Can you be banned for accepting bought gold?
actionbatman
Today a friend that hasnt been playing Guild wars for long gived me over 90 platinium so i could buy some stuff. Im worried however because i think he might have bought that gold. I was just wandering if my account is in any danger of being banned if he did buy that gold because i took some of him?
Lykan
No
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Xenex Xclame
Lets put it in a more believable story, sorry but i don't believe yours.
Question,
If i buy gold with my mule account and then transfer the gold to my "real" account can i get banned?Or is this a really smart way to bypass the rules, I mean i can always tell Anet i didn't know the owner of the other account ( lets say he is my sisters old boyfriend) had bought gold online, i just thought he got really lucky on a drop.
Answer.
Yes, Anet can ban you for whatever they like, even if that whatever is nothing,Should you risk it and see what happens?I dunno, thats up to you.
Question,
If i buy gold with my mule account and then transfer the gold to my "real" account can i get banned?Or is this a really smart way to bypass the rules, I mean i can always tell Anet i didn't know the owner of the other account ( lets say he is my sisters old boyfriend) had bought gold online, i just thought he got really lucky on a drop.
Answer.
Yes, Anet can ban you for whatever they like, even if that whatever is nothing,Should you risk it and see what happens?I dunno, thats up to you.
Roo Ella
Here is the thing that worries me
I have 2 accounts and I know I am not the only one here
but I am always transferring stuff weapons materials and even Gold from one
account to the other as the need arises for diff chars
Never large amounts cause I don't make that much
but surly they have check marks in place to trace where the gold items ect came from?
Or do they see such and such account transfered say 20k 50k even 100k to another account
so that must be a gold selling account lets ban em.
How do they know there not banning on a mistake and you own the both accounts?
I have 2 accounts and I know I am not the only one here
but I am always transferring stuff weapons materials and even Gold from one
account to the other as the need arises for diff chars
Never large amounts cause I don't make that much
but surly they have check marks in place to trace where the gold items ect came from?
Or do they see such and such account transfered say 20k 50k even 100k to another account
so that must be a gold selling account lets ban em.
How do they know there not banning on a mistake and you own the both accounts?
Xenex Xclame
No thats the thing, i don't think you will be seen as suspicious for doing that, if you did large amounts then yes.But i think its more of if they see the same account sending 500K+ ( or do i mean 5000K, cant remember what the limit of money is? ) to multiple accounts on a regular basis it raises flags.
But not counting that, i don't think they really have a way to determine what raises flags or not, i think its just that if someone gets reported for selling gold, they check that account out, then if they think that they do indeed sell gold, they get banned and then Anet checks for transactions that that account has made and then decided what they do.
So I'm saying i think its much much easier for them to ban the seller then the buyer,because it is easier to detect.
But not counting that, i don't think they really have a way to determine what raises flags or not, i think its just that if someone gets reported for selling gold, they check that account out, then if they think that they do indeed sell gold, they get banned and then Anet checks for transactions that that account has made and then decided what they do.
So I'm saying i think its much much easier for them to ban the seller then the buyer,because it is easier to detect.
ShadowsRequiem
if you get caught buying then you can be banned, but taking free gold from someone (where ever its from) you can't be held accounted for.
Da Mad M00
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
if you get caught buying then you can be banned, but taking free gold from someone (where ever its from) you can't be held accounted for.
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I am sure some flag will be set when an account gets suspicious (same goes for botting). Nobody outside of Anet knows what triggers the flag which is a good thing. If we would know what triggered the flag then we, but also the gold-sellers, can work around it. The only way to get gold banning out of the game is by making sure they can't work around the way Anet uses to detect gold-sellers and bots.
enlightened
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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
Lets put it in a more believable story, sorry but i don't believe yours.
Question, If i buy gold with my mule account and then transfer the gold to my "real" account can i get banned?Or is this a really smart way to bypass the rules, I mean i can always tell Anet i didn't know the owner of the other account ( lets say he is my sisters old boyfriend) had bought gold online, i just thought he got really lucky on a drop. Answer. Yes, Anet can ban you for whatever they like, even if that whatever is nothing,Should you risk it and see what happens?I dunno, thats up to you. |
ShadowsRequiem
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Originally Posted by Da Mad M00
In that case all sellers will give their gold away for free as long as the buyers pay a few bucks for thin air.
