Character Edit

X Salvation X

X Salvation X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Seaside Heights, New Jersey, US

The Marble Clan [KING]

N/Me

Could be old news, but last time I checked on guru, people were still taking guesses and I just wanted to make sure. But I was watching this video and heard the narrator:
"Eye of the North gives the chance for players to change the looks and appearence of their existing characters." (At 1:16) From the looks of it, you get to see a preview of the armor as well for a few professions.

Here's the video
http://www.gamespot.com/video/938739...walk-through-1

Also, it mentions that you don't need to own Night Fall for the heroes in GW:EN.

samanoskeake

samanoskeake

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

Kansas City, Missouri

Avenged Sixfold [BAND]

E/Mo

Ahhh that's sweet.
It took me forever to figure out that heroes were Nightfall only, then I got nightfall, and I wanted heroes with my proph char and I had to go through hell lol
but that was so long ago!

That's really cool though.
Any news on any asura heroes?

mazik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by samanoskeake
That's really cool though.
Any news on any asura heroes? ...did you watch the video at all? He shows you a Charr, Norn and Asura hero.

X Salvation X

X Salvation X

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Seaside Heights, New Jersey, US

The Marble Clan [KING]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by samanoskeake
Any news on any asura heroes? Yes, shortly in it shows all four.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Salvation X
Could be old news, but last time I checked on guru, people were still taking guesses and I just wanted to make sure. But I was watching this video and heard the narrator:
"Eye of the North gives the chance for players to change the looks and appearence of their existing characters." (At 1:16) From the looks of it, you get to see a preview of the armor as well for a few professions. Based on the information from the video, it seems like he was talking about the armour, not changing your actual character appearance.

We can still be hopeful, though!

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Yea I wouldn't hold my breath about "customizing" our actual physcial appearance besides with armor. Check the Hair Stylist thread in this forum section for more details.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

If we really would be able to change the appearance of our existing characters, it would've been pimped all over the GW:EN features lists as marketing. Keep that in mind.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

I agree, Elisa.

Monkness

Monkness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Houston, TX

Green Jello [NOX]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
If we really would be able to change the appearance of our existing characters, it would've been pimped all over the GW:EN features lists as marketing. Keep that in mind. Not necessarily. It could be one of the "surprises" they keep hinting at. Especially with something like that, I think it could be a possibility, even without it being "pimped" or leaked.

aaje vhanli

aaje vhanli

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Well, either to keep it a surprise or to utilize it to promote GW:EN could both work well for aNet. It would make more sense to me to promote GW:EN with it; but perhaps they are less concerned about promotion and excited to surprise players with the option.

Either way, we can always be hopeful.

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

well given that the new WoW exp. will have an option to edit characters, and that this is one of the most wanted features by gw players, I think its almost certain that they will implement it

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
well given that the new WoW exp. will have an option to edit characters, and that this is one of the most wanted features by gw players, I think its almost certain that they will implement it I wanna hope on this too but i dont wanna get let down BUT in the gaile section she never said it wasnt coming but she did say stuff like no storage expansions and char slots for sure.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gaile/Frog_Talk

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
well given that the new WoW exp. will have an option to edit characters, and that this is one of the most wanted features by gw players, I think its almost certain that they will implement it WOW HAS IT

PEOPLE WANT IT

ANET PROGRAMMERS STATED THAT THE WAY THE DATA BASE IS SET UP THINGS CANT BE CHANGED AFTER CREATION

SO YES WE WILL HAVE IT............WHEN PIGS FLY

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
WOW HAS IT

PEOPLE WANT IT

ANET PROGRAMMERS STATED THAT THE WAY THE DATA BASE IS SET UP THINGS CANT BE CHANGED AFTER CREATION

SO YES WE WILL HAVE IT............WHEN PIGS FLY O RLY!!!!!! SHOUT!111!!

Where have they stated this?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE] Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_uk

Where have they stated this? search is not working for me.

many times from long ago change threads Gaile has stated that for security the charactrs are locked to prevent exploits or malicious changes.

you cannot restore items/change an account/ spoof an account /restore a hacked account/ etc. according to what the programmrs told Gaile who passed it to us

that includes appearance which would make the grandaddy of gold sinls if they could

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Where, exactly, in that mess of logical info does it hint at anything about appearance?

