HM Hulking Stone Elementals (Sardelac Sanitarium) – Ele/Mo

Forever Darkeyes

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Well i decided to farm there a little in about 1 hr ive made about 15k + a few tomes and lockpicks so id say its still good to farm

Lima

Lima

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Notts

W/

are people using e/mo to farm this area?

Forever Darkeyes

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Ive been using the VWK build for my warrior and its been working fine

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

this works with the classic SoJ 55 build too. it is really annoying how they run away from you though.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Ok I was going to post in this thread I think ages ago with 2 different monk builds,

This will be just a short reply if people are interested I'll post a full reply later.

The first build is a SoJ 55, try using a scythe to keep atleast 3 attackers. If your lazy and don't wanna wait take a mes secondary and echo SoJ.

The second is a IW 55 monk, slower I think or it could just be the constant attacking. Use a scythe again but only because its mass attack targeting 3 instead of 1. like the old UW IW monk, its works ok, and negates the AOE, which can effect your drops from what people believe.

If anyone is interested I could possible post a full guide.

Wol Fenrook

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

UK

The Dim Circle Ring [DCR]

E/

I switched from using the OPs build to using a sliver armor based E/Me build. The OPs build works, but due to the nature of DoTAoE the drops per a group are not so good. With a sliver build you it takes a bit longer, but you get a LOT more drops, which makes the extra time worthwhile.

Wol

Mister Mentalist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

so a55 monk works here ok im off to try that for a hour or 2 after i get my ele to desolation thanks

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Mentalist
so a55 monk works here ok im off to try that for a hour or 2 after i get my ele to desolation thanks after 55'ing this run for a week... i discovered a few things:

- you can only kill the Ele boss. the War boss's healing signet out heals the damage done by SoJ

- you can tank A LOT of the stones with no problem at all, just make sure to always have healing breeze for 4+ enemies

- the run takes quite awhile. For a group of 9 stones, you may use SoJ about 4 times. When you have about 15 stones, you'll use it about 6. After killing all the stones then going after the Ele boss, it will take about 4 SoJ's to get the rest of his health down.

I've gotten some good drops though. I'd rather just do a 2-3 minute run and get less drops than take 15 minutes to run with a 55 and get a fair amount of drops.

Darkstar The Legend

Darkstar The Legend

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Boat Crew [boat]

W/

I've been doing this run with a 55/SV and it works great.

it takes about 10 seconds to kill each elemental and the ele boss, the warrior boss maybe takes about 20-30 seconds depending on the timings of endure pain and heal sig.

Mister Mentalist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

why dont you use the mesmer spell mantra of earth ?

tidussoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

the ultra easy mist farm works here if you time it right i can kill both bosses with it no grawls and also take armor of mist to run there

AntJAB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

So I've been farming these damn Hulks for a few hours with my own build (Since I only have Prophs on this account) and I haven't gotten a single worth while drop.

I've killed a few hundred Hulks and about 50 bosses.

I've gotten the rare gold that might sell for 1kish. Other than that it's been pretty dry. No tomes, no good golds.

I'm being nubbish here and doing something wrong or have I just had some terrible luck for the past few hours?

I'm in hardmode, the runs are fast and I repeat frequently. I've been getting lucky on bosses and drop two a run easily. Just getting really frustrated.

Jalis Adan

Jalis Adan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Protecters of Kryta

W/Mo

I like the build its good for eles. But for Warriors like me I bring Glads defense and both ripos and For great justice and the rocks tumble.

Arnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

How do you guys get so much stuff here? I farmed here for about 30 minutes and only got about 1k and 10 things.

Ares Ainia

Ares Ainia

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Edinbugger, Scotland

New Order Of Blackhearts [NooB]

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnack
How do you guys get so much stuff here? I farmed here for about 30 minutes and only got about 1k and 10 things. HM on?

12chars

Kurt

Kurt

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Belgium

N/

I farmed them with a 55 SS build on my necro and the drops aint bad. And they're easy to kill, even the bosses.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by AntJAB
So I've been farming these damn Hulks for a few hours with my own build (Since I only have Prophs on this account) and I haven't gotten a single worth while drop.
Depends on your definition of "worthwhile drops" - this run is similar to troll or vermin farming. That is, steady merchant fodder that is quick and easy - not farming for rare drops to sale on the player market (other than elite tomes from the two bosses).

Quote: I've gotten the rare gold that might sell for 1kish. Other than that it's been pretty dry. No tomes, no good golds. Tomes is just luck - I get them fairly regularly and there is no trick there, sometimes I go A LONG time without any too. I don't know of any "good golds" the drop there from your definition. There may be some *really* rare ones but I wouldn't hold my breath. If you mean elite tomes - well they aren't terribly common anyway, I don;t get very many of them.

Quote:
I'm in hardmode, the runs are fast and I repeat frequently. I've been getting lucky on bosses and drop two a run easily. Just getting really frustrated. Welcome to GW farming - you either farm one of the VERY few "elite" areas and play the market or you make a steady 6-10k an hour on merchant fodder in HM. On the bright side Merchant fodder farming is more profitable than before, on the negative side farming for high gold items is WAY worse than before.

