So I was looking at the new Eye of the North skills today, and am finding myself pretty unimpressed overall (not even close to the Nightfall skills when they first came out).
That said, Cure Hex is definitely one of the few that caught my eye.
Remove one Hex from target ally. If a Hex was removed, that ally is healed for 30...102 Health.
5, 1, 12 (Healing Prayers)
The energy cost and recharge are on par with the other hex removers, but this one gives you a nice unconditional heal on top of the hex being removed. On paper, this skill sounds freaking sweet.
The biggest problem with it, of course, is that it's stuck in Healing Prayers, which sucks for prot builds and hybrid builds with Gift of Health.
But I imagine LoD and Boon builds would jump all over this skill as a replacement for Holy Veil, at least for PVE and certain areas of PvP, am I right?
Hmmm....Cure Hex (new skill)
Grammar
Div
Yes, this is one of the skills that anet has added to try to promote healing prayers. You lose the ability to pre-veil someone, but you gain very nice healing, regardless of it's a healer or a hybrid bar. This'll definitely be superior to smite hex in NR team builds.
Stormlord Alex
Yeah, I'm thinking of chucking this on a LoD bar.
Healing Prayers as a whole doesn't seem attractive enough to run purely though, still.
Healing Prayers as a whole doesn't seem attractive enough to run purely though, still.
moko
should definately go into any PvE non gift bar, probably a nono everywhere in PvP, veil is too good, except for NR teams of course.
Grammar
UPDATE: Reverse Hex just got buffed.
Remove Hex: decreased casting time to 1 second; increased recharge time to 8 seconds.
So now it finally has a 1 second cast like the other hex removers, but the recharge is 4 seconds less. Veil probably still wins in PvP, but isn't this skill (along with Cure Hex in some builds) the new hex remover champion in PvE?
I mean, there isn't much pre-veiling going on in PVE, and 4 seconds can make a big difference against hex-heavy mobs.
Thoughts?
Remove Hex: decreased casting time to 1 second; increased recharge time to 8 seconds.
So now it finally has a 1 second cast like the other hex removers, but the recharge is 4 seconds less. Veil probably still wins in PvP, but isn't this skill (along with Cure Hex in some builds) the new hex remover champion in PvE?
I mean, there isn't much pre-veiling going on in PVE, and 4 seconds can make a big difference against hex-heavy mobs.
Thoughts?
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Grammar
I mean, there isn't much pre-veiling going on in PVE, and 4 seconds can make a big difference against hex-heavy mobs.
Coincidentally, the majority of PvE monks are bad.
Pre-veiling owns the shit out of stuff in PvE just as much as it does in PvP.
Pre-veiling owns the shit out of stuff in PvE just as much as it does in PvP.
olly123
it will beat smite to the top hex remove but yes like you said it will win in PVE but lose to veil in PVP cos of the pre veil part, but really thats all there is to it
Age
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Originally Posted by Grammar
Remove Hex: decreased casting time to 1 second; increased recharge time to 8 seconds.
So now it finally has a 1 second cast like the other hex removers, but the recharge is 4 seconds less. Veil probably still wins in PvP, but isn't this skill (along with Cure Hex in some builds) the new hex remover champion in PvE?
I mean, there isn't much pre-veiling going on in PVE, and 4 seconds can make a big difference against hex-heavy mobs.
Thoughts? What skill are you talking about here Reverse or Remove.I for the most part am a PvE Monk and I use Viel in tough areas although I hate hexes I prefer conditions.I can see cure hex being on a good heal/smite build with smite condition.
Grammar
Yes, Remove Hex, sorry for the mistake. 
moko
i'd run Cure Hex on LoD hybrid and Remove Hex on Hybrid Prot bars w/ Gift in PvE.
Pre-Veil is actually horrible in PvE, imo.
Pre-Veil is actually horrible in PvE, imo.
Grammar
Yeah, I don't pre-veil much in PvE either.
Still, I like Veil in PvE for its synergy with Dismiss Condition, on account of how often you'll have a teammate with both a hex and a condition on them (cast Veil -> cast Dismiss -> remove Veil).
I'm still debating if the 4-second-quicker recharge on Remove Hex is worth losing the above-mentioned combo.
Still, I like Veil in PvE for its synergy with Dismiss Condition, on account of how often you'll have a teammate with both a hex and a condition on them (cast Veil -> cast Dismiss -> remove Veil).
I'm still debating if the 4-second-quicker recharge on Remove Hex is worth losing the above-mentioned combo.
ShadowStorm
The only thing I pre-veil for in PvE is when I'm running a faction farm quest or rushing to another outpost in Tyria.
Melody Cross
PvE and PvP, I think this is going to be a regular hex removal. Making red bars go up is almost always a good effect and hexes have become as rampant as conditions in PvP play, only a little less overspammed in PvE, so you know you'll be getting the heal effect regularly.
But while I like this skill, I really can't wait to try Spotless Mind. The fire and forget aspect of that skill could make it rival veil for combating hex stacks and the cast time just screams "put me on the LoD infuse!!!" In PvE, SM will be equally powerful and provide a solid buff to power DKiss too.
GGs
But while I like this skill, I really can't wait to try Spotless Mind. The fire and forget aspect of that skill could make it rival veil for combating hex stacks and the cast time just screams "put me on the LoD infuse!!!" In PvE, SM will be equally powerful and provide a solid buff to power DKiss too.