OMG! Last April Fools Day Anet haxxored my account!

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Loviatar, simply because their systems have been designed in such a manner does not mean there is a work around unavailable.

It might (or is mostly likely to) be highly complex and not worth their time, but a work around somewhat similar to what I suspect they did with the April 1 fun might be possible.

For those who say April 1 was simple, keep in mind that it was a global application - specification for individual players makes the problem much more complex.

Of course as I've stated in every other thread, I've only conjecture as to how their systems operate, I don't know for certain.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE] Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Loviatar, simply because their systems have been designed in such a manner does not mean there is a work around unavailable. indeed there is.

the best and only example is the ability to change an offensive name

however this is a static text *mask* which is desplayed to the players as the account has not been changed.

anything customized after the *change* still shows cusomized by the original unchanged offensive name which people cant see.

so the account is unaltered

they stated that appearance is many orders of magnitude harder and animated is magnitudes harder than that.

names are chaged few and far between and a ton of people would want this.

i just dont see them pulling people off GWEN/GW2 to handle this

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

[QUOTE=Loviatar] Quote:

indeed there is.

the best and only example is the ability to change an offensive name

however this is a static text *mask* which is desplayed to the players as the account has not been changed.

anything customized after the *change* still shows cusomized by the original unchanged offensive name which people cant see.

so the account is unaltered

they stated that appearance is many orders of magnitude harder and animated is magnitudes harder than that.

names are chaged few and far between and a ton of people would want this.

i just dont see them pulling people off GWEN/GW2 to handle this Loviatar, you and I are actually on exactly the same page. I'm not talking about changing the database. That will not change. I don't seen Anet breaking their own system to change it.

As I said, I've no idea how hard it would be to introduce a "cover" texture for lack of a better term, in order to apply the changes that players want. I DO understand that it is MUCH more complicated than people seem to think it is, which is something I've been trying to get those who cry - "oh but we had the changes on April 1" to see.

My experience has been working with nice and simple databases, mostly which contain nothing more than text and numbers. I understand the difficulty and complications in the programming to add a "mask" to the data pulled from those tables, furthermore I understand the problems that may occur if a database-type "mask" would need to be added - which is effectively what they'd be looking at for appearance changes.

As a global change, the April 1st changes could be accomplished by a single file, maybe even a single line of code, but individual character changes would be much, much more than that.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Character Templates where a surprise before the game release.
The Realm of Anguish was a surprise after the game release.

So everything is possible.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Well.I heard it and there is a certain button at the bottom of the char. selection screen.If I hard right considering the sound wasn't that great you possibly can change your primary profession as well.

LobsterMobster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

SBD

N/Me

Where'd you hear that?

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Well.I heard it and there is a certain button at the bottom of the char. selection screen.If I hard right considering the sound wasn't that great you possibly can change your primary profession as well. I really, really doubt this.

Source?

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

Anything you've seen up to this point has been on a development server which has open hacks/cheats/skin modifiers for testing purposes. It's very possible that there is such a button on the dev server/client to quicken the ability to test each profession/skin/armor/weapon/etc. This may also include instant spawning of objects, badguys, weapons, materials and so on. Making it easier to test those as well. On the live version, all that is removed leaving little room for any such hack to take place.

Plain and simple the database for the live server, including the source code varies quite a bit from the release client, this is also true for the world server, chat and so on. There wouldn't be as many built-in limitations on a development server, nor would the database be tied up in account information beyond login/password confirmation.

In many database secure systems, appearance modifying means the design has to be there to provide the checks on authenticity of those changes and sync them with the servers. It's quite possible there is a great deal of coding that must be done for even simple appearance changes to happen legit and could also require some decent sized changes to the database structure, which could cause problems with data loss on an account basis.

Many times changes players request just aren't ones that are worth the time and dangers (of data loss). the more open the system design, the easier it is to spoof or hack.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by LobsterMobster
Where'd you hear that? I heard it from the person speaking.

Dervish Kid

Dervish Kid

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Florida

D/

There should be character edit for all gw games imo

Pey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

United Spanish Buddies

W/E

Yeah... i wanna change the sex of my Sin, i like the Vabbian Armor, but the male one is nicer the female