I Want An Ias!

The Lurch

The Lurch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

In the darkest depths of your mind.

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Okay, I'll get right down to the meat and mashed potatoes of my subject.
Give assassins an IAS, usable in PvP. the Sunspear skill Critical Agility is amazingly wonderful...in PvE.
Since I don't think we will be getting any new skills for EotN then ANet has released (other than pve only skills) I think we should already modify an existing skill into an IAS.
I'm talking about Flashing Blades. IMHO it isnt fully deserving of "elite" status. It gives a 75% chance to block while attacking. Rangers have skills like this where the only drawback is the long recharge. The only thing special about Flashing Blades is that it can be constantly maintained (at 15 Dagger Mastery).
So...why not keep the existing idea of Flashing Blades but add a small IAS to it?

Current Version
Flashing Blades: Elite Stance
Attb: Dagger Mastery
10E, 30CD
For 5...25...32 seconds you have a 75% chance to block incoming attacks while attacking.

My Version
Flashing Blades: Elite Stance
Attb: Dagger Mastery
15E (could be kept at 10) 30CD
For 5...25...32 seconds you attack 10...25...33% faster and have a 75% (could be lower for balance, if needed) to block attacks while attacking.

Essentially, it is kept the same, just with a minor buff. This skill is rarely used or at least from what i see. It comes in handy in FoW and UW when I run it with my sin, but i always feel it is lacking something.

Questions? Comments? Complaints? Feel free to rip this into tiny pieces if you want, as long as its constructive.

*EDIT*: When I said rangers have skills like this, i meant skills that give you a 75% chance to block at very little drawback. I think we all know are good friend Whirling Defense? Thats what I mean

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

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Forgive the stupid question, but what does the acronym IAS mean?

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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increased attack speed. and anyway the reason sins dont have that is because they still have the highest attack speed if you count double strikes, so giving them and increase just makes then all that more deadly and unbalanced. but thats just my opinion

Darkobra

Darkobra

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

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Increased Attack Speed. It's probably been answered by 20 different people by the time I hit enter...

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Thats not gonna happen, ever. Remember BoA sin? Yeah ....

Operative 14

Operative 14

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

[OOP] Order of the Phoenix I

Okay, thanks guys.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Assassins are something like a vulcan machine gun of hits.

That's why the only IAS skill is PvE only. Because it would be unbalanced in PvP.

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

I was gonna say 'no way. Sins are bloody overpowered with IAS'. But if it's elite, it's probably OK. Though no one is going to use it because you can't use Shadow Prison or Moebius anymore.

Div

Div

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Mo/R

If sins ever get an IAS for PvP, it can't be more than 15% or else it'll be insanely imbal...

Speaking of which, I want an IAS for my conjure flame wanding ele too...

The Lurch

The Lurch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

In the darkest depths of your mind.

Guilds are for yuppies.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
I was gonna say 'no way. Sins are bloody overpowered with IAS'. But if it's elite, it's probably OK. Though no one is going to use it because you can't use Shadow Prison or Moebius anymore.
Right! If its an ELITE!!! then they cannot use other overpowered (imho) elites in pvp either (moebius strike, shadow prison, shadow form etc), thus creating sort of a balance.

Plus if you think about it, Locust's fury is sort of an IAS...but I still think flashing blades could be buffed, its hardly used as is right now anyway.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

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If they give sins an IAS even as elite, you can't also be giving them chances to block. If anything, as a drawback to the skill besides being elite, they should lose armor. IAS as a sin skill would be powerful even as an elite.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

simple use IAS skills of ur secondary class oO ?
just a little question, may it be dumb or not XD

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

IAS on daggers is a very powerful technique and is a concious EXCLUSION from the assasin's repetoire of PVP skills because it would be immensely overpowered.

The BoA Sin is proof of how dangerous IAS can be when mixed with many of the assassins existing skills.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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There's a way to fix flashing blades. Turn it into a skill instead of a Stance, and done. It turns into a nice choice.

The Lurch

The Lurch

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

In the darkest depths of your mind.

Guilds are for yuppies.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
The BoA Sin is proof of how dangerous IAS can be when mixed with many of the assassins existing skills.
The dreaded BoA sin was what happens when you mix a non elite IAS with a very very nice sin elite...flashing blades, being ELITE! wouldnt work with shadow prison...

*EDIT*: Heres an idea...why dont we have a new weekend where we include some of these concept skills/skill buffs and/or nerfs in? Make some people happy, and we can see what the effects of doing some of this will be

genofreek

genofreek

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Heres an idea...why dont we have a new weekend where we include some of these concept skills/skill buffs and/or nerfs in? Make some people happy, and we can see what the effects of doing some of this will be
It would be kind of fun to watch PvP go nuts with sudden skills/buffs/nerfs that weren't there before. But that's coming from an observer.

judgedread33

judgedread33

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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u do know when that happens ppl will just adjust their overpowered builds to get the ias... "dark blades sin" sin with flashing blades and dark prison with the normal damage skills (black spider strike, blades of steel, etc.)

nope no way dude never gonna happen

Div

Div

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lurch
*EDIT*: Heres an idea...why dont we have a new weekend where we include some of these concept skills/skill buffs and/or nerfs in? Make some people happy, and we can see what the effects of doing some of this will be
Yeah, let's have a weekend where I want to test what happens if spirit rift does 300 damage and wielders strike hits for 200 unconditional. Top 10 GvG spot in the ladder, here I come! (or wait...eE will beat me to it)

Ultra Mega

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Mo/Me

A new skill in EotN looks like it could be the new IAS for Assassins if they don't mind going Rt secondary.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weapon_of_Aggression
At 4 channeling it is 8 sec and at 7 it is 10 secs for a 25% IAS.
It also has a nice 1/4 sec casting time but it does have a 10en cost.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mega
A new skill in EotN looks like it could be the new IAS for Assassins if they don't mind going Rt secondary.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weapon_of_Aggression
At 4 channeling it is 8 sec and at 7 it is 10 secs for a 25% IAS.
It also has a nice 1/4 sec casting time but it does have a 10en cost.
It looks to me that skill will be nerfed in the near future.
But anyway, I would not mind an elite IAS.