hated having to try and scroll upwards through a constantly move trade chat window, it's just a lot easier to see everything now.

I know some people would like more space, but I don't think it's that unnecessary. If you just give the name of the shield, for example, anyone who's interested in buying it is going to ask to see it first anyway.

It's called advertisement Why do we have a GW:EotN login screen while we don't even have GW:EotN ? Cause its advertisement , free one too, the more you see it the more likely you are to buy it, in this situation the more you see "party search" the more likely you are to use it, at least thats the idea.

Well, there is one definite advantage: when you zone in, you can have quick glance at party search window and see most of stuff advertized in town before you were there, that manes that you can scan for good deals and leave immediatelly for another city.

not that i do it thou, people with better items or more items avoid trade chat because text limit means that advertizing text is too short to contain all the needed info and price as well.

/Highfive works just as good

On the note of the new Party Search,i can't really comment on it,i've hardly been trading lately or have trade chat on in the main towns.

Still needs longer string limits, but yes, it does appear to be helping a little.

Well its fine for selling or buying greens or generic cheap nf stuff. But its still impossible to advertise certain things in it, with proper price/mods included. Ill still use WT S/B mostly unless it changes.

its good for buying common stuffs.I got flooded with people selling tomes in less than 5 minutes.

Is ANet even trying to fix the short-length issue of Party Search messages, that with the new filtering system is now even making its way into the normal chat instead of just the Party Window? Are they simply ignoring the message-length problem and hoping the whining about it stops? Has there been ANY word on this, other than it's "impossible" to change?

The idea in principle is great. Problem is, ANet needs to get on the ball and fix the length problem, or remove the recent filtering upgrade altogether. The chat channels are filled with half-length stuff from longer messages getting cut off. It's worse than it was right before the so-called "upgrade" (lol). If we all had mind-reading ability and could accurately advertise with 15-character lines of text, then it would be perfect. As it is right now, with all the trade limitations, we need more space to be allowed to advertise properly. Simple as that.

So much new spam from all the cut-off messages. I can't use common phrases anymore like "lfg" or "WTS", because the message length in normal chat or trade chat has been nerfed if I do use them. It's been "Looking for group" and "Selling" for me. There's one major flaw with filtering messages into the Party Search Window. What if I'm trying to sell more than one thing, like you know, the average seller does because even the old chat message length wasn't long enough to fit a list of more than maybe 4 things (if you don't include stats)? The latest thing I text is what's placed into the Party Search window. Since I'm always re-texting my messages my Party Search window message keeps getting switched. Lot of good that does me.


ANet should try and use the hotlinkable build template sharing window for their trade system. (The window that pops up with a shared build template looks mightily similar to a trade window, don't you think? We can mouse-over skills just like we can mouse-over tradeables in a trade window. Hmmm...). If that could be done, maybe we wouldn't need more advertising space than the new filtering system allows us. Although, it's probably "impossible" to convert the hotlinkable build template sharing window tech for other uses in the game. (We know, we know.)

I know Gaile said it's impossible to increase the length of the text in PS but I don't really understand HOW.

Any ideas?

Actually Gaile later said that they are working on a way around the limitation.

Given the gradual shift that's going on, I have this advice for sellers:

Put a short version of what you're selling in Party Search even if you're going to spam the long version.

Say "WTS Q9 Colossal Scimitar" once so it goes into party search.

Then say "~~~***W T S Inscribable [Req 9 Sword] !!COLOSSAL SCIMITAR!! 15^50 20/20 +5 armor = 100K +5e OBO ***~~~!!!!!!11!ONE!"

I don't read the district 1 spam anymore, but I'm sure many still do. If you put out two messages, you'll increase your audience and chances of making a trade.

I've been using the Trade Menu to do my business in Kamadan for awhile now. I don't understand how someone could hate the Trade Menu with such a passion as to dismiss it and people who use it.

Of course, I'm not saying it doesn't need a few improvements. Personally, I think Trade should be given its own tab in the Party Search, and is seperated into a "WTB" and "WTS" category. That way people don't have to waste space in the text field putting "WTB" or "B", and whatnot. And on that note, I agree that the text limit should be longer.