I am sure some flag will be set when an account gets suspicious (same goes for botting). Nobody outside of Anet knows what triggers the flag which is a good thing. If we would know what triggered the flag then we, but also the gold-sellers, can work around it. The only way to get gold banning out of the game is by making sure they can't work around the way Anet uses to detect gold-sellers and bots. |
A seller works like giving free gold away, because you're not going to trade them something back are you?
I'm sure anet has things that can see unpersonable controls.
Etta
Well, somebody gotta support those chinese gold farmers y'know. Hey OP, Xenex was right about you, wasn't he? C'mon come clean already.
Da Mad M00
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
I dont think you understand the point. He is referring to accepting free gold from someone in game. For instance his "friend" which he thinks bought that gold from a site. Though his friend can be banned... he cannot for there is no rule against accepting free gold. He's not sure where its from but how would he know that anyway?
A seller works like giving free gold away, because you're not going to trade them something back are you? I'm sure anet has things that can see unpersonable controls. |
For a computer-program there is no difference between "friend" and "gold-seller". So what happens most likely is that an employee of Anet goes thru all the flagged accounts and looks at their actions. Now if that "friend" gave away 50k to 10 friends then they will see 10 transactions of 50k within a short timespan. The Anet employee had no idea he was being nice to his friends and expects him for gold-selling and bans him for that. Now since he was banned from gold-selling the guys that got his money must have been gold-buying. Which is also against the EULA and they can get banned for that.
quickmonty
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Originally Posted by Roo Ella
Here is the thing that worries me
I have 2 accounts and I know I am not the only one here but I am always transferring stuff weapons materials and even Gold from one account to the other as the need arises for diff chars |
Mournblade
You can't really put a tracer on digital money as used in a game like GuildWars. You can track IP addresses and account behavior, but thats it. I mean come on, if we could be banned just for *accepting* improperly obtained gold/items, then there would be a LOT of banned people going WTF?!?
Retribution X
You can't ban people for accepting 3rd party purchased gold, because where the person get the cash is not my busniess. My only problem is if it's real.
Only goverments take money from people who got 3rd party money from illegal sources.
Only goverments take money from people who got 3rd party money from illegal sources.
Forever Faithless
This also bugs me i have 4 accounts all mine same addresses on them all i transfer large amounts of gold and ectos thru them all like once a month or so (2 Euro,1 America,1 Asian) and the other day i traded my other account 100 ecto and after i did that i was like aww no if get banned ocs of this im gunna be well out so am i still ok or ?
Xenex Xclame
So are we to believe that the example i posted is a way to bypass the rules?
I use my mule account , buy money with it and then give it to my real account, maybe my mule account will get banned but my real account is safe?
I use my mule account , buy money with it and then give it to my real account, maybe my mule account will get banned but my real account is safe?
enlightened
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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
So are we to believe that the example i posted is a way to bypass the rules?
I use my mule account , buy money with it and then give it to my real account, maybe my mule account will get banned but my real account is safe? |
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actionbatman
so my account is safe?
Thanks for all the replys aswell.
Was concerned enough to post it because i know in the past he has bought huge ammounts of gold in other games and even used a power leveling service from 0-70 i think in WOW. He always has to be better then us.
Most of the time he does it though just to show off since we live in the same house at uni with 2 others and we all play online games.
My only other concern is since we share a house we all have same address aswell and i know the others to are worried about arenanet banning all are accounts because of him. He got my girlfriends account banned before from another game when he bought money and gived it to her as a birthday present without her even knowing it was bought money.
Thanks for all the replys aswell.
Was concerned enough to post it because i know in the past he has bought huge ammounts of gold in other games and even used a power leveling service from 0-70 i think in WOW. He always has to be better then us.
Most of the time he does it though just to show off since we live in the same house at uni with 2 others and we all play online games.
My only other concern is since we share a house we all have same address aswell and i know the others to are worried about arenanet banning all are accounts because of him. He got my girlfriends account banned before from another game when he bought money and gived it to her as a birthday present without her even knowing it was bought money.
MagmaRed
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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
I dont think you understand the point. He is referring to accepting free gold from someone in game. For instance his "friend" which he thinks bought that gold from a site. Though his friend can be banned... he cannot for there is no rule against accepting free gold. He's not sure where its from but how would he know that anyway?