Hulking stone elementals are in the 6-8k per hour range but tend to be VERY steady in that range - there is good and bad about that. It is an easy run, I do it while watching TV or if I have a few minutes left over to play at the end of a gaming session and nothing better to do. Basically, as I said, it replaces a troll or vermin run before loot scaling was introduced - no spikes in GPH, but then no real dips either. Plus it is a different run (compared to the normal low HP prot spirit characters I normally farm with) and relieves some boredom while farming.

Darkstar The Legend

Darkstar The Legend

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Boat Crew [boat]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
Welcome to GW farming - you either farm one of the VERY few "elite" areas and play the market or you make a steady 6-10k an hour on merchant fodder in HM. On the bright side Merchant fodder farming is more profitable than before, on the negative side farming for high gold items is WAY worse than before.
How can you say merchant fodder farming is MORE profitable now? To the best of my knowledge the best merchant fodder runs give maybe 8-10k per hour.

Before loot scaling was added there were merchant fodder runs that could generate about 15-18k per hour.

In_Flames

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rexion
after 55'ing this run for a week... i discovered a few things:

- you can only kill the Ele boss. the War boss's healing signet out heals the damage done by SoJ

- you can tank A LOT of the stones with no problem at all, just make sure to always have healing breeze for 4+ enemies

- the run takes quite awhile. For a group of 9 stones, you may use SoJ about 4 times. When you have about 15 stones, you'll use it about 6. After killing all the stones then going after the Ele boss, it will take about 4 SoJ's to get the rest of his health down.

I've gotten some good drops though. I'd rather just do a 2-3 minute run and get less drops than take 15 minutes to run with a 55 and get a fair amount of drops. I run the SS 55 monk and I kill the Warrior boss with ease. Just take a group of 2-3 other Hulkings and ss them along with the boss. I also carry Insidious Parasite on me tho.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

heh, typically on a 55 bar you have an extra spot that you used to use for mending and HB, now using Mystic Regen, you could take somethign like Scourge Healing, or even something with higher damage like judges intervention/signet of mystic wrath.

Arnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

In 15 minutes I got 4k. I would think there is better ways to farm, is there not? I have every single character type so does anyone know some straight farming that can rack up some cash (more than 4k per 15~20 mins)

Skinny Corpse

Skinny Corpse

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Company of Corpses [CoC]

This run is a nice change of pace from the necro farm.. quite fun.
The drops are like anywhere in HM, really.. some golds, some elite tomes and
loads of Granite Slabs.. good for crafting consumables or selling.. pays pretty
good at trader.
A nice quick run indeed.
Thanks, OP!

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstar The Legend
Before loot scaling was added there were merchant fodder runs that could generate about 15-18k per hour. Where was that? That's one heck of a drop rate at the prices the merchant gives you. Vermin were probably one of the better merch fodder runs and it wasn't anywhere close to that (even with the occasional higher value trader drop).

There are still places that average around that, but like back then they weren't merchant fodder but depended on good drops for the rare material or rune *trader* - not merchant fodder. They only work in that range over fairly long period of time - many runs can even loose money (for instance UW runs).

I wouldn't doubt that they existed - I'm sure some people kept them to their selves (just as I would believe they currently exist for the same reason) - however a widely known merchant fodder farming area at 15-18k per hour? You must have been WAY faster than everyone else to get that or you decided not to count things like time IDing/selling, getting there, and other things that make up a full run. While many figured their GPH that way it is *highly* inaccurate to do so.

Darkstar The Legend

Darkstar The Legend

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Boat Crew [boat]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
Where was that? That's one heck of a drop rate at the prices the merchant gives you. Vermin were probably one of the better merch fodder runs and it wasn't anywhere close to that (even with the occasional higher value trader drop).
That was farming the kirin in pongmei valley using a mass agro warrior build, each run took about 4 mins (including zoning and selling), and each run would net about 1k.

AntJAB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
Hulking stone elementals are in the 6-8k per hour range but tend to be VERY steady in that range - there is good and bad about that. It is an easy run, I do it while watching TV or if I have a few minutes left over to play at the end of a gaming session and nothing better to do. Basically, as I said, it replaces a troll or vermin run before loot scaling was introduced - no spikes in GPH, but then no real dips either. That's my problem then, I've been getting minimal drops period. Over the past few hours I'm looking at 1-3kph merchant fodder. Factor in any salvageable mods, golds, or tomes, and maybe 2-4kps on the high.

I watch videos and such of this farming and I see people get steady drops of a few stones, slabs, and merchant trash per group. I'm lucky when I get more than 1 piece of rock. The average group drops 1-2 items.

I guess these hulks just don't like me.

Joshthor

Joshthor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Eternal Knights Alliance [RotK]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AntJAB
That's my problem then, I've been getting minimal drops period. Over the past few hours I'm looking at 1-3kph merchant fodder. Factor in any salvageable mods, golds, or tomes, and maybe 2-4kps on the high.

