To inscribe or not to inscribe.....
Oofus
That is the question I have about GW:EN weapons. Any word on if GW:EN items will be inscription based or not? I imagine they will be. Will be interesting to see how they juggle their desire to make all new items inscribable with the fact that GW:EN takes place in Tyria where items are not inscribable.
Lady Lozza
While it takes place in Tyria, the actual maps themselves are not a part of what we "know" as Tyria - it's a new area. That is my understanding of it.
TedTheDead
I have always thought they would eventually update the Prophesies/Factions drop system to be like NF, similar to the armor change.
Though, I kinda like the current system as-is. Only method to get a +Healing Prayers Shield heh.
Though, I kinda like the current system as-is. Only method to get a +Healing Prayers Shield heh.
-Loki-
I recall a Gaile talk in Lions Arch where she went 'down the hall' to confirm whether weapons in EotN would be inscribable, and she said she was told they would be.
manitoba1073
I sure as hell hope not.
darkknightkain
I wonder if switching to inscribe-able translates to nerfing the special unique collector bonuses away.
Like during the armour change, not only all the desert headgears lost their +1 EN, you can't even fix them by adding your own +1 EN insignia back...
If so I'd rather stick to the old system for my existing items.
Like during the armour change, not only all the desert headgears lost their +1 EN, you can't even fix them by adding your own +1 EN insignia back...
If so I'd rather stick to the old system for my existing items.
MirkoTeran
I hope they are not so the rarity is kept up at least for a while.
Raziel665
The only people who don't want weapons in GWEN to be inscribable are people who are looking to make a profit out of farming and selling them.
Inscriptions are great, and I see no reason why GWEN shouldn't have them.
Inscriptions are great, and I see no reason why GWEN shouldn't have them.
Etta
Agree, I like the inscriptions. Infact I do hope thay'll retro update all of the old items as well, just for the heck of it. Oh I can hear it now tens of thousand of voices cry out in fear. It'll be like a bomb going off at the riverside.
lucifer_uk
I can see both the advantages and disadvantages of the inscription system.
Although unless they are going to bring the system in for proph as well as EotN I don't see how it will fit in with the continuing story.
Although unless they are going to bring the system in for proph as well as EotN I don't see how it will fit in with the continuing story.
bodyboarder
i hope they dont make it inscripton based weapons since it is in tyria and i have never really liked inscriptions that much brought down the value of many items....=/
Nebuchadnezzer
Bringing down the value is Anet's goal. Inscriptions allow alot of players to get decent weapons by playing without needing to use collectors. It works for everyone except the hardcore people with old rare tyrian/canthan items that they think look better for some reason. :|
Edit: Meso bad typer.
Edit: Meso bad typer.
LobsterMobster
As someone that likes to play the game rather than turn it into another job where I need to somehow maximize my earnings, I love inscriptions and I hope they make a return. In fact, I hope there are NEW inscriptions!
Jetdoc
I hope that they continue the inscription system in GW:EN, but don't change anything in Prophecies and Factions.
Neo Nugget
I would much rather have inscriptions rather than get a weapon with a bad damage mod or no damage mod :O
yes plz inscriptions:O
yes plz inscriptions:O
GranDeWun
They won't change old chapters. GWEN areas are on the same continent as Ascalon, but then again, so is Elona. That means nothing. If you own Proph, you may be able to get to GWEN areas overland, the way you can walk to Elona through the desert. I'm sure the GWEN areas will have heroes, inscriptions, and other Nightfall features.
Hyper Cutter
Inscriptions are vastly, VASTLY superior to the way Tyrian and Canthan weapons are. Not to mention that it means most of the stuff you find is actually worth using.
I hope they make inscriptions retroactive. Not only would it make Tyrian and Canthan drops worth using, the inevitable shitstorm would be hilarious...
I hope they make inscriptions retroactive. Not only would it make Tyrian and Canthan drops worth using, the inevitable shitstorm would be hilarious...
Marth Reynolds
didn't gaile state GW:EN would have inscripted items, or am i just daydreaming here again?
altough weapons without a damage mod would become weapons without a inscription slot and i truly hate those, we need to get rid of em!
altough weapons without a damage mod would become weapons without a inscription slot and i truly hate those, we need to get rid of em!
ShadowsRequiem
inscriptions are fine, but they better not change the mods of old weapons that would suck so much.
Lady Lozza
Prophecies and Factions are great from the point of view of getting those rare items that look somewhat silly when you first pick them up (+healing prayers shield anyone?) but in the right build, on the right character they can actually be useful.