A seller works like giving free gold away, because you're not going to trade them something back are you? I'm sure anet has things that can see unpersonable controls. |
Friend buys 100k from a bot for 15$ US.
Friend gives 90k to friend - for free.
Anet has no way of knowing that the 'friend' paid a bot 15$ US.
Anet has no way of knowing that he didn't pay his 'friend' 15$ US.
Both look like someone obtaining GW money for real life money.
Mac Sidewinder
In the scenario where the guy accepted free gold from a friend - I think Anet would look at the friend and see if there was a large single transaction prior to this event. Such as this friend accepted a large sum from someone else (gold seller) and make a decision based on that. If Anet see this they probably would assume this was an illegal sale. BUT if they didn't see this happen and the friend amassed this gold by playing then I don't see how they can assume this would be an illegal transaction.
Otherwise any gold transfer from one person to another (whether it be legal or illegal) would be an opportunity for Anet to ban people.
I'm sure Anet makes darned sure that the person they are banning (for life) is guilty before they simply start throwing out the bans. They gotta have undeniable proof - not simply that person A gave person B a large amount of money. Like this sort of thing occurs all the time from the suspected account and so forth.
Otherwise any gold transfer from one person to another (whether it be legal or illegal) would be an opportunity for Anet to ban people.
I'm sure Anet makes darned sure that the person they are banning (for life) is guilty before they simply start throwing out the bans. They gotta have undeniable proof - not simply that person A gave person B a large amount of money. Like this sort of thing occurs all the time from the suspected account and so forth.
Snow Bunny
I know someone that has purchased gold, 500k at least I think.
They told me that the person contacted them in-game, and approached them in a pvp character without a 2nd prof.
So...maybe they can monitor the chat logs?
By the way, did anyone see that moron standing in Balth's Temp int1 saying, "Waiting here for a delivery from -----.com. If you're there, could you please pm me?" Ahhh, good times
They told me that the person contacted them in-game, and approached them in a pvp character without a 2nd prof.
So...maybe they can monitor the chat logs?
By the way, did anyone see that moron standing in Balth's Temp int1 saying, "Waiting here for a delivery from -----.com. If you're there, could you please pm me?" Ahhh, good times
Dawgboy
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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
So are we to believe that the example i posted is a way to bypass the rules?
I use my mule account , buy money with it and then give it to my real account, maybe my mule account will get banned but my real account is safe? |
Why the same ip? because...umm...we live together.
This sounds more believable with each post.
You CAN get banned because of this; both your account and your mule-I mean friend's account. Just having an account with the same ip with him might be enough.
If you're actually telling the truth then tell your friend he'll owe you all the money you paid for GW if he gets your account banned because he's a lazy tool and can't play by the rules.
The Herbalizer
I love how people have accussed / hinted that the OP bought the gold on a alt. account. If you do any research into gold selling you would all know that gold is not usually sold in such random amounts as 90k. Its usually like 100k, 300k, 500k, 1000k etc.
Anyway, ive transfered hundreds and hundreds of ecto and millions of raw gold between mule accounts and I have never been banned once so no need to worry about transferring gold between accounts.
Anyway, ive transfered hundreds and hundreds of ecto and millions of raw gold between mule accounts and I have never been banned once so no need to worry about transferring gold between accounts.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I love how people have accussed / hinted that the OP bought the gold on a alt. account. If you do any research into gold selling you would all know that gold is not usually sold in such random amounts as 90k. Its usually like 100k, 300k, 500k, 1000k etc.
Anyway, ive transfered hundreds and hundreds of ecto and millions of raw gold between mule accounts and I have never been banned once so no need to worry about transferring gold between accounts. |
Xenex Xclame
@ Herbalizer , maybe he bought 100K but left 10K on the mule account?
Hey im just saying
Anyways, the reason i posted that is because how credibly post that say "a friend of mine did something bad" , its like those stories you hear sometimes , where a friend of a friend saw bigfoot once,they just don't seem credible ,I'm not saying the poster bought gold or not, i simply love the "a friend" posts
Hey im just saying
Anyways, the reason i posted that is because how credibly post that say "a friend of mine did something bad" , its like those stories you hear sometimes , where a friend of a friend saw bigfoot once,they just don't seem credible ,I'm not saying the poster bought gold or not, i simply love the "a friend" posts