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Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

01 Aug 2007 at 04:33 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

My congratulations to Arena Net, and their vision of PVP , 321 spike, 321 spike, 321 spike.

Remember Bloodspike? There have always been spike teams. However, what people forget is that they eventually die out. Bloodspike was never nerfed, but it's not used anymore.

gasmaskman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

None, I don't play anymore.

Mo/W

01 Aug 2007 at 04:38 - 42

You know what's funny? Not only do the PvE players want their weekend, the PvP players don't even WANT these. We (at least the majority I know of) don't care/need faction, and know HA is already dead. I'm sure not one person would complain if they just skipped PvP weekends altogether and just did PvE ones.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 04:41 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Remember Bloodspike? There have always been spike teams. However, what people forget is that they eventually die out. Bloodspike was never nerfed, but it's not used anymore.

Bloodspike was free fame. Other than soul reaping, it was not overpowered at all, and was easy to interrupt and/or infuse (really good teams MIGHT be able to spike fast enough to drain your infuser, but not if you applied really good pressure). Ritspike, paragon spike, zergway (in theory, but no one decent runs this, so yea), heroway, etc. etc. are all infinitely more overpowered and more difficult to counter than iway or bloodspike ever were.

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

W/

01 Aug 2007 at 04:56 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder79

would you be complaining if the tides were turned and pvp players were left dry on a weekend that was supposed to be a pvp weekend? I'd bet money on it.

No, the fewer PvP weekends, the better. Every weekend makes titles worth a little less and only serve to inflate egos. After this weekend, Fierce Champion is no longer indicative of anything. After the previous weekend, it was Champion. Also, notice that HA rank inflation is occurring, expedited by the weekend events.

I'm sure you'd find many happy PvPers if they got rid of these weekends altogether.

And before you say "Well you don't really PvP then," know that you're talking to a core Warrior from Error Seven Operators [Call], currently ranked 22 on the ladder. That isn't a brag, just a way to show that I am, in fact, an experienced PvPer.

ichigo_panty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]

01 Aug 2007 at 05:03 - 45

I agree with Relambrien.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relambrien

No, the fewer PvP weekends, the better. Every weekend makes titles worth a little less and only serve to inflate egos. After this weekend, Fierce Champion is no longer indicative of anything. After the previous weekend, it was Champion. Also, notice that HA rank inflation is occurring, expedited by the weekend events.

I'm sure you'd find many happy PvPers if they got rid of these weekends altogether.

The fewer the PvP weekend, the happier the pvp-ers are.
The more the PvE weekend, the happier the pve-ers are.

So, I would rather see more weekend events for PvE and not PvP. This is making PvP-Only titles worthless.

Devil Dante

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Cyprus, limassol

Devils Rejects [dR]

E/Me

01 Aug 2007 at 05:19 - 46

That's nice..I've been on 672 fame for too long

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 05:22 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichigo_panty

The fewer the PvP weekend, the happier the pvp-ers are.
The more the PvE weekend, the happier the pve-ers are.

So, I would rather see more weekend events for PvE and not PvP. This is making PvP-Only titles worthless.

/signed. I came back after quitting from 6v6, and skipped the second double fame weekend. I now find my rank ridiculously inadequate and find myself swamped with absolutely horrible players of the same rank bracket. Granted before I quit, I understood that pugs sucked and was a much better player than my rank, but could still find decent players 30-50% of the time... but now it's just ridiculous, and after this third weekend, balanced players who don't already have rank 10 or so are going to be left in the dust.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

01 Aug 2007 at 05:31 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichigo_panty

The fewer the PvP weekend, the happier the pvp-ers are.
The more the PvE weekend, the happier the pve-ers are.

So, I would rather see more weekend events for PvE and not PvP. This is making PvP-Only titles worthless.

QFT
While I always try to abuse them to their fullest when I only get the time (for example 1100 fame during the first double weekend) I don't like them, they hurt the meaning of the titles badly.

And we desperately need a skill balance update before this weekend. Seeing another Oliasway makes me want to vomit, and this weekend will bring all gimmicks to the extreme.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

01 Aug 2007 at 05:52 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nurse With Wound

What a dumb idea. It will be one lame heroway farming fest.

How about fixing the problems first ( why don't you read what PVP players think about you in Gladiator;s Arena, or QQ forums ), then make silly weekends no one wants. Anet fails again.

Agree, *sigh*

ichigo_panty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Exiled And Forsaken[EnF]

01 Aug 2007 at 05:56 - 50

The few builds that we will most likely face.

