Back to the old Favor

Everyone has noticed the new favor changes in Guild Wars. I, for one, hate these changes.

If you have not noticed these changes then please visit the official guildwars page to find out.

Due to the changes, I am suspecting that the favor will be recieved very slowly. in the beginning it will come very quickly, as people are rushing their titles to get favor, but it will eventually slow down.

If you are with me and my cause, please post that you would like favor to return to the way it was.

I will Edit this post and put down who votes for a change, and who wants it to stay the way it is (I havent seen any poll options on these forums so im guessing there is no option to do it).




Also moderators, if this is in the wrong forum area, please move it as you see fit. i jsut figured this would be the best area for it to be placed

it is pretty retarded as some of my chars already have max titles... like survivor

well buy more UW and FOW scrolls >_>

HISSSSSSSS
CHANGESSSS WE HATESSSSS THEM
OLD WAYSSSSS! OLD WAYSSS ARE BESSSSST


cmon. How long has this change been up? Like 2 hours? Give it a chance at least.

2 hours? isn't it about an hour... and in all honesty, thats an hour too long. Anyone can tell this change is absolutely retarded.

Am I mistaken or has the change not even been implemented yet?

How can people hate something which they have not even seen or experienced?

Why are people on this board so negative?

Really people, are you smarter than Anet? Do you have inside information on how often a title is achieved? I really want to know how people are so all-knowing that they can hate on things before they come to pass.

yes go get all max titles now!

whats that cant get a ha group? oh well no 10000000000000 fame max title for you -.-

I really don't understand what you are trying to say. Flaming me perhaps? I don't know, but I will tell this:

I have never tried to get into a HA group. I already have almost all the max PvE titles I care to get. I PvE. I may PvP in the future if the PvP scene isn't full of little smart ass turds who really don't want to encourage new players, as that would provide more competition to them. I understand that people do want to win in PvP. There needs to be more middle ground there. Are you one of the helpful ones trying to make the PvP community grow?

I'm thrilled that favor isn't tied to PvP anymore. I have grown tired of staying up till past 1am local time just to get into UW and FOW. Perhaps you are on the West coast and haven't considered just how ridiculous it is for East coast US players to get favor time. I don't even want to hear about scrolls. When one drops for me then I will use it but that's a different bitch.

uhm gg anet this is probably worse than the loot scaling. you guys really dont want people to play do you?

Umm thats what these things called UW and FOW passage scrolls are for. If you only pve it shouldn't be hard to get them at all.

The post was ment to be sarcastic but not a flame towards you. I'm sure a pver understands that getting "Max" titles isnt something every player does. Most casual players don't bother going for those top tier titles. Hell I don't even care for over lightbringer 2 -.-

Wow. Um... actually, I don't hate these changes as much as some, and it's definitely a step toward ending the so-called PvP tyranny. However, please take survivor off the list. We have enough problems with quitters without more people feeling the need to do whatever it takes to max the title.

It's an inelegant reworking of the favor system, but hard to call it stupid considering how colossally stupid the old system was.

dunno lol

-Jessyi

i had no problem with the old system. by the time US was getting favor i was just waking up.

Well I did say that I will use them when I get them.

Thank you

I generally agree. However now that I have done almost everything else in the game (until the expansion gets here) titles are what I am working on mostly. Just this past week I got my Legendary Cartographer. I do feel a little like it was wasted now that it won't help that tiny little bit with favor, and I'm only playing one char, no way I'm going to get that title again.

The only problem I see is the statues.

Well, ok. Now entrece to FoW and UW is a bit more limited, scrolls increase price ans such, but...

On top of that they cost some cash, statues top being usable.

So I'll add a change for them:
- Make them always active. But taking money.
- Make them free with favor.

And, of course, add scroll traders to each Temple.

I don't want to see the statues destroyed aaaaalll the time. I hate them like that.

But for Dwyana's sake, keep them active in explorables and outposts, or I will be never able to get Dwayna's quests!

Give it a chance huh? but if favor it's already down here in europe, surely players aren't gonna wait for 20 ppl to get their teeny weeny titles to do FoW, they'll just grab a scroll and go. This was a bad idea since the beginning.

NO! I like the new system.

Currenlty is working.

We'll see if it will be enough until GW2 (or even after)

/sign...
these changes are horrid to the full of their strength... but then again, it is just anet nerfing everything again... SHIELD OF REGEN :*( :*( :*(

Going back to the old system would be stupid because the problem was that PvEers relied on PvPers for the favor and half the time europe had favor until 3am est. I'm sorry but the old system was more flawed than the new one.