Inscriptions on the otherhand allow for max dmg/energy mod weapons in the skin you like. I've a lovely azure recurve on my ranger for interrupts now. It has max mods - which I put on it, and I really love the skin.
I don't want Anet to change either of the systems - and I don't believe they will - because as they stand at the moment they both have their purpose.
Having said that, I believe the new map areas are more likely to run to inscribables.
Inscriptions on the otherhand allow for max dmg/energy mod weapons in the skin you like. I've a lovely azure recurve on my ranger for interrupts now. It has max mods - which I put on it, and I really love the skin.
I don't want Anet to change either of the systems - and I don't believe they will - because as they stand at the moment they both have their purpose.
Having said that, I believe the new map areas are more likely to run to inscribables.
My Green Storage
I'm sure it was fixed being as that I noticed them when Nightfall came out, but I recall seeing drops that had no inscription slot in NF.
Not sure how that sort of idea would go, inscribable and non inscribable weapon drops to "mix it up" a bit.
Not sure how that sort of idea would go, inscribable and non inscribable weapon drops to "mix it up" a bit.
Molock
Weapons in Tyria and Cantha should drop with inscription slots asap! Farmers will be pissed.. but hey since when has anet cared about the rich players?? lol
Lady Lozza
Just to clarify Green, I wasn't suggesting that they "mix-it-up" only that the new maps in Tyria would drop inscribables.
I think a lot of people are getting confused about the fact that the new maps form a part of the main Tyrian continent. They are new maps, with new quests, and apart from the quests to get us to the new maps, I dare say that the old maps will have nothing to do with GWEN.
(Apart form any physical connection.)
I think a lot of people are getting confused about the fact that the new maps form a part of the main Tyrian continent. They are new maps, with new quests, and apart from the quests to get us to the new maps, I dare say that the old maps will have nothing to do with GWEN.
(Apart form any physical connection.)
ockwell
simple solution.
make more than 95% of the drops inscribable to satisfy the majority (i think most of the posters in this thread want inscribables), but make a rare occasion of something dropping as non-insc (like 5% chance or so) to satisfy those with fetish on rarity.
And don't complain about the % chance being to small or whatever. Keyword: fetish, rarity.
I doubt it's gonna happen tho.
make more than 95% of the drops inscribable to satisfy the majority (i think most of the posters in this thread want inscribables), but make a rare occasion of something dropping as non-insc (like 5% chance or so) to satisfy those with fetish on rarity.
And don't complain about the % chance being to small or whatever. Keyword: fetish, rarity.
I doubt it's gonna happen tho.
Raziel665
Inscriptions finally allowed people to get the skin they wanted with the mods they wanted and not have to stand in LA all day trying to find a person who'll sell you your dream weapon for less than 100k+25ecto.
stiffler
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simple solution.
make more than 95% of the drops inscribable to satisfy the majority (i think most of the posters in this thread want inscribables), but make a rare occasion of something dropping as non-insc (like 5% chance or so) to satisfy those with fetish on rarity.
And don't complain about the % chance being to small or whatever. Keyword: fetish, rarity.
I doubt it's gonna happen tho. I actually like that idea, and some of these rare ones can be unlocked for your HoM.
make more than 95% of the drops inscribable to satisfy the majority (i think most of the posters in this thread want inscribables), but make a rare occasion of something dropping as non-insc (like 5% chance or so) to satisfy those with fetish on rarity.
And don't complain about the % chance being to small or whatever. Keyword: fetish, rarity.
I doubt it's gonna happen tho. I actually like that idea, and some of these rare ones can be unlocked for your HoM.
tyche7
I vote very big much for inscriptions to be in it.
Just Another Chest Runner
inscripts are fine,but dont change the ones in tyria/factions
if anet ever does change over all the old items....my friend is gonna be happy about hsi req 7 fellblade....
if anet ever does change over all the old items....my friend is gonna be happy about hsi req 7 fellblade....
My Green Storage
I agree that GW:EN will probably go the inscribable way.
I also agree I too don't want them to change the other campaigns to "get with the times" of inscribables. I own 2 Tyrian weapons of some value.
Req 9 15% stance and Req 11 +5 energy Sephis axes.
Neither are worth much, but I don't want them to be inscribable.
But what I was just making a general statement, if they made it so it WOULD drop both inscribable and non-inscribable weapons.