In Number 1 spot : Olias + Master Of Whisper Team
2 : Rit Spike
3 : Paragon Spike
4 : Ranger Spike
...
Last but not least, in last place : Balanced

And guess what, most of the Olias + Master of Whisper teams will be formed by PvE-ers.

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

01 Aug 2007 at 06:10 - 51

I think more ranked players will be playing heroway. Whether they like the build or hate it, its easy/fast fame and if you're good you'll win on KC against the other scrubs trying to run it.

And the number of rank 9s who are actually good at GW will decline, yet again.....

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

01 Aug 2007 at 08:27 - 52

YEy happy happy

gonna get my r10 i hope. Sooner the better :P

hyro yamaguchi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

Mo/Me

01 Aug 2007 at 09:21 - 53

:O

I still need to unlock 4 skills for heroway ritspike!

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 09:29 - 54

Here's something unusual for you: A post that isn't whining!

Yay time to get Bambi <3

shoogi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ray

01 Aug 2007 at 09:35 - 55

That's very wise devs. Now, whenever we say that you don't care about tombs you'll say "Hey, we gave you a weekend!".

Once, you showed some respect to the players. I'll say RIP to that.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

01 Aug 2007 at 10:17 - 56

This will bring out the scrubs. Free fame everyone!!

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

01 Aug 2007 at 10:43 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

This will bring out the scrubs. Free fame everyone!!

It won't be that easy to get fame, a lot of good players will be very active this weekend (those that haven't quit).

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

01 Aug 2007 at 10:50 - 58

Titles were worthless before any double fame/champ/gladiator weekends. That said I think these events are pretty bad.

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

01 Aug 2007 at 11:51 - 59

I'm going to run 4 RC's and 4 Diverts then Heroway will die in a most horrible fashion! RESIGN SPIKE!!!!!!!!

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

01 Aug 2007 at 12:14 - 60

I only need 9 for Rank 5

Get those and leave as soon as possible

Death_From_Above

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/E

01 Aug 2007 at 13:51 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder79

screw you too...

I have just as much of a right to whine about the weekend as you...

would you be complaining if the tides were turned and pvp players were left dry on a weekend that was supposed to be a pvp weekend? I'd bet money on it.

Oi shut up guy. You have no dam right to complain after all how many weekened events do you get. Dam loser, the pvp community wouldnt be complaining if the tides were turned because were not intrested in stupid weekend events anymore being anet suck and have messed up HA royallllly. Whats the point of having a lame weekend event that only messes up the rank system even more especially when gimmicks are so rampart at the moment. This is just pure stupidity and im sorry but i have to say it but it is. With the coding ect anet did for this event would it not have been wiser to tackle some of the most pressing issues of HA of which some would be so easy to fix such as,

HEROS
SKILL BALANCE
REVERT HA BACK TO ALTER CAPPING
GET RID OF CAP POINTS AND ALL THAT JUNK AND RELIC RUN IN HALLS. basically just put HA back to how it was.

Seriously who makes all these stupid descisions. And people come up with a heap of toss that anet dont have time on HA.They have enough time to fix it but there just to dam lazy and rather spend it on unnessercary stuff such as this event. This is basically salt in the wound. How can you have a weekened event of double fame when basically HAs ruind, 7/8 of the good pvpers have left and wont even consider comming back unless HAs fixed. You got heroway owning ect. Seriously does this seem right to you. All the herowayers and ritspikers basically gonna zoom up the rank ladder. GG ANET (your such failures in terms of pvp).

There like broke politicians. You ask them for something simple (go HA section and look at the HA poll) and they throw you something else. Its like if im poor and i want cloths and food and anet throw me a spade. Someone in the companys not doing there job correctly not at all and any who can defend the persons whos making such choices i ask you to stand up because frankly its undefendable.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

01 Aug 2007 at 13:55 - 62

It's been alluded to, but honestly...

This is a PvE weekend. This is an opportunity for PvEers to flood HA with their Olias and Master of Whispers, join PuGs without Vent, and gain their Deer.

Most PvPers, unless they are into farming heroes, will stay away.

Despozblehero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

01 Aug 2007 at 16:17 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

See the problem is, even if they do skill balance, it will probably be a shitty one that balances about 10 skills that don't matter in the great scheme of things.

But Dwarven battle stance is leet and it keeps getting stronger and stronger!
LEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY!

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 16:32 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

It's been alluded to, but honestly...

This is a PvE weekend. This is an opportunity for PvEers to flood HA with their Olias and Master of Whispers, join PuGs without Vent, and gain their Deer.

Most PvPers, unless they are into farming heroes, will stay away.