GGs
Div
I can easily see this appearing on the LoD bar in PvP while the prot monk carries the veil (for pre-veiling purposes). In a PvE hybrid bar, this skill will still be pretty nice compared to remove hex depending on the attribute spread. That extra burst of healing with the ability to use it effectively with a 40/40 set makes it very juicy 
thor hammerbane
I loves it. Will be on my every single pve heal bar 
plasmasword
the hexing in some of the dungeons is so bad i put it on every one of my heroes
Age
The only place in PvE where Viel is or could be used is in running builds as I don't use it much.I prefer conditions to hexes.I would probably use divert in PvP hex heavy team.
lazuli
just need to point out that heal bonus with Cure Hex can't be augmented by Healer's Boon {e}; i'd certainly bring CH on a LoD build though.
(usually ignore hexes in pve, ele hero has extinguish, and got a prot monk to clean up the rest. if i really wanted hexes out of the equation, i'd use a healer hero and use mo/me Sig of Removal bonder)
(usually ignore hexes in pve, ele hero has extinguish, and got a prot monk to clean up the rest. if i really wanted hexes out of the equation, i'd use a healer hero and use mo/me Sig of Removal bonder)
azizul1975
i like this one better :
[skill]Blessed Light[/skill]
All in one.
[skill]Blessed Light[/skill]
All in one.
Dr Strangelove
For PvE, it's really between this and remove hex for the shorter recharge.
If you're speccing healing prayers without gift, there's no real reason not to bring it, as the 4 seconds of extra recharge isn't a huge problem in PvE anyway. Hex spamming enemies are few and far between, and the healing saves you a lot of energy.
Preveiling isn't so hot in PvE because you never have some jerk mesmer chasing you around with diversion or migraine. Even if you do get one of those on you, it's really easy to take a few steps back and remove it, no one will interrupt you, or just ignore it.
If you're speccing healing prayers without gift, there's no real reason not to bring it, as the 4 seconds of extra recharge isn't a huge problem in PvE anyway. Hex spamming enemies are few and far between, and the healing saves you a lot of energy.
Preveiling isn't so hot in PvE because you never have some jerk mesmer chasing you around with diversion or migraine. Even if you do get one of those on you, it's really easy to take a few steps back and remove it, no one will interrupt you, or just ignore it.
Giga Strike
i agree that its a great skill. its almost the hex removal skill that ive been waiting for. only problem with it is the speed, but even that isnt a "huge" problem.
zling
it's the first step into making Healing Prayers a useful attribute...
they healing prayer has its own hex removal, same as prot. all that's left is to buff the enchantments on healing prayers, mainly healing seed and hands but also the others, reducing recharge times come to mind for seed and hands and they'll be a decent match for a prot monk.
they healing prayer has its own hex removal, same as prot. all that's left is to buff the enchantments on healing prayers, mainly healing seed and hands but also the others, reducing recharge times come to mind for seed and hands and they'll be a decent match for a prot monk.
moko
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Originally Posted by zling
it's the first step into making Healing Prayers a useful attribute...
they healing prayer has its own hex removal, same as prot. prot only has elite hex removal that isn't actually so good. o.o (in PvE it owns for hex heavy areas tho
they healing prayer has its own hex removal, same as prot. prot only has elite hex removal that isn't actually so good. o.o (in PvE it owns for hex heavy areas tho
Toutatis
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Originally Posted by Mokone
prot only has elite hex removal that isn't actually so good
Prot has non-elite hex removal - Reverse Hex. Far from the best hex removal skill out there, but it looks like it would have a use somewhere.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Mokone
prot only has elite hex removal that isn't actually so good. o.o (in PvE it owns for hex heavy areas tho
Mokone forgot Reverse Hex. (Bah, I was beaten!)
It's fairly useful, most notably on SoR flagrunners where throwing off a hex immediately has importance (snares, shadow prison, etc).
In PvE... well I don't bring any hex removal usually, so I have no opinion there.
Mokone forgot Reverse Hex. (Bah, I was beaten!)It's fairly useful, most notably on SoR flagrunners where throwing off a hex immediately has importance (snares, shadow prison, etc).
In PvE... well I don't bring any hex removal usually, so I have no opinion there.
moko
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Originally Posted by Toutatis
Prot has non-elite hex removal - Reverse Hex. Far from the best hex removal skill out there, but it looks like it would have a use somewhere.
ow yes, i completely forgot. thanks!
and healing prayers are already viable..just not in full healing but hybrid builds (speaking LOD/Infuse)
thanks!and healing prayers are already viable..just not in full healing but hybrid builds (speaking LOD/Infuse)
Faure
In my PvE HB build this is a gift . You'll get a nice heal and remove a hex. I've never been a supporter of the smite hex, so remove hex or holy veil were my hex removers. Now with 0.5s cast time (boon) this definately will be my main hexremover.
. You'll get a nice heal and remove a hex. I've never been a supporter of the smite hex, so remove hex or holy veil were my hex removers. Now with 0.5s cast time (boon) this definately will be my main hexremover.
Age
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Originally Posted by Toutatis
Prot has non-elite hex removal - Reverse Hex. Far from the best hex removal skill out there, but it looks like it would have a use somewhere.
The only problem with this is it is at 10 energy as compared to 5energy for cure hex.They both heal to.