In lots of Ascalon quests Duke Barradin's group of soldiers is referred to as the Vanguard. I'm presuming the Ebon Vanguard are human soldiers from ascalon (from what I've seen) so do you think they are one and the same?
It would be nice to have all the old Ascalons involved in the plot again, I for one really like some of the Ascalon Leader's armor.
Alternatively, Duke B's vanguard wears red cloaks so perhaps they are the Crimson Vanguard and the Ebon Vanguard are a different detachment of the Ascalon forces that were sent into Charr lands and were cut off from their route home.
The Ebon Vanguard
mazey vorstagg
GloryFox
It will be good to return to Ascalon, and see what has happened. I wonder if we will see any other people from pre searing besides Gwen in Eye of the North.
greensuitjacket
Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne. Now that "SPOILERS" Rurik is dead and his father isn't likely to have another child there is no heir to the Ascalonian throne... Or is there.
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG
Sum Gai
From what I saw of the GW:EN trailer, there were a bunch of Ascalonian soldiers near the end. They wore black.
Black = Ebon = different than the red wearing soldiers in Prophecies?
Black = Ebon = different than the red wearing soldiers in Prophecies?
-Loki-
I don't think it's anything that interesting. According to the official wiki, they are just Ascalon Soldiers trapped behind enemy lines.
Clord
Ebon Vanguard might be some kind elite troops.
dargon
Greensuitjacket: would mind mentioning when you're going to potentially spoiler something? I'm not say whetehr or not you did or didn't, but it's generally a polite thing to do.
doinchi
Maybe thier a "rogue" group of soldiers that left, following the footsteps of Rurik and the group of brave heros(thats us!). King Adelbern wanted to stay and fight the Charr, but Rurik wanted to lead the Ascalons away from Ascalon. Many of the men under Adelberns command would probably feel that they would be wasting their lives by throwing themselves at the numerically superior Charr. Maybe this Captain Langmahr that Gwen mentions lead a small rebellion and took control of a detachment of Ascalon soldiers, did away with their red capes and made them don black ones, named them the Ebon Vanguard and engaged in guerilla warfare up north.
Retribution X
THe Ebon vanguard I believe is a elite soldier group, that was on a mission to flank the charr. Then the searing happened, and the charr came up behind them, and they are fighting with the charr still.
stiffler
Well they sound leet if they have been fighting the charr for the last 6 years and are still alive.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by greensuitjacket
Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne. Now that "SPOILERS" Rurik is dead and his father isn't likely to have another child there is no heir to the Ascalonian throne... Or is there.
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG SPOILER?
About Gwen's father: "My daddy was a great warrior, but he died when I was seven. Mommy says maybe we'll see him again after we die. Do you think that's true?"
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gwen
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG SPOILER?
About Gwen's father: "My daddy was a great warrior, but he died when I was seven. Mommy says maybe we'll see him again after we die. Do you think that's true?"
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gwen
Neo Nugget
:O i wonder who Gwens daddy is
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Jumping Is Uselss
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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget
:O i wonder who Gwens daddy is?
A wammo with a fiery dragon sword. J/k Just a thought though
creelie
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
I don't think it's anything that interesting. According to the official wiki, they are just Ascalon Soldiers trapped behind enemy lines.
Hehe, yeah, their armor turned black because it's just THAT dirty =P
super strokey
man that more talk i hear about GWEN the more i want a perfect firey dragon sword... any know of a good place to farm them lol
Personette
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Originally Posted by greensuitjacket
Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne.
GG Wait a second - Duke Barradin was next in line for the throne? Wouldn't that mean he would have to be closely related to the king - most likely a brother? And yet his daughter, Lady Althea, was going to marry Prince Rurik...who would then probably be her first cousin? Ewww.
GG Wait a second - Duke Barradin was next in line for the throne? Wouldn't that mean he would have to be closely related to the king - most likely a brother? And yet his daughter, Lady Althea, was going to marry Prince Rurik...who would then probably be her first cousin? Ewww.
trobinson97
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Originally Posted by Personette
Wait a second - Duke Barradin was next in line for the throne? Wouldn't that mean he would have to be closely related to the king - most likely a brother? And yet his daughter, Lady Althea, was going to marry Prince Rurik...who would then probably be her first cousin? Ewww.
There's a lot of inbreeding when it comes to royal lines and in "elite" wealthy families. Maybe not as close as that, but still a lot of it. Even FDR married his cousin.
Onarik Amrak
Actually, I'm pretty sure Duke Barradin is of no relation to King Adelbern.
If I remember correctly, Barradin is part of the old nobility of Ascalon.
Adelbern is actually a warrior king who got elected to become king after the Guild Wars.
If I remember correctly, Barradin is part of the old nobility of Ascalon.
Adelbern is actually a warrior king who got elected to become king after the Guild Wars.
tenshi_strife
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Originally Posted by super strokey
man that more talk i hear about GWEN the more i want a perfect firey dragon sword... any know of a good place to farm them lol
ive got 2 ^^. but there is really no place to farm them they drop in all high level areas..... look it up on the wiki. so really just farm where you normally farm and hope to god one drops.