Well, it depends what you consider a PvPer. If you consider them a balanced player who knows the game, most will stay away (although I admit, I am going to play because I HAVE to rank up or I will be left in an ever-increasing dust of shitty players). Now, if you consider the people with an IQ of 90 that do ritspike, zergway, etc. and think they're leet cause they can 321 PvPers, then no, they will not stay away, because they think rank and fame are everything and mean they're good.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

01 Aug 2007 at 16:34 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimme Money Plzkthx

Well, it depends what you consider a PvPer. If you consider them a balanced player who knows the game, most will stay away (although I admit, I am going to play because I HAVE to rank up or I will be left in an ever-increasing dust of shitty players). Now, if you consider the people with an IQ of 90 that do ritspike, zergway, etc. and think they're leet cause they can 321 PvPers, then no, they will not stay away, because they think rank and fame are everything and mean they're good.

You kinda contradicted yourself there.....

I'll leave you to figure it out.

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 16:42 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

You kinda contradicted yourself there.....

I'll leave you to figure it out.

No I pretty much didn't if you read it properly.

shoogi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Ray

01 Aug 2007 at 17:02 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despozblehero

But Dwarven battle stance is leet and it keeps getting stronger and stronger!
LEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY!

lol ^^

Actually I tried Dwarven Battle Stance in RA and it turned up as kinda effective. For 10 secs the monk can't cast anything except maybe a reversal, which is enough time to kill him with spacebar attacks. That skill really depends on luck, but if you're lucky then you totally shutdown your target.

hehe I should try 3 DBS wars in HA sometime :P
LEERROOYYY!

dsielschott

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

KURZ

W/Mo

01 Aug 2007 at 18:40 - 68

If you don't like the weekend don't participate, just better for all of us that way. For all of you PvP players out there who do this all the time just think more easy NOOB teams to dominate for faster points.

Don't complain about weekends that help the general public, just think they could just not do them at all.
O and I am one of those PvPers that does ritspike and others like that cause it is easy and effective for my experience lvl in HA. Just because I run the easy way out doesnt make me a bad player just a smart time effective player.

and again if you dont like it dont play then you wont get upset about things and you wont have to whine to people over the internet.

Thats all i got. Hope to see you there cause then i'll get a challenge and hopefully learn a thing or two at the same time.

Death_From_Above

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/E

01 Aug 2007 at 19:29 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsielschott

If you don't like the weekend don't participate, just better for all of us that way. For all of you PvP players out there who do this all the time just think more easy NOOB teams to dominate for faster points.

Don't complain about weekends that help the general public, just think they could just not do them at all.
O and I am one of those PvPers that does ritspike and others like that cause it is easy and effective for my experience lvl in HA. Just because I run the easy way out doesnt make me a bad player just a smart time effective player.

and again if you dont like it dont play then you wont get upset about things and you wont have to whine to people over the internet.

Thats all i got. Hope to see you there cause then i'll get a challenge and hopefully learn a thing or two at the same time.

You sir are what is wrong with HA. We dont play HA to dominate noob teams we play for the challange infact we prefer to play experianced teams most of the time. If you didnt notice also, this does not benefit the gernal community. Something that would benefit the general community however is if anet decided to actually fix HA. And playing ritspike does not make you a good player im afraid. The skills you learn in gimmicks such as that do not help make you at all an a nice rounded player.

As for if you dont play it, im affraid you have missed the whole point. Many experianced HAers are not going to play it for one, and the reason were upset is because of the lies anet have told us and because they have ignored us and tried take us for a ride for over a year now. Then to add sault in the wound they do stupid events like this when such requests of the community like remove kill count could have been removed using that time instead.

Please dont talk on matters you dont understand. I would suggest keeping your lips closed and just keep on observing untill you actual get a grasp of what were complaining about and what is actually going on here.

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

01 Aug 2007 at 20:00 - 70

bullshit.
We all are playing just from 2 reasons : fame. And Fun. And losing to expirienced team just isnt included in this calculation. And for stupid event : go in ID district while this event is gonna be on, you'll be suprised how much ppl thinks in opposite way that you do.
So if it's stupid event are you gonna be part of it? I doubt that anyone with a part of brain is gonna say : "No, i'm not participating this out of protest becuase a-net doesnt listen to players" while you can get much more fame than normaly.
With or without killcount.

Despozblehero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Me/

01 Aug 2007 at 21:48 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

bullshit.We all are playing just from 2 reasons : fame. And Fun.

Actually me and my entire Guild only played for that 1st reason FUN, Fame just came as a by product and doesnt even really matter if youre not completely self-obsessed...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

And losing to expirienced team just isnt included in this calculation.