I watch videos and such of this farming and I see people get steady drops of a few stones, slabs, and merchant trash per group. I'm lucky when I get more than 1 piece of rock. The average group drops 1-2 items.

I guess these hulks just don't like me. i guess they dont, i do this run alot, it takes me about 5-6 min per run and i get an average of 500g a run, ive gotten probably 30 or 40 golds so far, 3 uw scrolls 1 saph, countless rocks of all types and about 15 tomes. this is off probably 6 hours total of doing this. it got me my 'lite luxon armor

micosay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

I have been farming these hulks with sliver armor in Old Ascalon and Pockmark Flats for several months now. I get stacks of granite, decent golds, but never any sapphires or rubies - can anyone confirm that they still drop these gems?

or am I just unlucky?

Thanks!

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

I've gotten one ruby and one sapphire in the last couple of months, so they still drop. This is probably the most profitable run I can do right now, given the current high sale price of granite, so any jewels are a really just a bonus. And I craft a lot of Deldrimor Steel, so the charcoal comes in very handy. I use Shockwave and Tenai's Crystals in addition to Sliver Armor to speed up the run a bit.

I was farming Fire Imps outside LA in NM the other day to get Glowing Hearts, and one dropped a ruby. That was quite a surprise to me, so they might be worth trying in HM if jewels are what you need.

roxy rub rub

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

GWAM

D/Mo

Actually, I always get good drops here. I either use 55/SS, Ele SH, 130 derv, or TC wammo or VwK builds. I don't really SoJ anywhere other than undead, its soooo slow compared to spamming SS.

Ofcause I use varitions. a few days ago I got elite tomes from both bosses in one run and a few goldss a black, Lockpick, granite and plenty of ToT

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

I use sanstorm and grasping earth and earthquake 14 earth 13 energy storage and some other skills

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

I got a Sapph drop 3 nights ago. Confirmed.

I run this with a 55 SV Necro:

Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Spoil Victor [Elite]
Vampiric Gaze
[optional]
Essence Bond
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

Blood Magic: 16
Protection Prayers: 8
Healing Prayers: 8
Soul Reaping: whatever is left+3 (I'll edit this when I get home and can check; @ work)

A run from Ascalon City to Sardelac Sanitarium takes 10 minutes, give or take some time for lag or if you get a Grawl Spawn. If you get a Grawl Spawn, continue behind Sardelac to get more Hulking Stone Ele's, but be careful of Devourer and Crown of Thorns pop-ups. More than 2 of these type of mobs can ruin your day.

My average per run is between 900g - 1.5k in merch drops. This doesn't include crafting materials (Chitin, Granite Slabs, Sapphires, Rubies), Gold items, Tomes, or Picks. Don't waste your time with Locked Chests, the skins aren't in demand, Picks are better used elsewhere for more profit, and depending on the run, you can net up to 7 Gold items from drops.

The Silenced Spets

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2008

U.S

[TS]

E/Rt

This is actually a very good farm. I use a Sliver Armour/Crystal Wave build though. That I think is best if you do not have the extra attribute points like me :P

Omega Precept

Omega Precept

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

San Francisco, CA

Graduates of Berkeley

E/

Thank you for the farming run kind sir, I have been averaging 16-18k/hour!

~Cheers

TempestBrewer

TempestBrewer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Looking.

Mo/E

Thanks for this build! I've been wanting a good place to farm for granite to start collecting for my destroyer weapons. Only a few hours in and I've gotten a stack and a half of granite, a ruby, several golds and tons of tomes.

Every once in awhile the grawl are attacking my poor stone eles when I exit sardelac, but this is a pretty simple, good farm. Thanks again

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mind if I give this a much deserved bump for people who want to learn how to do it?

I started it again to get sapphires and rubies for Vabbi armor for my HoM. I've done 3 runs so far and already got 1 sapphire and a black dye.

Another thing that is now great about this run is that you get LOTS of Granite slabs from the elementals. They drop piles of them occasionally (as well as charcoal), and the many scorched lodestones that they drop salvage into granite as well, which you can use for destroyer weapons.

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

Mo/

I've been doing this with a defy pain warrior lately, scythe is fastest but killing them 1 by one with a conjure axe gives you loads more granite.
Everyone needs granite atm for their destroyer weapons, 10k per stack iirc.

ilr

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2010

[Abandoned acct]

Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe View Post
I've been doing this with a defy pain warrior lately, scythe is fastest but killing them 1 by one with a conjure axe gives you loads more granite.
Everyone needs granite atm for their destroyer weapons, 10k per stack iirc. You're sure you really tested this thoroughly? ...I use the same DP build too and yeah... I notice a lot of time when 3 or more of them die at the same time from scything, it seems like there's less drops. But I don't wanna 1-at-a-time them unless there's some empirical evidence behind it...

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

The time between kills does make a difference.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/d...tml?t=10329475

If that doesn't satisfy you, you could always record how much money and time taken for each type of run and see which is better for you. More drops may not necessarily justify the extra time taken.