Thunder79
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Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
ive got 2 ^^. but there is really no place to farm them they drop in all high level areas..... look it up on the wiki. so really just farm where you normally farm and hope to god one drops.
Just finished Thunderhead Keep and got a gold one out of one of the chests there....this was in normal mode (working on protector)
but yeah...they drop pretty much everywhere in high level areas...might get lucky if you hit hard mode and pop a few chests with lockpicks
but yeah...they drop pretty much everywhere in high level areas...might get lucky if you hit hard mode and pop a few chests with lockpicks
Elisa
Icy Dragon Swords will look way cooler in GW:EN.
X Ice Man X
I recon that they are the Ascalonian Soliders who were the spearhead of the attack on the char home lands after they were thought to be defeated in Ascalon and on the run.
I made a guild named after them regardless
I made a guild named after them regardless
Conjur me
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Originally Posted by greensuitjacket
Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne. Now that "SPOILERS" Rurik is dead and his father isn't likely to have another child there is no heir to the Ascalonian throne... Or is there.
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG i like that idea, but im thinking if pre-searing has anything to do with GWEN, maybe Devona is their leader?
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG i like that idea, but im thinking if pre-searing has anything to do with GWEN, maybe Devona is their leader?
Free Runner
Ebon Vanguard are obviously Ascalon Vanguard/Ascalon Army Soldiers that pushed far into Charr Terrortory and merged to create the Ebon Vanguard.
From what Gwen says from the sound files it appears they have no communication with Ascalon and probably believe everything there perished with the searing.With no home to go back to its simple to establish the Ebon Vanguard and try to survive in the north.
From what Gwen says from the sound files it appears they have no communication with Ascalon and probably believe everything there perished with the searing.With no home to go back to its simple to establish the Ebon Vanguard and try to survive in the north.
kalebmordannon
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Originally Posted by super strokey
man that more talk i hear about GWEN the more i want a perfect firey dragon sword... any know of a good place to farm them lol
i've gotten several farming skyward reach in hard mode.
Komes I
For as far as i know Rurik and Adelbern aren't in the blood line of old kings of Ascalon. Duke Baradin is likely to become a king of a third blood line of king of Ascalon. I am just too tiered to check now so i let it for tommorow.
thunderai
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Originally Posted by Free Runner
Ebon Vanguard are obviously Ascalon Vanguard/Ascalon Army Soldiers that pushed far into Charr Terrortory and merged to create the Ebon Vanguard.
From what Gwen says from the sound files it appears they have no communication with Ascalon and probably believe everything there perished with the searing.With no home to go back to its simple to establish the Ebon Vanguard and try to survive in the north. Sound Files?
From what Gwen says from the sound files it appears they have no communication with Ascalon and probably believe everything there perished with the searing.With no home to go back to its simple to establish the Ebon Vanguard and try to survive in the north. Sound Files?
Shadow
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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Actually, I'm pretty sure Duke Barradin is of no relation to King Adelbern.
If I remember correctly, Barradin is part of the old nobility of Ascalon.
Adelbern is actually a warrior king who got elected to become king after the Guild Wars. He wouldn't be a king if he got "elected."
If I remember correctly, Barradin is part of the old nobility of Ascalon.
Adelbern is actually a warrior king who got elected to become king after the Guild Wars. He wouldn't be a king if he got "elected."
Free Runner
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Originally Posted by thunderai
Sound Files?
Someone took sound files out of the dat. They appear to be the first conversation you make with Gwen when you meet her (The Player does not confirm he is from Ascalon so it is yet to be known if Gwen will even know you to make up for Canthans and Elonans)
She also gives the name of the captain who she is standing in for - Captain Langmar (sp?)
She also gives the name of the captain who she is standing in for - Captain Langmar (sp?)
Personette
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He wouldn't be a king if he got "elected."
I believe that the king of Poland was elected to the role for a while...during the 18th century or thereabouts?
There may be other examples.
There may be other examples.
Metal Herc
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Originally Posted by Conjur me
i like that idea, but im thinking if pre-searing has anything to do with GWEN, maybe Devona is their leader?
Couldnt be. Devona followed the Hero (you) through to acension and beyond. She then went to cantha and elona in turn.
Lady Lozza
Monarchs can be elected. What makes a monarchy a monarchy is the method of government.
Is Gwen being "of royal blood" a theory or fact?
I think I might have to create a character to wander around in pre for a little while.
Is Gwen being "of royal blood" a theory or fact?
I think I might have to create a character to wander around in pre for a little while.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by Shadow
He wouldn't be a king if he got "elected."
President Adelbern or Prime Minister Adelbern doesn't have the same ring to it.
Vitas
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
SPOILER?
About Gwen's father: "My daddy was a great warrior, but he died when I was seven. Mommy says maybe we'll see him again after we die. Do you think that's true?"
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gwen Was Rurik an only child? Was Adelbern an only child?
About Gwen's father: "My daddy was a great warrior, but he died when I was seven. Mommy says maybe we'll see him again after we die. Do you think that's true?"
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gwen Was Rurik an only child? Was Adelbern an only child?
blue.rellik
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Was Rurik an only child? Was Adelbern an only child?
Are you suggesting that Rurik's old lady or granny got around?