Of course the big downside .. "WTF how is my insribable weapon less in price of his non-inscribable weapon!!!"
They did that with Sephis Axes and Dead Bows.
Although that took 2 campaigns (Proph/NF).
Mah, I know they're going inscribable only.
Make me miss out on my non-inscribable Req 8 Magma Sword and Magma Bow
-offtopic-
Would be sweet if they had a fire version of the storm bow. Instead of ice rings, they had flames.
I'd buy one
I also agree I too don't want them to change the other campaigns to "get with the times" of inscribables. I own 2 Tyrian weapons of some value.
Req 9 15% stance and Req 11 +5 energy Sephis axes.
Neither are worth much, but I don't want them to be inscribable.
But what I was just making a general statement, if they made it so it WOULD drop both inscribable and non-inscribable weapons.
Of course the big downside .. "WTF how is my insribable weapon less in price of his non-inscribable weapon!!!"
They did that with Sephis Axes and Dead Bows.
Although that took 2 campaigns (Proph/NF).
Mah, I know they're going inscribable only.
Make me miss out on my non-inscribable Req 8 Magma Sword and Magma Bow
-offtopic-
Would be sweet if they had a fire version of the storm bow. Instead of ice rings, they had flames.
I'd buy one
Raziel665
So in general, people who don't like inscriptions, only do so cause they might lose money on it...
Oofus
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So in general, people who don't like inscriptions, only do so cause they might lose money on it...
Don't make generalizations about what is going on in other people’s heads. If you want to start a "haves" Vs "have nots" argument start your own thread to make obnoxious accusations and generalizations please. Don't turn my thread, asking if there is any ACTUALL information on what actually IS the case, into a flame fest.
MithranArkanere
GW:EN is confirmed to have the inscription system.
And I just hope they make it worldwide. Or it would be Battle isles, Nightfall, GW:EN and then Tyria and Cantha left out, even when they already give inscribed items in the Canthan Elite missions.
I'll be happy when they fix that. And for people that do not want inscription system added.... well... there's just absolutely no reason not to do it. Keeping the value and rarity of an item is NOT a reason. Not in GW.
They made the insignia worldwide, after all. Nothing can't stop change, specially when such a change is wanted so much and greatly beneficial for the mayority of players. Want to save cash? Store it as money, not as items. Or you'll lose it like many lost money when ectos decreased in price.
And I just hope they make it worldwide. Or it would be Battle isles, Nightfall, GW:EN and then Tyria and Cantha left out, even when they already give inscribed items in the Canthan Elite missions.
I'll be happy when they fix that. And for people that do not want inscription system added.... well... there's just absolutely no reason not to do it. Keeping the value and rarity of an item is NOT a reason. Not in GW.
They made the insignia worldwide, after all. Nothing can't stop change, specially when such a change is wanted so much and greatly beneficial for the mayority of players. Want to save cash? Store it as money, not as items. Or you'll lose it like many lost money when ectos decreased in price.
Oofus
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Keeping the value and rarity of an item is NOT a reason.
Actually it IS a reason. It may not be a reason you like, or agree with, but it certainly IS a reason.
I MP I
Believe its been confirmed that GW:EN will indeed have inscribable items. While I don't mind inscribable stuff in GW:EN, really don't want the sweet tyrian/canthan perfects I've bought becoming inscribable. Its not so much that they'd drop in price and become worthless (got more gold then I know what to do with) but the fact that they're just rare, unique, and exclusive to the Prophecies and Factions campaigns makes them special.
MithranArkanere
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Actually it IS a reason. It may not be a reason you like, or agree with, but it certainly IS a reason.
No. Not in GW. Items, all items, decrease value over time. That's an intended gold sink.
Only some miniatures and event items have constant or even increasing prices.
Not drops. The more green items drops from monsters, the less they cost. The more ectos are farmed, the less they are worth. The more a rare skin drops, the less it costs.
And over time, all will cost less, and that's what is was supposed to be. Want to be able to get tons of cash from a single item dropped by a monster? Go to another game. Now, welcome to Guild Wars.
The only truth is that most of the items dropped in Tyria and Cantha are just worthless, while just a few of them have too high prices.
Inscriptions fix that. Making prices dependable more on skin and req, and making them have much more reasonable average prices.
That's why I'm sure that, like Insignia, they will eventually make it worldwide.
The sooner, the better, of course.
Only some miniatures and event items have constant or even increasing prices.
Not drops. The more green items drops from monsters, the less they cost. The more ectos are farmed, the less they are worth. The more a rare skin drops, the less it costs.
