Fire Some Devs

Foe

Foe

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

How many hours went into developing the heroes and their ai? What about hero battles and being able to observe them? How much did that cost? How about the loot scaling changes? How many man-hours went into that masterpiece? etc...etc..etc..
Why shell out all this money for stuff noone wants or likes. Some new maps, armour/weapon skins and some well balanced skills/classes. Wtf is the problem?
Heck then you wouldnt have to staff pr ppl to obfuscate unwanted and uneeded changes. I dont want % of my money paying Gale Grays salary, i want new swords and staffs, new f'n arena maps, pvp and not pvp/ai. Could even buy some new hardware. Take a poll, players want more heroway lameness or better ping(i know the answer). So fire half the staff, that way youll be to understaffed to f the game up. New skins, new skills, new maps repeat.....nothing else..you guys have been put on notice. Sometimes i cut myself.

Shaq_gw

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Lowlands Strike Force

Mo/Me

If they would only put in what YOU want then they would loose over half the fanbase so try not to be so egoistic and realise OTHER ppl do like other things. And they have stated before that some changes are made because they feel they are needed, there can always be discussions about that but it is still their decision to make.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I fear the human race sometimes...

So some features are added that you don't want, and others are not added that you would want. Surprise, surprise. That's the case with anything. There's a Rolling Stones song that applies here:

"You can't always get what you want"

MrFuzzles

MrFuzzles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Norway

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
How much did that cost?
More than the monthly fee you pay to play this game.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

What a boring game you want Guild Wars to be. New skins and maps are all well and good, but there needs to be new features, otherwise people get bored - it's just the same thing they played last year but looks different.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrFuzzles
More than the monthly fee you pay to play this game.
Even without the monthly fee, the Hero AI is still pretty unacceptable.

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

Heroes are the best thing to happen to this game since I bought Factions (Factions being my first personal GW title).

mampfo666

mampfo666

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Austria

The Gracefull Drunken Ones[BEER]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Even without the monthly fee, the Hero AI is still pretty unacceptable.
The "HI" of a whole bunch of players is too.

Sometimes i wish i could add more heros instead of ppl.

Despozblehero

Despozblehero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

everything about the game is now pretty much mindless and skilless... im sad

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

W/

The fact that Heroes can have builds you choose and runes, insignia, weapons/off-hands with abilities makes them a godsend in my opinion. At the very least, they're better than Henchmen, and considering that the average pug has disagreements between players (even if not voiced), which tend to break whatever strategy the team leader set out to use, henchmen are better than pugs even though they don't have runes/insignia/bonuses on their weapons/subpar skill bars.

Sol Deathgard

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadows of the Dragon

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
Even without the monthly fee, the Hero AI is still pretty unacceptable.
still 100 times better then henchmen.

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

Yay another "If anet was smart enough to do (insert random thing here) the game would be good" thread. If you don't like the game then do us a favor and quit so we don't have to read pointless rants.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Deathgard
still 100 times better then henchmen.
I'm not disregarding their usefullness. I use them 100% of the time.

What I'm saying is their AI, even though it gets the job done, sucks. The fact that I have to single out certain skills because the Hero uses them poorly is just unacceptable.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

When you see Olias run back, past the radar, to exploit some corpse you left back there in the middle of a fight, you know the AI needs work.

longhornrob

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I'm not disregarding their usefullness. I use them 100% of the time.

What I'm saying is their AI, even though it gets the job done, sucks. The fact that I have to single out certain skills because the Hero uses them poorly is just unacceptable.
So you'd like the Heroes to read your mind? Wouldn't that be neat.

So what, the Heroes aren't perfect. Big deal. It makes the game more challenging, which is never a bad thing. Besides, I'm sure the devs would much rather you play with real live people than Heroes anyway. If they made the Heroes as good as other players, then there'd be nobody joining up with strangers and making new friends. You envision a very boring game.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

There's about 100 fires going on in the Western US, and the OP wants to get himself flamed? There's a 30,000 acre fire up in Montana you could visit instead - it's right near a highway, so getting to it wouldn't require any hiking.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Hero ai seems to be downgraded enemie ai imo, but beats most Human intelligence as stated before. (+ they got godly reflexes can always calculate if that enemie meets a skills condition and can easily target any minion)

wich is kinda sad, that the standard enemies are smarter then a large part of the gw players....

but i agree that reskins are a definite "Do not want" we don't want to spend money on new items/armor we can even make with texmod -_-

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
There's about 100 fires going on in the Western US, and the OP wants to get himself flamed? There's a 30,000 acre fire up in Montana you could visit instead - it's right near a highway, so getting to it wouldn't require any hiking.
And, the best part, he doesnt need to cut himself..oh wait, then he'd look out of place with his emo friends

kenichiukiya

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Rt/

I don't see why the OP is ranting...

get a life. there are millions more beautiful things in life than GW. Go out and enjoy the nature.
GW is just a game.

PLUS, if ANet fired half of its staff it'll be 'understaffed' to make us anymore good changes.

daky

daky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

GG to rambling idiots. If your unhappy with this game...why play it :O I smell an addiction.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenichiukiya
get a life. there are millions more beautiful things in life than GW. Go out and enjoy the nature.
GW is just a game.
Indeed. I personally like to go to the beach, farm some shells, earn a few points towards my fitness skill walking, enjoy the excellent fractal water effects, etc.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Great! Another "Fire Gaile Gray!!" troll tread.

Close plz.

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

I'm more curious as to what sparked this tirade. It seems very random.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

What a lame topic start. First speak for yourself. Don't assume that 'noone wants or likes' stuff you don't want or like.

Personally I absolutely like the heroes, and I understand the desicion the devvers made with the loot scaling. Overall I absolutely like this game and want to thank the development team for the exceptional quality they acchieved with Guild Wars. Especially the stability is excellent, no more weird crashes that happened to so many other games.

Sure, there are things that could be improved (like the aspenwood leaching) and there are other things that don't match my peronal taste (like the low level cap) but generally I have no reason to complain.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

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