Fat Characters

Unhealthy?

GuildWars characters are running all over he place all the time.

Even if someone has 'thick bones', he will never be fat doing that, she will be more like... male warriors.

On top of that, less models means faster loading.

So you dont want


And youd rather have this as the new female elementalist look huh?



That is really not what i paid out for in GW. sorry....but its just ...wrong on a lot of levels

I can just see it now...

Hang on ...Cough cough , im a little puff puff ...out of breath......
ooo look food...mmmmm burgers

What, next we ask for a MacDonalds at every outpost
Nahh not for me thanks. I like my characters the way they are.

If you want a fat character, why not mod your character to a fat person?
Could work, take time but it could work couldn't it?

Im not a graphics modder but i dont think it works like that. If im right in thinking they wrap textures round the body meshes. Therefore its the same as making a black bear into a polar bear...same size different look.
But i may be wrong

I think a couple people here don't understand the difference between fat and muscular. Male Mesmers aren't chubby, although I will admit they do run kinda funny like a fat person might. Male Warriors are big because they are muscular. Stefan the henchman however, is a little more on the chubby side than other warriors in the game.

The new look of assassins everywhere.

I just think warriors are NFL line-backers/Line-men/HB/FB/QB body type. They are all big, but thats because of muscles.

Having fat characters will defintely not be good as it reinforces the sterotypes that gamers are unathletic fat nerds, even though there is a segment of gamers who CLEARLY dont fit that that mold.

Let Anet decide when to put out more "huggable" heroes.

/nty.

i almost died seeing that >.>

We can't have fat people on gw. People play it because they want fiction this would show the reality.

Exactly!

This is a fantasy game is it not?

What the hell would I want to go round seeing myself in armour for? I'm a fat old git and to be honest, I'm quite taken with the fantasy in my head of a muscular monster like my warrior going round killing things.
I really dont like the idea of seeing a fat, wallowing blob like me running around in very tight armour!...no thanks!
Its hard enough looking in the mirror let alone watching it in a fantasy game. You dont see any of the fantasy characters in films like Conan and LoTR running around overweight and puffing their lungs on the floor...
And as for the "friar Tuck"anologies, If im not mistaken he used to ride around in a horse and cart a lot!...Cant see the need for it in GW

The warriors or mesmers arnt fat...

the mesmers natural stance has his gut out stretched and the warriors are kind of a mix of stocky and out built (expanding the muscle outward while building) but no where near fat.

Though I agree that everyone looks like they got picked out of a Abercombi and Finch agency.

All these characters do is run? At what point are they meant to be ABLE to get fat???


The body types are realistic to the type of exercise all these characters do.

If only REAL people could take this example and actually look after their bodies then maybe RL wouldn't have so many goddamn overweight people. Seriously, if there's an obesity problem in the world, why would we want to support it by allowing overweight characters in our computer games? That's certainly sending out a message to all those 13yo's saying 'seriously guys, look at all the cool stuff you can do if you're a fat RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO!'

No way. Sorry. It's a terrible idea.

This is why you'll never be able to create a fat character. The one constant in guildwars besides death....Running!! All GW characters RUN everywhere, therefore are in excellent shape all the time. Even in cities, going from storage to Merchant...running. Running = no fat characters...sorry :P

They better add fattnes in GW2 cause i want BIG FAT NORN !!!

I'm sure they'll make certain races to be fat...but I don't want the females of the human-like races to be fat or I'm not playing! (I prefer fiction to my entire city)

No, they aren't:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Norgu
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Stefan
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Little_Thom

Not at all, XD...

One thing is plumpy, other thing is obese.
Characters could be like Norgu or Little Thom, but not like... eh... that previously seen ninja...

I mean, as long as it's health-looking, it should work.

little thom is a fat warrior. so's stefan

wait a minute, to be fair, they don't really run as much as jog. and at that, they aren't reallly jogging that far. how long does it take to jog from ascalon to sardelac, 2.5 mins? how far is that in real distance? if an average human can jog at around 2 miles an hour or so, than that puts the distance at around 450 feet, right? i mean, our game isn't played on continents so much as large islands, really.

and the fat epidemic isn't relegated soley to America... geeze

ok, so this is a fantasy game, well, lets look there some too. Tolkien invented modern fantasy, i think we can all agree on that. didn't the Fellowship of the Ring run for days without stopping, that group including an overweight Dwarf and 3 Hobbits. who is to say that fantasy precludes obese fitness. anyway, Clinton used to jog several miles a day, and he was pretty chubby then.

what i was getting at is that horizontal proportions should be selectable as much as vertical is during character design. i think the diversity would be great.

stereotype - schmereotype.... you know, stereotypes exist for a reason... but, i disagree that it reinforces any stereotypes. i am 37, 6'0", 180, and not obese. i carry about 12% body fat. my calorie output is 3000+ daily or so, and my input is close to that, allowing me to maintain my physical stature.
that being said, who cares? i mean, most of the female characters are played by males, right? isn't that reinforcing a stereotype of sorts; one in which young men like to look at scantily clad young women? we could second guess the psychology of gamers all day and hit or miss all day too. so its irrelevant to this topic.

if anything, not being able to create rotund characters is a form of elitism that has existed in the comic book world since the late '70s. (the original Captain America had a paunch, so did Shazam, they were prior to the 1970's)


i really didn't intend for this discussion to get quite so serious, btw. my apologies. i just thought it would be fun to play a overweight Hammer Warrior.

I dunno, I wouldn't be up for morbidly obese lumps like people are posting examples of in this thread, but being able to adjust size as you do height would be great, even if the changes are subtle. My main RP character is on the cuddly side, and the best I could do was make her a ranger so she'd have a big ass. >_>

I think there should be speed, strength (max weapon damage) and max health bar modifiers for size of your characters appearance.

shorter than 5ft should get a +1 speed.
taller than 6ft should get a -1 speed but +1 strength (provided he's as optimal weight)

Increased upper bodyweight beyond the optimal standards adds +1 strength
Increased girth in stomach beyond the optimal adds +1 strength, -1 speed, reduced max health bar, increased max energy bar depending on the profession (only monks and warriors would gain a benefit)

Certain races like Asura and Norn need their own modifiers because inherrent height.

Ultimately people are likely going to avoid having fat characters unless it truly benefits their profession. Still though having modifiers would go a long way to enticing people to embrace different body types.

im quite happy with my characters appearance atm.

not really sure if fat people are cut for a heroes life, what with all that exercise and stuff. one would expect them to slim down.

/not signed.

All I can think of is minimum sized female monks with maximum girth. They'd be wider than they are tall, and might as well just roll around.