And over time, all will cost less, and that's what is was supposed to be. Want to be able to get tons of cash from a single item dropped by a monster? Go to another game. Now, welcome to Guild Wars.
The only truth is that most of the items dropped in Tyria and Cantha are just worthless, while just a few of them have too high prices.
Inscriptions fix that. Making prices dependable more on skin and req, and making them have much more reasonable average prices.
That's why I'm sure that, like Insignia, they will eventually make it worldwide.
The sooner, the better, of course.
White knight lord
I like the inscription slot thing because it has made many weapons cheaper for the folks who really do not play very much or don't get the chance to,But for the people that play when they get a good item they really can't make any money off it because the inscriptions have ruined the value of those items. For the people that try and progress in the game finacially since most all of the other farming builds, spots, or items, are nerfed or trash they got nothign else besides the rare non-inscribable items.
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Inscriptions finally allowed people to get the skin they wanted with the mods they wanted and not have to stand in LA all day trying to find a person who'll sell you your dream weapon for less than 100k+25ecto.
lol, some dream weapons are cheaper now.Even hough the rices are falling Tormented weapons still sell for 100k+60 ectos,Elemental swords 100k +20-50 ectos,inscribalbe crystallines 200-300 ectos. hmmm inscribeable dream weapons are cheap....
White knight lord
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Just to clarify Green, I wasn't suggesting that they "mix-it-up" only that the new maps in Tyria would drop inscribables.
I think a lot of people are getting confused about the fact that the new maps form a part of the main Tyrian continent. They are new maps, with new quests, and apart from the quests to get us to the new maps, I dare say that the old maps will have nothing to do with GWEN.
(Apart form any physical connection.) No connections besides physical...? What about the Charr...Dwarves...and Gwen herself?
I think a lot of people are getting confused about the fact that the new maps form a part of the main Tyrian continent. They are new maps, with new quests, and apart from the quests to get us to the new maps, I dare say that the old maps will have nothing to do with GWEN.
(Apart form any physical connection.) No connections besides physical...? What about the Charr...Dwarves...and Gwen herself?
Oofus
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Only some miniatures and event items have constant or even increasing prices.
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Want to be able to get tons of cash from a single item dropped by a monster? Go to another game. Now, welcome to Guild Wars.
Want to be able to get whatever you want without an ounce of effort exerted, go play Neo Pets. It's perfectly suited to your mentality of how games should be played.
Now stop highjacking my thread troll. This is not a thread about altering existing games, it's about GW:EN
ockwell
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
No. Not in GW. Items, all items, decrease value over time. That's an intended gold sink.
Only some miniatures and event items have constant or even increasing prices. Not drops. The more green items drops from monsters, the less they cost. The more ectos are farmed, the less they are worth. The more a rare skin drops, the less it costs. And over time, all will cost less, and that's what is was supposed to be. Want to be able to get tons of cash from a single item dropped by a monster? Go to another game. Now, welcome to Guild Wars. The only truth is that most of the items dropped in Tyria and Cantha are just worthless, while just a few of them have too high prices. Inscriptions fix that. Making prices dependable more on skin and req, and making them have much more reasonable average prices. That's why I'm sure that, like Insignia, they will eventually make it worldwide. The sooner, the better, of course. Wrong. You're just talking about the supply side of the equation. Req 8 Oni blade 2 weeks before NF came out = 110k. Req 8 Oni blade after NF came out = 250-300k. And they had not stopped dropping (now all req 8 have). it's just that more ppl started to want them more. ecto price before NF came out = 6k-ish. ecto price after DoA released = 9k ish. I don't think ppl stopped farming ecto especially with the E/Me UW solo build being extremely effective and popular around that time. It's just that rich ppl hog ectos for tormented items. Events, updates, and nerfs do make prices fluctuate depending on which side of the equation they're altering. Who cares about what you think is worthless and what you think is not. It's not your game. Then, I don't know what your definition of a ton of money but I just got 100k+3ectos from a SINGLE DROP of req 9 15^50 jade sword. Welcome to Guild Wars EDIT: I go with make GWEN items inscribable btw. (Actually I want incribables and some (rare) occassionally non-insc dropping. But It's been confirmed to not gonna happen. So yeah, go inscribable).
MithranArkanere
The point is that people can get more than 100k for asingle item without inscriptions, and with inscriptions, you got it only if the skin is rare enough.
That's why GW:EN will have inscriptions. |