The hotlink window ala Skill Template ideas was a superb one. World of Warcraft does the same thing, and ruther well. With the Skill Template hotlink already in the game, I don't see how hard it would be to add Item functionality to it.

Pretend your trying to sell it in a cell phone text message.

yesterday in lions i saw 60 entries in lions arch.

thats a big improvement. I've had an easier time selling too. Still doesnt mean selling is fun -.-

Hi, am i the only one who noticed this... ITS CALLED PARTY SEARCH AND EVERYONE IS TRYING TO USE IT FOR TRADE!! If you dont see the problem with this, well, if you want to save yourself lots of money paddleballs are great fun and it may last you YEARS of entertainment...

P.S. Dont split hairs and say that "i found a party with it once," the OP is "Party search is working" and all posts are trade related, and it BARELY works for trades(txttlksuxurlame4writingit).

I have to say I find it a lot easier to sell stuff as well. I just scan the WTB's and if I have an item I'll whisper someone, its saved me a considerable amount of time and energy so far.

Yup agreed, it works very well in trading.

it works perfectly fine for grouping. all the posts are about trading because that is where the concern has been. And if they just fix up the character limit like they said they're looking into, it will be perfect for trade as well.

^ I never said it didnt work for grouping... let me spell it out. NO ONE REALLY WANTED PARTY SEARCH FOR LOOKING FOR A PARTY... SINCE IT WAS IMPLEMENTED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO USE IT FOR TRADING... INSTEAD OF SEEING AND ADDRESSING THE OBVIOUS OUTCRY FOR WHAT WAS NEEDED. THE RESPONSE GIVEN WAS THIS POST BY THE PR :


Another junk update was implemented, then defended when its obvious no one wanted in the face of so many things that are wrong. Its junk not because its entirely unbeneficial, its junk cause we really need some more important things than PS, i.e. a better way to trade, and were getting a "stfu." lol in general some people just need to be told sternly to stfu, you know trollers and such, but this was not one of those instances, Gaile imho was in the wrong here and failed at "relating to the public"... and most of that list is a joke.

Now the only reason people will say it "works" cause its another HALF-ASSED implementation that makes the absolutely detestible trading circumstances of the game a little better. IT STILL SUCKS! In reality people didnt really want it, certainly didnt need it and dont really use it for what its named for... but anet wasted our time and money with it anyways, gg /fail, it doest work. Whats NEEDED is a working vialble trade system I dont care so long as it works and I can be an intelligent human being with it (txtspksuxlrn2splgud). The party search will "work" when people arent using it mostly for trade and its primarily used to find a party...

Qouted For Truth.

And man..Every time I read that Gaile post, a little bit of me dies inside....*sigh*

Buried in your anti-Anet rant was a little admission that Party Search has actually made trade a little better. Thank you for that bit of intellectual honesty.

Your argument basically boils down to, "Party search has improved trading, but we deserve a better trading system." I actually agree with that - minus the bitterness and self-pity.

everything you have listed in your post are items that are very very easy to sell even if you were to spam them in trade chat. Thus, its not a very good indicator that ps is "working".

with our current trading system, most sellers/buyers of obscure/rare items is dependent on timing. its very hit and miss. you may spam all day with no success or you may spam for 5 minutes with lots of success.

i dont do much trading nowadays but i dont consider your example to hold much water.

You completely misunderstood just about everything in my post. Your assumption on "my" argument is all wrong buddy, read it again.Oh yeah in my "rant" if you mean by making it better, not insanely ridiculous to trade shit, youre right I guess, I suppose if you're comparing liquid shit to solid shit, solid is ftw cause its easier to clean up lol... trading on PS is still stupid...
I dont see what you mean by self-pity, guess you just wanna be cool huh? Throw in that little zing there to make you feel like you got one in for your good ol buddy ANET? good for you. lol whatever my logic is still there... you hold split hairs... But yes im bitter... you should be too if you understood... your post shows you OBVIOUSLY don't. But whatever...
I'm not saying it any simpler than I already have, reading comprehension is ftw...