Dont like the system? OK lets change it back then for you Europeans, someone go tell Japan and Taiwan they wont be getting favor anymore.

Seriously, if thats not enough of an indicator that the old system was broken, what is?

New system isnt that great, but it beats the old one by a mile. I dont know any HA guilds that HA specifically for the purpose of getting favor for their district. We all do it for fame and/or fun, but almost nobody in those guilds cared about favor in the slightest.

At least now favor is based off of something that PvE'rs have something to do with. Old system made no sense at all. Plus it was drastically unfair to anyone not living in America or Europe. Anywhere else hardly every got favor.

I don't see an issue with it, I mean...we practically have favor all the time, and it's not just anyone, I mean shit, I think it's a step into unifying the territories into doing things, and GASP, international districts have more of a purpose, it's a step in the right direction, but many flaws. Max titles? No, I can understand a few of the titles that people max, and when it first came out, I thought we would NEVER have favor, but look at it this way, if you don't like the favor changes, then don't do UW or FoW, I mean seriously, there are other farming places out there, and if it is all you do, watch the time, I know down here on the East Coast it's usually favor after 11PM EST through about 9-12PM EST, so it's not like no one will pop on in-between those hours & do some FoW or UW.



~Insanctified

i do agree with all the people that have been saying heroes ascent should have had no bearing on entrance to UW/FoW to begin with. and really, it should not have. i have kinda been waiting for the day that the message read "xyz [xyz] has won a battle in the hall of heroes." without there being strict divisions and gradual hatred for the other regions that occupy the game. i like to see that europe and america are not against each other in favor battles all day long, but in the battle together getting favor for each other. and the same for taiwan and japan, who practically never had the chance europe and america had at getting into UW/FoW. they had to join other servers if that is what they wanted to do all day...and not represent their own region :/

this might be a stretch, but if favor starts becoming a problem, where the titles are "drying up"---or people are in a position where it will be forever till the max title, try adjusting it where if people get the next best title within the title track they are working on. for instance~~display 'x person has reached tyrian explorer and counts as an achievement towards favor of the Gods.' and when they reach tyrian pathfinder, have that also count towards favor. of course, it makes more sense that maxing a title towards favor is an extraordinary achievement---but reaching towards the max title is also an incentive to increase chance of getting favor. maybe the lesser titles can count towards less minutes, and the actual max titles can count for an extremely larger amount of minutes. and perhaps more frequent chance of better drops in UW/FoW when someone has maxed a title :P it is a win-win reward system, with much winning!

but these are just a few suggestions. my mind is always at work

this new system isnt perfect but it's still far more better than the old crappy one ...

favor based on silly pvp results .. ya SURE -.-'
and let's base chest drops on beer we drink while we're at it...

favor->pve->obvious

i dunno if showing the igns of ppl maxing titles is a good idea, though
all we need now is an option to toggle the display of those HoH msgs, now, for those who dont care about pvp.

Its when, not if. Sure I think that it will be quite some time before the titles start drying up, but that time will come eventually. Its probably not worth worrying about yet though. Personally I think that ANET's response will be at first to lengthen the time that each title achievement gives.

I personally like the new way, we seem to constantly have favor.. "213 minutes of favor of the gods remaining". A UW Run for farming takes about 45 minutes, so I think 4-5 runs =) Sweet. Whats wrong with always having favor? I'm sure those of you who win HoH are pissed, cause your wins are practically worthless now, sorries about that.

Whats great about this is now you can actually "buy" favor. Make a guild with 20+ people in it and have them all work on survivor titles, or a protector title.. and then when ever you want, have everyone max out their titles, and within a few minutes, 1 hr of favor =D

Well finally....a step in the right direction. I agree with all of you, favor had no business being decided by HA wins, and if that bothers the guys in HA....tough. They spend all their time crying about the state of PvP, so why should they care if something PvE is based on something PvE. And so what, if max titles dry up with all the millions of people out there playing multiple characters and accounts, you always have UW/FoW scrolls.

BOO HISS I like the NEW! favor a lot better why? Because its easier to find parties, and more people going for titles = better to find groups there. And why would you be against it favor all the time makes vanquishing a lot easier. Too bad I allready got all the areas done before this new system - Majesty's Rest.