I agree... but anet should encourage skill and tactics for the higher lvl PvP in their lower lvl PvP, not dummy down the high end PvP with win buttons and gimmicks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

]So if it's stupid event are you gonna be part of it? I doubt that anyone with a part of brain is gonna say : "No, i'm not participating this out of protest becuase a-net doesnt listen to players" while you can get much more fame than normaly.
With or without killcount.

I have a complete, working, intellegent brain.
Playing vs heroway/ritspike/zergway is no fun. I want play a game of strategy and tactics like a game of chess when i go to HA, not mindless 1234 1234 1234 button mashing. Nor do i want to play "build wars."
But I'll say it:
No, I'm not participating in this weekend event out of protest because anet doesnt listen to its players.

Although I wouldn't have played anyways cause Im not playing at all for the very same reason... same with my entire guild...

have fun with youre mindless skilless heroway weekend I take pride in myself and the rank that I earn so i dont play bullshit...

Gimme Money Plzkthx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

01 Aug 2007 at 22:54 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despozblehero

Actually me and my entire Guild only played for that 1st reason FUN, Fame just came as a by product and doesnt even really matter if youre not completely self-obsessed...

I agree... but anet should encourage skill and tactics for the higher lvl PvP in their lower lvl PvP, not dummy down the high end PvP with win buttons and gimmicks...

I have a complete, working, intellegent brain.
Playing vs heroway/ritspike/zergway is no fun. I want play a game of strategy and tactics like a game of chess when i go to HA, not mindless 1234 1234 1234 button mashing. Nor do i want to play "build wars."
But I'll say it:
No, I'm not participating in this weekend event out of protest because anet doesnt listen to its players.

Although I wouldn't have played anyways cause Im not playing at all for the very same reason... same with my entire guild...

have fun with youre mindless skilless heroway weekend I take pride in myself and the rank that I earn so i dont play bullshit...

Pretty much the same thoughts here. Oh btw morgoth, I skipped out on the second double fame weekend voluntarily because HA, especially on a double weekend like that, blows more than Jenna Jameson on a work day. Of course, for the non r9ers, you pretty much have to play this weekend no matter what or you're going to be left behind a rank... Really though, double fame is annoying title wise, but you wouldn't have people complaining like this if the game weren't unbalanced so much atm.

ARandoman

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Crimson Reconcilement

W/

02 Aug 2007 at 02:42 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relambrien

And before you say "Well you don't really PvP then," know that you're talking to a core Warrior from Error Seven Operators [Call], currently ranked 22 on the ladder. That isn't a brag, just a way to show that I am, in fact, an experienced PvPer.

I'm sorry, but I had to...

LOL

McBimsWitChi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

02 Aug 2007 at 02:47 - 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARandoman

I'm sorry, but I had to...

LOL

I had to LOL at the LOL

judgedread33

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Australia, Crikey!

PwnD, plesure wreckin noob donors

E/Me

02 Aug 2007 at 02:53 - 75

WOOT it will be a gayway feast all weekend dont bother with real ppl.... get heros!!!

Finix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Crimson Reconcilement [CR]

R/

02 Aug 2007 at 03:06 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relambrien

And before you say "Well you don't really PvP then," know that you're talking to a core Warrior from Error Seven Operators [Call], currently ranked 22 on the ladder. That isn't a brag, just a way to show that I am, in fact, an experienced PvPer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARandoman

I'm sorry, but I had to...

LOL

QFT............

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

02 Aug 2007 at 03:14 - 77

I know I'm not moderator here....but....

Guys can you please keep the conversations clean? I'm seeing alot of really nasty comments.

N U L L

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Earth

Order of The Iron Fist

N/W

02 Aug 2007 at 03:45 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

I know I'm not moderator here....but....

Guys can you please keep the conversations clean? I'm seeing alot of really nasty comments.

where????????

Perfected Shadow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Zul'Aman

Umes Uranger U[bot]

02 Aug 2007 at 04:10 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Secondly. Anet....you fail. Again. This is the 3rd double fame weekend, and not once have people thought it to be a good idea.

I doubt that heroway and ritspike players think it's a bad idea. I don't think that players posting on GWG represent a large fraction of GW.

.defekt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ex Talionis [Law], Schindlers Fist [ouch]

02 Aug 2007 at 07:47 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetdoc

It's been alluded to, but honestly...

This is a PvE weekend. This is an opportunity for PvEers to flood HA with their Olias and Master of Whispers, join PuGs without Vent, and gain their Deer.

Most PvPers, unless they are into farming heroes, will stay away.

Uh. No.

This is the reason why people will actually be playing imo.

Easy fame from PvE scrubs thinking they can get their bambi's is the way to go.